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 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Jan 24, 2019 23:15
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 60195-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 60195  Name: Arctic Mobile Exploration Base
* 
60195-1 (Inv) Arctic Mobile Exploration Base
761 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2018
Sets: Town: City: Arctic

* Change 4 Part Light Bluish Gray {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End without Bottom Groove}

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 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 13:19
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 801-2
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 801  Name: Extra Bricks Blue
  
801-2 (Inv) Extra Bricks Blue
62 Parts, 1986
Sets: Universal Building Set: Supplemental

* Add 12 Part 3003old Blue Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 12 Part Blue 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}

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Source: Sealed Set Contents

3001
3002old
3003old

Diana
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Dec 13, 2018 11:58
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 805-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 805  Name: Extra Bricks Gray
* 
805-1 (Inv) Extra Bricks Gray
62 Parts, 1986
Sets: Universal Building Set: Supplemental

* Add 12 Part 3003old Light Gray Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 12 Part Light Gray 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {match ID 0 to 2}

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Source: Sealed Set Contents

3001
3002old
3003old

Diana
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 Posted: Dec 5, 2018 06:05
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 809-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 809  Name: Doors and Windows
* 
809-1 (Inv) Doors and Windows
36 Parts, 1986
Sets: Universal Building Set: Supplemental

* Change 1 Part Red {73436 Door 1 x 4 x 5 Left - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Glass Color Version) to 73436c01 Door 1 x 4 x 5 Left with Trans-Clear Glass}
* Change 1 Part Red {73435 Door 1 x 4 x 5 Right - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Glass Color Version) to 73435c01 Door 1 x 4 x 5 Right with Trans-Clear Glass}

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Source: Sealed Set
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Dec 1, 2018 07:41
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 811-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 811  Name: Red Roof Bricks, Steep Pitch
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811-1 (Inv) Red Roof Bricks, Steep Pitch
59 Parts, 1986
Sets: Universal Building Set: Supplemental

* Change 2 Part Red {3044 Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - (MARKED FOR DELETION - Undetermined Underside Version) to 3044b Slope 45 2 x 1 Double - with Inside Bar}

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 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Nov 26, 2018 08:33
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6393-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6393  Name: Big-Rig Truck Stop
* 
6393-1 (Inv) Big-Rig Truck Stop
575 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic

* Delete 4 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 2 Part 4073c01 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 2 Part 4073 Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 6 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 3 Part 4073c01 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 23 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 17 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 6 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 17 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 6 Part Yellow 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

This old item on Ebay was advertized as NEW sealed.
We cannot see Yellow 4624c03 Wheel or 4073c01 Black Plate, nevertheless I submitted
them to be added. Should we get other photos showing these parts too?


I never found part 4073 in a set on a Sprue.

It appears you don't have any sealed sets of your own, but you are just copying
images from website (which actually is forbidden). Why delete part 4073 and add
these on a sprue?
My guess is that about 95% of all sets have these plates in it. Are you going
to add change requests for all sets.

I noticed there are some good changes concerning inventories, but this really
is going to far. I'm sure that I'm not the only one with this opinion?!

I do not have any particular opinion about this but the inventory admins have
decided that the parts should be presented in inventoreis AS they appears in
the sealed set. See
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1116969


"We cannot see Yellow 4624c03 Wheel or 4073c01 Black Plate, nevertheless I submitted
them to be added. "
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Nov 26, 2018 08:07
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6393-1
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In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6393  Name: Big-Rig Truck Stop
* 
6393-1 (Inv) Big-Rig Truck Stop
575 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic

* Delete 4 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 2 Part 4073c01 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 2 Part 4073 Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 6 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 3 Part 4073c01 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 23 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 17 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 6 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 17 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 6 Part Yellow 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

This old item on Ebay was advertized as NEW sealed.
We cannot see Yellow 4624c03 Wheel or 4073c01 Black Plate, nevertheless I submitted
them to be added. Should we get other photos showing these parts too?


I never found part 4073 in a set on a Sprue.

It appears you don't have any sealed sets of your own, but you are just copying
images from website (which actually is forbidden). Why delete part 4073 and add
these on a sprue?
My guess is that about 95% of all sets have these plates in it. Are you going
to add change requests for all sets.

I noticed there are some good changes concerning inventories, but this really
is going to far. I'm sure that I'm not the only one with this opinion?!

And assemblies are only to be changed to regular if they came assembled in a
set.
If not, they should be added (or kept) as a counterpart.
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 Posted: Nov 26, 2018 08:03
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 6393  Name: Big-Rig Truck Stop
* 
6393-1 (Inv) Big-Rig Truck Stop
575 Parts, 5 Minifigures, 1987
Sets: Town: Classic Town: Traffic

* Delete 4 Part 4073 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 2 Part 4073c01 Black Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 2 Part 4073 Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 1 Part 4073c01 Blue Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 6 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Add 3 Part 4073c01 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue
* Delete 23 Part 4084 Black Tire 21mm D. x 9mm Offset Tread Medium
* Delete 17 Part 4624 White Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Delete 6 Part 4624 Yellow Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm
* Change 17 Part White 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}
* Change 6 Part Yellow 4624c03 Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm with Black Tire Offset Tread Medium (4624 / 4084) {Counterpart to Regular}

This old item on Ebay was advertized as NEW sealed.
We cannot see Yellow 4624c03 Wheel or 4073c01 Black Plate, nevertheless I submitted
them to be added. Should we get other photos showing these parts too?


I never found part 4073 in a set on a Sprue.

It appears you don't have any sealed sets of your own, but you are just copying
images from website (which actually is forbidden). Why delete part 4073 and add
these on a sprue?
My guess is that about 95% of all sets have these plates in it. Are you going
to add change requests for all sets.

I noticed there are some good changes concerning inventories, but this really
is going to far. I'm sure that I'm not the only one with this opinion?!
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Nov 26, 2018 03:33
 Subject: Inventory Change Request for Set 232-1
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Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 232  Name: Bungalow
* 
232-1 (Inv) Bungalow
448 Parts, 1978
Sets: Homemaker

* Add 1 Part 3001old Black Brick 2 x 4 without Cross Supports
* Change {5 to 6} Part Red 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)
* Change {4 to 5} Part White 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)

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Source: Sealed Set Contents

There are more changes to be made, but I will need more time for that. Some time ago I added flower sprues as extra items. These were added to sets as extra more often.

Imo the other items to be added, should not Always be considered as extra items, for they could be part of an alternative build and are never added as extra by the Lego Company.

Note:
Jumpers type 3794a verified (without part-id)

Diana
 Author: TakeAbricK View Messages Posted By TakeAbricK
 Posted: Nov 25, 2018 15:35
 Subject: Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 107-1
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In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  In Inventories Requests, TakeAbricK writes:
  In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
  Please make changes to the following inventory:
 
Set No: 107  Name: 4.5V Motor Set (Universal Motor Set/Complete Motor Set)
* 
107-1 (Inv) 4.5V Motor Set (Universal Motor Set/Complete Motor Set)
25 Parts, 1976
Sets: Universal Building Set: Supplemental

* Delete 2 Part bb141c01 Blue Electric, Connector, 2 Way male Rounded Narrow Type 1 with Cross-Cut Pins (match ID 2)
* Delete 1 Part x466 White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Leads, unspecified length (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part x466c96blue White Electric, Wire 12V / 4.5V with two Blue 2-prong connectors, Hollow Pins, 96 Studs Long (match ID 2)
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 1 Part 996bc96gray White Electric, Wire 4.5V with four Light Gray 1-prong Connectors with Cross-Cut Pin, 96 Studs Long (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 4 Part Red wheel2ac01 Train Wheel Spoked (for motor), with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2A / trainrim) {Counterpart to Regular}

Hi,

I've been busy for over an hour to check this change request. Very hard,
because some changes already were approved and some not. It looked like the whole
inventory would be wrong, so many change requests

First let me explain how inventory changes were made and denied or approved back
then (and still?).
- wheel assemblies were not allowed to add to the inventory as regular, but only
as counterpart. This is the very first time I see that a change request like
this (counterpart to regular) is approved. A lot of discussions passed, saying
that in sets the trainrims came always assembled to the wheels.

This is only true for black trainrims as far as I know. It is not true for light
gray rims coming with 12v trains.

  - removing items from an inventory was forbidden, because one couldn't tell
that the submitter really had this item in a sealed set (bricklink didn't
keep history (and still doesn't?). So if your removal requests would be approved,
that also would be the first time for me to experience

My request to remove x461b from 7750 was approved. I had(and have) checked about
200 used and about 10 sealed copies.

https://www.bricklink.com/messageThread.asp?ID=235742

Side discussion: For some strange reason, I have not seen any copy of 7750 release
in 1981 or 1982 (only 1980). I have not seen any copy of 7730 in Netherlands
or Belgium. Both sets were advertised between 1980-1982 in various catalogs.
The set 7730 was released for the very first time in UK or Italy since summer
1982 (I don't know about France, but I think the same happened there) I have
seen copies of 7730 from 1980, 1981 and 1982 in Germany.

  
I didn't list the inventory of this set. And if I would have, I wouldn't
have been able to verify it. I added part 996bc96gray, because I found it in
my sealed set 107-1.


Very interesting.
There are many mistakes or incompleteness on inventories concerning wires. I
always thought TLG discountinued 1-prong connectors in very early 1970.
If you have this set as kept in its original condition,then two questions are
important:
1) was there any catalog in your Italian set? what catalog and from what year?
2) I guess your set came with this motor
 
Part No: x469b  Name: Electric, Motor 4.5V Type C 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train)
* 
x469b (Inv) Electric, Motor 4.5V Type C 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 (Train)
Parts: Electric, Motor
Could you please open the motor and check the production date written on the
motor? That would give us good information.
It would also be nice if you can take some photos and upload them here.

  Unfortunately, when verifying an inventory, it's not possible to add any
comments.
Otherwise I would have added the whole inventory of my sealed set as a comment.
Which contains the new added electric wire, black technice axles and rest like
the regular parts in the inventory.

So, imo there's no need to have any doubts about the verification of this
inventory.
For the sealed set I have (or had, for it's not sealed anymore ), contains
one of the alternates of the inventory.

I do have my doubts though about the blue connector and white wire. In all these
years I never found any proof, that sets from this period had blue connectors
of any kind.


  
Some questions for you:
- my sets has a blue seal, one of yours also have and it looks like the set is
not sealed anymore. the box is open at the back and you could easily remove the
wire and see of what type it is. the picture doesn't show the kind of connectors
- your picture of the other box shows gray connectors, which type of connector
is in your sets?
- why would you want to add part x466c96blue, as your set has gray connectors?

There are not many sealed copies of this set in the market but you can already
found two used copies of this set on Markplaats right now, coming with these
blue connectors.
If you give me more time, I may find photo of a sealed set coping with blue connectors.

  
If you want to add items, just because it's shown on a picture of the box
or in a cataglue, please don't. I think that is also the reason the inventory
submitter added the blue connector. That would be number 6 (for the lised connector
is another one). There's no way this set came with 6 different connectors.

Not only 6, I think we should add one more wire
This set was released since 1976. I know the Canadian version was in production
at least until 1984
http://www.youblisher.com/p/1030479-1984-Canada-LEGO-Catalog/

and UK 1984 catalog
https://images.brickset.com/library/Catalogues/c84uk1.pdf

This is a rough more-or-less timeline of connectors:

1971 or 1972 until 1976, BLUE
[p=bb141c01]
1977 or 1978 until end of 1979: light gray
[p=bb141c01]
1980: (light gray)
[p=bb81c01]
1981-1994
 
Part No: 766c01  Name: Electric, Connector, 2-Way Male Squared Narrow Long with Center Post
* 
766c01 (Inv) Electric, Connector, 2-Way Male Squared Narrow Long with Center Post
Parts: Electric, Wire & Connector
Also
1980-1993:
 
Part No: 765c01  Name: Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared
* 
765c01 (Inv) Electric, Connector, 1-Way Male Squared
Parts: Electric, Wire & Connector

I also made a mistake (and I meant mistkaes by myself not you ) : I got confused
between blue bb141c01 and blue bb236ac01

The connector was definitely used on this set as this set was released until
1984 and came with motor with contact hole with
 
Part No: x469bopen  Name: Electric, Motor 4.5V Type D 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 with Open Contacts (Train)
* 
x469bopen (Inv) Electric, Motor 4.5V Type D 12 x 4 x 3 1/3 with Open Contacts (Train)
Parts: Electric, Motor

  
My conclusion:
- do not remove 996bc96gray, for this is (so far) the only electric wire that
is proved to be found in a sealed set
- remove the blue connector and white wire
- move 996bc96gray from alternate to regular
- switch the axles, black to regular and white to alternate (never saw a 107-1
with white axles)

Diana

Marek, is it possible to leave this request open? I am busy now, but I can work
more on it.

The best proof is a sealed set, the worst a used set on Marktplaats.
I have a lot of boxes and a lot of parts. If I put some in a box, this doesn't
mean it was sold like this back in the seventies.

Now I opened a sealed set back in 2010 to check the contents.
Not many people will do that. And now you are asking me to open a NEW motor?
Sorry, but I won't do that.

I would appreciate it if next time you contact the submitter, before you request
to remove an item from an inventory. Luckily Marek contacted me about this request.

Diana

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