Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | jedvii  | | Posted: | Feb 7, 2022 20:27 | | Subject: | Brickstore: extra spaces on some part names | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| for some reason, Brickstore has some parts with an extra space in the name when
I download to excel. Some examples would be:
Technic, Axle 4L has 1 extra space between Axle and 4L
Wheel 8mm D. x 6mm has 1 extra space between Wheel and 8mm
Bar 4L (Lightsaber Blade / Wand) has 1 extra space after Bar
Wedge, Plate 2 x 2 Cut Corner has 1 extra space after 2 x 2
String, Cord Thin 50cm for some reason has 3 extra spaces between Thin and 50cm
this is only a few of the many instances I've come across.
Brickstock had this issue the entire time I used them. But I switched and noticed
that Brickstore did not have this issue. when looking directly at the part
pages, there's no extra spaces in the names there. Nor do I see this when
downloading the catalog from Bricklink. I did notice that the description of
the item in the "info" box does NOT have the extra space.
Anyone know what the deal with the extra spaces are?
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Sep 5, 2021 23:37 | | Subject: | Re: Ninja Edits on Axle lengths | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, jedvii writes:
| | So now Axle 3 is Axle 3L
I don't see any note on the page for 4519. Where was this information posted?
-jed
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I standardized all of them just a couple of days ago because they had length
dimensions that were undefined.
Axles are similar to hoses in that the length is what is being searched for.
I could search for any hose in the catalog by using a length dimension with the
"L" unit. I could not do the same for axles. I thus made it possible to search
for axles using the "L" unit.
Names of items in the catalog can change quickly, so I would suggest that you
do not link data to the names, but to the item numbers. Item numbers change much
less frequently.
Cheers,
Randy
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I can appreciate that items in the catalog can change quickly, but I don't
think I'm unreasonable to suggest that you can at BARE MINIMUM make a post
in the catalog section of the forum stating, "hey dudes, I ninja edited over
50 entries. They won't be in the parts change log"
Can you at least plan on making a blanket change? Maybe post in the catalog
forum, "hey guys, In a day or two, we are changing the every one Technic Axle
names." Or "hey people, on the 8th of every month we are going to make a slew
of changes." This will at least give those who it will effect some time to plan
accordingly.
| | I would suggest that you do not link data to the names
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you know what? some of us do. What's the point of having it if it's
so unreliable that you suggest we don't use it. (part numbers change too,
so having the text data helps find those changes as well) I find it frustrating
when all the sudden I have many errors in my spreadsheets. All I ask is that
you let us know when you do it. At least when you changed all "handles" to "bar
handles" they show up in the change log. (Which I still find stupid because
all handles, except a very few, are bar handles. Why not just change the non-bar
handles to something else?)
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Sep 4, 2021 09:17 | | Subject: | Re: When was the L added to Axle lengths? | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, jedvii writes:
| | So now Axle 3 is Axle 3L
I don't see any note on the page for 4519. Where was this information posted?
-jed
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It wasn’t that way August 27th (last time I downloaded the catalogue).
So it might be so recent that there isn’t any log yet 
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There is no log if an Admin edits directly the name of a part without using the
change request form.
Seems they standardized all the axles, I tried my best sometime ago.
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It's not that I mind the changes, but there should at least me some kind
of announcement when they blanket change these things. It's become very
annoying when my spreadsheets all the sudden come up with hundreds of errors.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Sep 3, 2021 12:50 | | Subject: | When was the L added to Axle lengths? | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| So now Axle 3 is Axle 3L
I don't see any note on the page for 4519. Where was this information posted?
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Aug 10, 2021 21:19 | | Subject: | Re: shouldn't 65133 be a Hinge? | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| another question,
why is
a plate, but
is a tile?
-jed
In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, jedvii writes:
| | shouldn't Part # 65133 be a hinge instead of a plate, Modified?
It has the Hinge Fingers. Most Bricks with them are in the Hinge Category.
I couldn't find any plates, bricks, or tiles with fingers that were not Hinges.
-jed
65133 Plate, Modified 4 x 6 with 2 Locking Hinge Fingers on Side, Studs on Edges
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=65133#T=P
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Yes, it should.
I have added it to the list of items that will be moved on October 1, 2021:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2509
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Aug 5, 2021 09:30 | | Subject: | Re: shouldn't 65133 be a Hinge? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | |
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| In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog Requests, jedvii writes:
| | shouldn't Part # 65133 be a hinge instead of a plate, Modified?
It has the Hinge Fingers. Most Bricks with them are in the Hinge Category.
I couldn't find any plates, bricks, or tiles with fingers that were not Hinges.
-jed
65133 Plate, Modified 4 x 6 with 2 Locking Hinge Fingers on Side, Studs on Edges
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=65133#T=P
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Yes, it should.
I have added it to the list of items that will be moved on October 1, 2021:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2509
Cheers,
Randy
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Items that are relatively new to the catalog (just a few months) can't be
moved directly?
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From now on, if a part has been in the catalog for more than a few weeks (let's
say 3-4), and it is clearly not an outright error, then it gets added to the
next batch of items to move on the six month interval. Since this item has been
in the catalog almost five months, it is way past the time to just move it outright
without giving sellers the time to be notified and informed about the change
before it is moved.
Cheers,
Randy
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I appreciate that you do it that way.
thanks for all your hard work.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Aug 4, 2021 10:56 | | Subject: | shouldn't 65133 be a Hinge? | | Viewed: | 113 times | | Topic: | Catalog Requests | | For: | Catalog Associate | | Status: | Completed | |
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| shouldn't Part # 65133 be a hinge instead of a plate, Modified?
It has the Hinge Fingers. Most Bricks with them are in the Hinge Category.
I couldn't find any plates, bricks, or tiles with fingers that were not Hinges.
-jed
65133 Plate, Modified 4 x 6 with 2 Locking Hinge Fingers on Side, Studs on Edges
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=65133#T=P
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2021 20:29 | | Subject: | Re: 6H or 6L | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| I'm surprised you aren't calling it a Bar 4L with Stud holder on end.
In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, The_RealRedHex writes:
| | Does that mean that others like this
to 4H?
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Yes, I believe so.
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It should at least by 1 x 1 x 4 - then the height would be implicit. I don't
think we have this option with the antenna in the OP since that doesn't have
a stud holder - it doesn't have a length and width, only a height.
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I would be fine with doing it that way, also.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jan 11, 2021 08:02 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 21324-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb847 Light Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 2 with Groove with Vehicle Control Panel Two Sliders Pattern (Alternate) (match ID 3)
* Change 1 Part Dark Bluish Gray 3069bpc1 Tile 1 x 2 with Groove with Vehicle Control Panel Pattern {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
adding Light Bluish Gray 3069bpb847 as an alternate piece to Dark Bluish Gray 3069pc1. I have personally seen this alternate piece in 2 sets.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Dec 6, 2020 15:12 | | Subject: | Re: 3069bpc1 in set 21324 is incorrect | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories, jedvii writes:
| | There is a 3069bpc1 in Dark Bluish Gray in the Sesame Street set #21324. I am
parting one out and I don't have a 3069bpc1 in DBG, but do have a different
1x2 tile with a similar print in LIGHT bluish Gray. I'm attaching a picture
of it here. Can someone change the set and/or verify that the 3069bpc1 in DGB
is NOT in the set? I couldn't find a part that matched the piece I have.
If it is a new piece, you can use my picture if needed.
-jed
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This is a new piece. But the old 3069bpc1 has also been found in this set. So
the new piece should be added to the inventory as an alternate.
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I tried to make an inventory change for it, but it was over my head on how to
do it. Maybe someone else will give it a go.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2020 14:56 | | Subject: | 3069bpc1 in set 21324 is incorrect | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| There is a 3069bpc1 in Dark Bluish Gray in the Sesame Street set #21324. I am
parting one out and I don't have a 3069bpc1 in DBG, but do have a different
1x2 tile with a similar print in LIGHT bluish Gray. I'm attaching a picture
of it here. Can someone change the set and/or verify that the 3069bpc1 in DGB
is NOT in the set? I couldn't find a part that matched the piece I have.
If it is a new piece, you can use my picture if needed.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Nov 10, 2020 12:58 | | Subject: | Bar Handle | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| What's the deal with adding "Bar" to all the handled entries? for example:
Plate, Modified 1 x 1 Rounded with Bar Handle
Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Handle on Side with Closed Ends
Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Bar Arm Up
There's 107 entries when you search for "Bar Handle". What's the point
of this? How many situations were there where there was a Door with handle and
people were confused if it was a stud handle or a bar handle or a thin handle.
not to mention that there are several that don't have the "bar" for example:
Dish 6 x 6 Inverted - No Studs with Handle with Wires and Red Panel Pattern
Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Handle on End - Bar Flush with Edge of Handle
Bar Holder with Handle
Minifigure, Utensil Tool Saw with Handle and Tooth
I'm all for clearing up the inventory names. I feel moving a lot of the
brick, modified with round tops to slope was smart. But adding "bar" to handle
just seems like changing things for the sake of changing things. I don't
know how many of the sellers organize things, but for me, when there's a
sweeping change I have to remake labels, move parts, and adjust spreadsheets.
Heck, it's because of all that hassle that I really hope you don't change
it back.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Oct 2, 2020 21:39 | | Subject: | Re: Overhaul the order details page | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| I voted yes for this, but wouldn't want something exactly like this, but
something more customizable in general.
In Suggestions, qwertyboy writes:
| | Our shop abandoned using the order details page about 5 years ago in favor of
a homegrown version. It would be nice if BL offered an alternative way of showing
the order items similar to this (I intentionally say "alternative way" as I am
sure there are many people who don't want to have this page changed).
Our order detail page shows each lot as a little picture of the item, with "amount
ordered" - "new/used" - "item ID" - "color" below it, and "inventory left" (see
first pic) (we also have a red border around "new" items to have them stand out
as we mainly sell used items). The page shows 10 lots in a row, and when printed,
shows 10 rows on the first page (so 100 lots on the first page), and 120 lots
on subsequent pages.
Also, with just one additional field in the "order items table" (called "status"
or something similar) you can add some serious useful functionality to the order
details page. When you pick an order with the BL order details page, you can
use the check boxes in front of the items to keep track of what you picked. Until
you (for whatever reason) refresh the page. Boom. All checks are gone. With that
additional database field, BL can keep track of the "status" of an order item.
We use 4 different statuses - "none", "picked", "packed" and "error". In the
first pic you can see the first two items shown green ("picked"), and the other
4 items white (status "none").
Using this database field makes the "colors" ("statuses") of the lots persistent
- you can break for coffee and continue where you left off, you can load the
order on a different device etc.
At the top right we have a quick view of the state of the entire order (see second
pic) - this order has a total of 44 lots, all lots except 4 have been picked,
and no errors found. If you were to add a second field to the order items table
(something like "note"), you can add notes to a lot. See third pic - here we
have a lot where there is an issue (status is "red") with an indicator at the
top-left of the item pic which corresponds to a note at the bottom of the order
details page.
We use a print of this page as our picking list in our orders - no serious deforesting
needed, and annotated lots when there is the occasional issue.
Just some thoughts in case BL wants to revamp the order details page. I am available
if BL needs some technical assistance.
(We don't use the "remarks" field for order picking as we have our inventory
stored by category, but it is easy to change what is shown below each lot picture.
Also, our version packs some more functionality, like if you click on the picture,
you get a popup with the an overview of that item in all colors with amount sold,
amount in inventory, links to inventory history, appearance in sets etc - there
is so much functionality that can be added to the order details page.)
If anyone has any questions or need more pics, feel free to shoot me a message
(and no, this "product" is not easily portable, so we can't supply it to
other shops right now).
Niek.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 27, 2020 16:44 | | Subject: | Re: when did plates with clips get name changed | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| thanks for the reply. I sincerely didn't mean to imply incompetence. I
appreciate the overall change log and all your hard work!
-jed
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, jedvii writes:
| | I'm hoping that when you rename things you will take in to account sorting
alphabetically by part name.
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I absolutely do take that into account.
Here's the problem: standardizing the catalog would result in changes. The
site believes that changes frighten people. Therefore, changes are sometimes
met with resistance. Some changes that have been made were reversed by the site.
| | it clearly wasn't considered with this change.
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It was considered. An appearance of incompetence on our part doesn't equate
to actual incompetence. Other factors are involved.
| | I won't even get in to why bricks and plate are 1x4 (smaller number first)
but slopes and wedges are 4x1 (larger number first).
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Because BrickLink dimensions don't always make sense. The catalog team does
not have the liberty to correct these kinds of problems at this point in time.
| | thanks for all your hard work. I'm sure it's not easy when people gripe
at every turn.
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I don't consider discussion to be griping. Feedback is important and an
ongoing conversation between members and the catalog team is greatly welcomed,
even if we can't always agree on everything.
Keep in mind, though, that every public expression of discontent reinforces the
site's belief that members abhor change. Contacting us privately with dissatisfactions
is preferred. We will respond.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 27, 2020 14:17 | | Subject: | Re: when did plates with clips get name changed | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Is sorting by category not good enough? I'm doing OK with sorting by category
and within Pate,Modified arranging things by dimensions. I don't really need
the item name, so I wonder if you really do?
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For plate, modified with clips and handles are the two main things I have sorted
in sub-sections. I guess, I also have slope, curved sorted by the 2nd dimension
(like ? x 1 and ? x 2+).
I'm an adapter, so when the changes come in, it's really not that big
of a deal for me to adjust. I'm fully aware that I'm not the only one
who uses this site and would hate to make 90% of the users change for me.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 27, 2020 07:47 | | Subject: | Re: when did plates with clips get name changed | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| thanks for the info. I appreciate the special page listing all the changes.
I'm hoping that when you rename things you will take in to account sorting
alphabetically by part name. For example, It's plate, modified and not modified
plate so that your regular plates are with your modified plates instead of "modified
plate" where your modified plates would be with your "modified bricks".
It's not necessary as much with things that have their own categories, but
Modified plates that have clips are kind of their own category. For example
you've went with the nomenclature of Plate, Modified with OPEN O clip with
Horizontal Grip instead of Plate Modified with clip (open O) with Horizontal
Grip.
I am not trying to get things changed again, I just hoping that in the future
some of this is considered before making large scale changes as it clearly wasn't
considered with this change.
I won't even get in to why bricks and plate are 1x4 (smaller number first)
but slopes and wedges are 4x1 (larger number first).
thanks for all your hard work. I'm sure it's not easy when people gripe
at every turn.
-jed
In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, jedvii writes:
June 1st, 2020.
| | I see that the change logs are updated sometimes with Name changes and other
times not.
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Changes to item titles are only logged when we go through the change request
form. To learn more about logged and unlogged changes, see this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=519
| | hopefully they will be more consistent with it when they update things
in a week or two.
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All changes in item type and category are always logged. And to answer this
question you posted in another thread:
| | Are you planning on posting a list of the changes?
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Yes. Not only will they be logged in change logs, but a separate dedicated page
has been created as a quick reference guide:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2487
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 26, 2020 20:46 | | Subject: | Re: when did plates with clips get name changed | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| thanks, I hadn't seen that.
-jed
In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | In Catalog, jedvii writes:
| | I just noticed that some of the plates with clips got name changes two examples
are:
61252 https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=61252#T=P went
from
Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Horizontal (thick open O clip)
to
Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip (Horizontal Grip)
and 11476 https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=11476#T=P went
from
Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Clip Horizontal on Side
to
Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Clip on Side (Horizontal Grip)
When did this happen? I clicked on the change logs to the parts and they didn't
mention the name change. Is there a place to see what items get their name changed?
-jed
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There's some get-it-done type individuals working on the catalog, now. I
don't know if this has to do with your question: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200979
...if not, just plug it into the forum search. They are all fairly active on
the forum.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 26, 2020 20:45 | | Subject: | Re: Make A List | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | Two months from now, on August 1st, we'd like to (which doesn't mean
for a certainty that we will) simultaneously launch a couple of projects from
the roadmap as follows:
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This is coming up. As of right now, still looks like it will happen.
Prepare.
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Are you planning on posting a list of the changes?
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 26, 2020 20:45 | | Subject: | Re: when did plates with clips get name changed | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, jedvii writes:
| | I just noticed that some of the plates with clips got name changes two examples
are:
[…]
When did this happen?
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First, all the clips were “harmonized” together (capitals, order, names).
It happened between March 7th 2020 and May 20th 2020 (I haven’t downloaded the
catalogue in between these dates).
E.g., for 61252, “with Clip Horizontal (thick open O clip)” became “with Open
O Clip Horizontal Thick.”
Then, the “Clip Horizontal|Vertical” was changed to “(Horizontal|Vertical Grip)”
around the 5th of June, during this discussion: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1200992
You’ll note there have been absolutely no message by the admins that the discussion
spurred the change.
At the beginning of the discussion, there was no “grip,” then it appeared.
| | I clicked on the change logs to the parts and they didn't
mention the name change. Is there a place to see what items get their name changed?
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Yep, the logs are useless for that.
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I see that the change logs are updated sometimes with Name changes and other
times not. hopefully they will be more consistent with it when they update things
in a week or two.
btw, that was weird in that thread you posted about the guy flipping out on your
example of a loaded question (and the wife beating thing)
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 26, 2020 19:29 | | Subject: | when did plates with clips get name changed | | Viewed: | 166 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I just noticed that some of the plates with clips got name changes two examples
are:
61252 https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=61252#T=P went
from
Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Horizontal (thick open O clip)
to
Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Open O Clip (Horizontal Grip)
and 11476 https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=11476#T=P went
from
Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Clip Horizontal on Side
to
Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with Clip on Side (Horizontal Grip)
When did this happen? I clicked on the change logs to the parts and they didn't
mention the name change. Is there a place to see what items get their name changed?
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Oct 17, 2019 10:24 | | Subject: | Re: different versions of 70418stk01 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, randyf writes:
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They are considered the same (for now) if they have the same Design ID/Element
ID numbers (the numbers near the copyright). You can list it as 70418stk01 with
no issues.
Cheers,
Randy
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thanks!
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Oct 17, 2019 09:28 | | Subject: | different versions of 70418stk01 | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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| I'm parting out set 70418, and I have the sticker 70418stk01. it appears
to be the same at the one shown except the one shown has 128984 in the corner.
Mine has 134071A in the corner. I looked at other stickers that had alternate
items for the north american sticker and the international sticker, and they
had different numbers by the copyright. (see 75106stk01a and 75106stk01b).
My question is do I have a "different" sticker than 704189stk01? According to
the naming conventions with the (60466/6273230) they would be the same. I'm
willing to upload a picture and submit a change report, but wanted to make sure
it needed to be done. If someone buys my sticker with the 134071A in the upper
corner are they going to be disappointed it doesn't have the 128984 in the
corner (though I sell so very few stickers).
thanks,
jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Aug 17, 2017 09:43 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70810-1 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 13 Part 553c Dark Bluish Gray Brick, Round 2 x 2 Dome Top - Hollow Stud with Bottom Axle Holder x Shape + Orientation (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 13 Part Dark Bluish Gray 553b Brick, Round 2 x 2 Dome Top - Blocked Open Stud with Bottom Axle Holder x Shape + Orientation {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
I think I've done this right. the set has listed 13 of 533b in Dark Bluish Gray.
My personal set has 13 of 533c in Dark Bluish Gray.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Sep 2, 2016 22:07 | | Subject: | Re: Please add an Echeck Pending order status | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Biglesdug writes:
| | I voted yes. I always let a buyer know if they payed with an echeck and that
it will take a few days to clear to avoid confusion.
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It would also be nice if there was a form email that you could just click on
when status was set to "eCheck". Similar to button to send an invoice or drive
through.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 22, 2016 02:41 | | Subject: | Re: standard deviation on price indices | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, bljesprop writes:
| | In Suggestions, FigBits writes:
| | In Suggestions, brick_projects writes:
| | Please implement standard deviation.
By eliminating the (small number)% cheapest and (small number) % most expensively
priced lots, the average price index would be "more statistically significant"
in scientific terms ( less error margin ).
This is only necessary for items that have at least e.g. 10 distinct lots for
sale.
Why this suggestion ?
Yesterday i noticed one particular seller set all his prices at ( BL avg x 10000
). This caused average price index "lots for sale" to be inflated at least
tenfold.
Someone else suggested he made a mistake in currency.
If this one shopkeeper persists, unwanted "extreme" inflation may occur on several
very common items, and those lots - for sellers not paying attention when adding
to their inventory - might become impossible to sell.
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Voted no.
I do not want BL to remove any data. If you want to suggest *adding* information,
I would be fine with that. (Such as adding the median price.)
To any seller who blindly uses the current For Sale Average to set their prices,
I would have a simple suggestion: Don't.
So, for the suggestion: No. Please do not remove information which is useful
to many of us, just because a few sellers might be using that information in
a silly way (that only hurts themselves).
--
Marc.
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Back when I took stats, trimming extreme outliers was considered a desirable
practice. This would be particularly true if the outlier was not so much a black
swan as a data recording error or false reporting. Does anyone know if this
advice has changed?
In any case, the notion of "removing" data does not seem to fully apply here.
No one is suggesting it be removed from the price guide. Someone interested
in reviewing every data point is free to look at them where they are reported
in the price guide.
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The information that is being suggested to be removed is the mathematical mean.
I don't want that removed. If people want to have additional information
added, such as a trimmed mean, that's fine. But not as a replacement
of what we have now.
| | Frankly, the only reason I can think of for not making this change is that some
sellers will make fewer and smaller mistakes. That will prevent the rest of
us from enjoying the arbitrage.
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Not all prices have normal distribution. Sometimes the outliers are significant.
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogPG.asp?P=62360&colorID=11
For the last several months, the trimmed mean for this part would have shown
around $1. The actual mean (which is what currently gets displayed) was $2. If
I had some last month, I probably would have listed them at $15, which would
likely have been the highest listing at the time. And they probably would have
sold by now.
Now, in that case, the mean isn't a particularly good representation either.
But it's a better number for a seller wondering what price they should ask,
than the trimmed mean.
--
Marc.
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holy cow, what caused the sudden rise in the price of that part?
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 16, 2016 21:16 | | Subject: | Re: Do away with Lego | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, jedvii writes:
| | I think it would be great if they had a way to denote if a store is a top rated
seller (to steal eBay's terminology). Develop good metrics on it, not that
crap they have for being a featured seller. Does a buyer give a rat if a store
as a logo, or 4 featured items in their store? NO. Buy I guarantee a buyer
cares if a store takes a week to send out an order, or doesn't reply to messages,
has an obscene S&H fee, ships smokey lego, or doesn't know how to count.
(I'm looking at you QCBricks)
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What is that supposed to mean? We never took a week to ship, always replied
to messages, never had obscene S&H, never even had a staff member that was around
smoke let alone who was a smoker, and we knew how to count.
I also think we have only ordered from you, I'm not aware we ever sent you
an order.
Clarification?
Scott
| | Our current feedback doesn't address
that. How many people have a negative experience, and then don't leave ANY
feedback. That's not good. Future buyers then don't know about it.
if Bricklink came up with a decent criteria and a way to actually track it,
that could help buyers know who to buy from.
I got off track on this post, and have to get back to work, but I think the overall
message is still there.
-jed
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just referring to the message you posted about how you it really shouldn't
be too much to expect parts come smoke free and accurately counted.
you have ordered from me. I definitely appreciate your business.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 16, 2016 21:14 | | Subject: | Re: Do away with feedback | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, jedvii writes:
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I don't think it's a good idea to get rid of feedback of buyers. It
adds even a small amount of accountability to buyers. One thing I feel BL needs
to do is have all communications done on site. That way if there is a problem,
they can at least look through the messages to get a better idea of the problem.
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Why do buyers need "accountability" beyond paying for their orders? When you
walk into your local supermarket, what sort of accountability are they demanding
of you beyond what the local law allows (or disallows)?
I really just don't get this notion at all. Beyond issues surrounding payment
what is there? Take payment (paid, didn't pay, charged back, etc) out of
it and to me, every argument comes down to "I want to make the buyer suffer consequences
just because..." Things like "Buyer claimed parts were missing, but I know I
sent them" or "buyer claims Used sent as New" or "buyer was rude/mean/angry"
or whatever else really are rare enough that I don't see that is a reason
to hold on to the current system.
Scott
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fraudulent buyers, buyers who frequently make orders and then never pay, buyers
who are constantly "not getting all their items", buyers who's entire package
doesn't get "delivered", buyers who take weeks to pay. Look, i'm not
saying all, most, or even more than 10% buyers are this way. I'm just saying
that FB shouldn't be removed for buyers. Ebay still does feedback for buyers
and there's not point in it. If anything it's helpful to remind buyers
to leave feedback for sellers.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2016 18:42 | | Subject: | Re: Do away with feedback | | Viewed: | 110 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, QCBricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, cosmicray writes:
| | … as it is known today.
The feedback system goes back to the earliest days of BL. It was probably copied
from eBay, who copied it from somewhere else.
It only provides 3 stark choices. That is insufficient in many cases.
Replace it with a numerical number, either 100 to 0, or possibly 50 to 0 to -50.
Something that allows for a more nuanced scoring of the transaction (without
going nuclear).
I hope this provokes people to think about the current system, whether it is
serving our needs, and what improvements can be applied.
Ray
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While I would like to see huge changes to the FB system, I voted No.
Here's the problem with those types of systems. (Really any type of FB system)
The ratings will just mean different things to different people.
For example, in a basic Likert-type 1-5 rating system there can be confusion
because some people think that 5 means "good" or "satisfactory" while others
may think that 3 means the same because Likert usually uses the 3 rating for
things like "satisfied" while using 4 or 5 for things like "very satisfied" or
"extremely satisfied".
Adding in 95 more potential ratings is just asking for trouble. What you will
likely see is something like what happens on eBay, which is the great majority
of buyers give 5s on DSRs and the few people who do anything different are not
enough to make much difference. Nearly every seller has DSRs in the 4.8, 4.9.
or 5.0 range. The system causes the ratings to coalesce around those scores.
The outliers just end up being slightly outside that range. Despite the 1.0-5.0
range, the really, really bad ones end up being at something like 4.2 and not
at 1.5 or something similar.
Anyone who has taught extensively or worked with rubric calculation likely understands
that this is a natural part of the assessment process. It is often incredibly
challenging and time consuming to develop assessment methods that are not subject
to such score grouping. and those tools are much, much more in depth than a feedback
rating.
At least with the 3 factor feedback system, "positive", "negative" and "neutral"
are pretty descriptive. (The first two more so)
The better solution would be to eliminate feedback on buyers and free them to
leave open and honest feedback for sellers, along with some expanded feedback
removal rules that would be available to sellers. (For example, being allowed
to show proof of the shipping date if a buyer leaves a "did not ship for two
weeks" negative or removing bad feedback left 10 minutes after an order that
has not yet had any interaction between buyer and seller)
This would allow sellers to spend more time selling instead of leaving rote feedback
that serves no purpose and it would allow buyers to leave honest feedback. In
addition, it would stop the potential for turning away buyers who either feel
they were retaliated against or fear that their concerns cannot be heard.
It has been well established that the threat of retaliatory feedback for buyers
is huge. When this came up a few months ago, Figbits, myself, and several others
looked through quite a bit of buyer feedback to only find that the retaliatory
feedback rate against buyers can easily approach 30% or more...almost across
the board.
Focus on making the system more robust, honest, and meaningful, but also focus
on making it less complicated rather than more complicated.
Scott
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I don't think it's a good idea to get rid of feedback of buyers. It
adds even a small amount of accountability to buyers. One thing I feel BL needs
to do is have all communications done on site. That way if there is a problem,
they can at least look through the messages to get a better idea of the problem.
I also think they need to get tracking on the site. The seller can upload the
tracking number and then BL can determine if it was actually taken to the post
office and delivered. Granted the tracking isn't perfect, but it would help
with resolutions.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2016 18:33 | | Subject: | Re: Do away with Lego | | Viewed: | 140 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ToriHada writes:
| | In Suggestions, jedvii writes:
| | In Suggestions, ToriHada writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Hmmm, in a world where everything seems to change every 30 secs it is kind of
nice to have some things that remain familiar.
I would personally like to
keep some of the old BL and changing FB after 16 years seems like making everyone
newbies again.
A simple extension of the field lengths might give a lot of bang for the buck.
Robert
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+1. As a buyer, 99% of the time I have absolutely no problem relying on the
BL system to help me evaluate risk and determine where to shop. Feedback is
very helpful to me not only as a buyer, but when I was a seller as well. Despite
the vocal tiny minority who complain, BL's feedback is fine and needs no
fundamental changing. It isn't broke, so it needs no fixing.
Robert makes an excellent point about changing a system that has been used for
16 years and how any such change could negatively and unfairly affect the tens
of thousands of BL members who have already earned more than a few feedback.
But I do like the idea of extending the comments fields, mainly for non-positive
feedback.
Thor
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Might be helpful if there was a 5 start rating on Certain aspects like shipping,
separation of variants, accuracy of part count, etc.
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So instead of one subjective 3-star system we should have three subjective 5-star
systems? And how do you propose to convert all the feedback previously earned
by members into this new system? For example, how would you convert my current
8,882 feedback score under this new system? After 13+ years on BrickLink, do
I start out again as a newbie?
Thor
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I think the current feedback system should remain in place. There's too
much history in it both positive and negative. For a good seller/buyer like
yourself, that big number means something. And for those with significant negative
feedback, it shouldn't be removed.
What I was thinking was something more like eBay's secondary ratings. When
you buy from someone there, you can leave a general +/0/- feedback, but they
also ask you to rate other things by a 5 star method. Honestly, I don't
know exactly how it works. As a seller, I can see my overall scores. At one
point, they would take away top rated seller status if those numbers dipped too
low. I think they've decided to do away with that, but don't quote me
on it. All my numbers have been good enough, that I don't concern myself
with it. On the buyer's side, I've never looked at it. I don't
even know if it's prominently displayed, or where I'd look to find it.
But ultimately the feedback system is for the buyers. It's for the buyers
to have an understanding of the risk of buying from a seller. I kind of think
in that regard, the current system isn't the greatest. How many times are
we seeing people complain about a seller. Be it terrible accuracy in their count
or part ID, taking forever to send out a package, or never responding to emails.
As a seller, it really bothers me when I see people make these complaints on
reddit. Sure they might be people that never buy from me, but they are still
potential customers. AND there's plenty of people over there that might
consider using BL, but see the complaints and think it might not be for them.
There are countless things that Bricklink could do to help protect the buyers.
First off, any communication done about a problematic bricklink order should
be done in Bricklink. I should not be able to click "email userBOB" and it opens
up my email client. Bricklink admins should be able to read all communications
to be able to decide who is in the right. Also, it would be able to identify
when a buyer messages a selelr, and the seller never responds. They could somehow
add shipping tracking to their metrics. That way they can identify when packages
are sent out and delivered, not just when a tracking number is uploaded.
I think it would be great if they had a way to denote if a store is a top rated
seller (to steal eBay's terminology). Develop good metrics on it, not that
crap they have for being a featured seller. Does a buyer give a rat if a store
as a logo, or 4 featured items in their store? NO. Buy I guarantee a buyer
cares if a store takes a week to send out an order, or doesn't reply to messages,
has an obscene S&H fee, ships smokey lego, or doesn't know how to count.
(I'm looking at you QCBricks) Our current feedback doesn't address
that. How many people have a negative experience, and then don't leave ANY
feedback. That's not good. Future buyers then don't know about it.
if Bricklink came up with a decent criteria and a way to actually track it,
that could help buyers know who to buy from.
I got off track on this post, and have to get back to work, but I think the overall
message is still there.
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 15, 2016 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Do away with Lego | | Viewed: | 170 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ToriHada writes:
| | In Suggestions, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | Hmmm, in a world where everything seems to change every 30 secs it is kind of
nice to have some things that remain familiar.
I would personally like to
keep some of the old BL and changing FB after 16 years seems like making everyone
newbies again.
A simple extension of the field lengths might give a lot of bang for the buck.
Robert
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+1. As a buyer, 99% of the time I have absolutely no problem relying on the
BL system to help me evaluate risk and determine where to shop. Feedback is
very helpful to me not only as a buyer, but when I was a seller as well. Despite
the vocal tiny minority who complain, BL's feedback is fine and needs no
fundamental changing. It isn't broke, so it needs no fixing.
Robert makes an excellent point about changing a system that has been used for
16 years and how any such change could negatively and unfairly affect the tens
of thousands of BL members who have already earned more than a few feedback.
But I do like the idea of extending the comments fields, mainly for non-positive
feedback.
Thor
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Might be helpful if there was a 5 start rating on Certain aspects like shipping,
separation of variants, accuracy of part count, etc
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jul 13, 2016 11:15 | | Subject: | Re: GO BACK TO OLD PREFERED STORES PLEASE!!!!! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Hunny1 writes:
| | In Suggestions, Buddy03 writes:
| | Since the BL 2.0 update came out multiple stores have experienced a decrease
in sales and I believe that the "PREFERED SELLER " thing at the bottom of the
home screen is redirecting everybody to just 4 stores! I have only seen one store
change since the update.... For real bricklink you need to get it together, everyone
has been saying this since BL 2.0 came out.... Please go back.
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Well, since BL 2.0 I sell much less than before.
Regardless that prices are average or less!
And inventory is not less.
During summer time that happend years ago, too.
But not so intense.
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Since the change, I've made 1 sale. Now I don't have a large store,
but I've never gone a month and a half with only 1 sale. Even when my store
was 1/5 it's current size.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Sep 9, 2015 17:24 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 21107-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| I did too.
Go Big Red.
In Inventories Requests, chetzler writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3070b Dark Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
have parted out numerous copies of this set and all had this as an extra
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | May 5, 2015 11:38 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 76030-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 6019 Tan Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Horizontal (thick open U clip) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Tan 61252 Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Horizontal (thick open O clip) {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
found a thick U clip in one of the sets I opened. I hope I did this right,
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2015 01:21 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70815-1 | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 64644 Light Bluish Gray Minifig, Utensil Telescope (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
I did not have this extra part in two parted out sets. I don't know if it needs to be deleted or marked special somehow.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2015 00:18 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70815-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3794b Dark Bluish Gray Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud with Groove (Jumper) (Alternate) (match ID 3)
Comments from Submitter:
just opened 2 of these and both ahd 3794b instead of 3794 in the dark bluish gray.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 14, 2015 00:17 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 70815-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Dark Bluish Gray 3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) {match ID 0 to 3}
Comments from Submitter:
changing to add the match id. (I think)
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2015 00:41 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7047-1 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, viejos writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, jedvii writes:
You'll need to add the stickered part to the catalog before we can add it
to the inventory. You may choose to base your entry off of one of these similarly
stickered engines:
http://www.bricklink.com/catalogList.asp?q=4868b*
The main thing is to get a nice photo so the CA's can see if the sticker
is correctly placed, etc. Hope this helps. 
Russell
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Thanks, I have one, but have no idea if the sticker is placed correctly or not.
I'm guessing that's why a lot of counterparts aren't listed? I
noticed 75038 doesn't have the counterparts either. I found one in a bulk
buy and want to sell it, but as it's not listed, I'm unsure of how to
put it in my store. I don't have enough confidence to be changing the catalog.
I was hoping that me putting in this request, someone else could do it correctly.
I suppose I should start learning this stuff. If I add the part to the catalog,
can it be done without a picture?
-jed
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2015 17:32 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7047-1 | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4868b Yellow Engine, Smooth Large, 2 x 2 Thin Top Plate (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
I'm pretty sure I suck at this. I do know that according to the instructions, http://letsbuilditagain.com/instructions/7047/ on page 14, the yellow 4868b should have a sticker, one on the left and 1 on the right. you can see what this looks like on http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=dybisworld&itemID=38116170 maybe someone better at this can get this done.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jan 23, 2015 21:39 | | Subject: | better searching | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Discarded | |
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| I feel that if I search for "curved 1x4" or "curved 1 x 4" then 6191 Brick, Modified
1 x 4 x 1 1/3 No Studs, Curved Top should show up in the search results. it
does if you search "curved 1 x 4 x 1".
Also, if I search for 3747, I should be able to see 3747a and 3747b. instead
I get the set 3747-1 Locomotive Gray Bricks. This is maddening when I see a
part number under a piece and type it in only to discover that there's an
a or b.
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jan 12, 2015 21:33 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 4895-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Red {4460 Slope 75 2 x 1 x 3 - Undetermined Stud Type to 4460a Slope 75 2 x 1 x 3 - Completely Open Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
Looking through my parts and I had 4460a
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| Author: | jedvii | | Posted: | Jan 5, 2015 22:32 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6088-1 | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {3708 Technic, Axle 12 to 3737 Technic, Axle 10}
Comments from Submitter:
I was going through my 6088 Robber's Retreat set, and noticed y'all have
Black Technic, Axle 12
but my set has
Black Technic, Axle 10
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