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 Author: Beacharoni View Messages Posted By Beacharoni
 Posted: Aug 8, 2012 12:39
 Subject: Re: Button Solution (Requirements by German Law)
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Beacharoni (30)

Location:  USA, Hawaii
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Store: Beacharoni Bricks
This "button solution" was originally aimed at gamer sites, and others who rope
unsuspecting on-line consumers into long-term subscriptions without them knowing
it. It was never intended to be applied to sites like Bricklink. Still, a one-size-fits-all
typical bureaucratic approach always takes unintended victims along with it.
That's where Bricklink comes in, as well as thousands of other on-line e-commerce
sites. The law is in effect in Germany and is likely to be enacted throughout
the EU in a year or so. That is, unless there are major changes in the structure
of the EU. The biggest problem has arisen from the guy at the end of the table
who finally raised his hand, just before everyone in the Bundestag was ready
to vote on this over-reaching law, and said, "hey, why don't we throw in shipping
and handling as well". That is the killer, because it requires foretelling the
future, always a tough charge no matter how well-written the law (and this one
is anything but and is filled with nothing but grey area from start to finish).


In Suggestions, franz76906 writes:
  Hi everybody,
as mentioned in this message http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=656715
admin is working on a solution to fulfill the requirements of a new German law
- called in short "Button Solution".
As I'm coordinating these requirements and their implementation on behalf of
the German sellers, I'll try to explain this feature within this thread.

(I'm posting this under 'suggestions', but in fact these things are not really
to be discussed if and how they are to be implemented as they are defined by
law! I just want to explain these requirements and the approach we (the German
sellers) have developed right now to solve these requirements as good as possible.
Nethertheless -especially when looking to the point "pre-calculated shipping
costs"- everybody is invited to develop this further...)

At the beginning:
These requirements are GERMAN law. We intend to implememt these changes at first
for orders between German professional sellers (about 60) and German buyers ONLY.
All other users and orders should not be affected!
WHY: one requirement is to have GERMAN texts -which should not be helpful for
others )

Timeframe:
There is no schedule of steps and dates of implementation yet.

THE REQUIREMENTS:
The main requirements of this new law are
1) BUTTON:
AT THE VERY END of the ordering process there must be a button (like our existing
'Complete Purchase' with one of 6 pre-defined GERMAN TEXTs. We have decided to
name this button 'Kostenpflichtig bestellen'.
2) SUMMARY OF ORDERED ITEMS:
DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THIS BUTTON the buyer must see "all ordered items with their
prices per item and their essential attributes".
Regarding the fact that some orders consist of hundreds of different lots we
suggested to show a summary by item type (in German!) like
nnn (lots) of different instructions ...total mmm pieces (items) ....NNN,NN Eur
dto. for sets, parts, minifigs etc
3) SHIPPING COSTS:
Additionally to the above mentioned summary the seller must SHOW the SHIPPING
COSTS BEFORE CHECKOUT!
This is the main issue seeing the existing BL system, but fortunately we need
this at first only for domestic orders and the German Post tariffs system isn't
that complicated; so we intend to implement a table for each seller where he
can enter his shipping costs depending on weight and order value.
These tables may be implemented for all sellers -may be for domestic orders only-,
but let's first get some experience within this new feature for Germans.
(I'll add a detailed explanation and example of this table later - based on the
actual domestic shipping costs of our shop.)

I hope these explanations help a bit to understand what is going on when talking
about "Button Solution".

Kind regards
Thomas (Co-owner of Munich-Bricks)