Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | paulvdb  | | Posted: | Oct 1, 2019 09:15 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6410-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part BA87pb01 White Stickered Assembly 2 x 2 x 2 with Butterfly and Two Flowers Pattern (Sticker) - Set 6410 - 1 Brick 1 x 2, 1 Brick 2 x 2 (Counterpart)
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Oct 1, 2019 00:56 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7498-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3010pb103 White Brick 1 x 4 with White 'POLICE' Bold Font on Blue Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7743 (Counterpart)
* Change 1 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
* Change 1 Part Dark Bluish Gray {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
* Change 12 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
* Change 1 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked in set in my personal collection that was built from sealed set contents and never mixed with parts from other sets.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Oct 1, 2019 00:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7498-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, AvD11T writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, AvD11T writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3010pb152 White Brick 1 x 4 with White 'POLICE' Short Font on Blue Background Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Please add counterpart 1x, part 3010pb152, brick 1x4 with ‘police’ sticker.
See booklet 2, instruction 27, there is the sticker added to the part.
Thx.
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Looks like this is not the correct sticker for this set. The font on the sticker
in this set is bigger than on
Looks like the correct stickered part should be
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i choose nr 152 because it is the same sticker and year it came out (2011) like
this part in white
* | | 30413pb013 Panel 1 x 4 x 1 with White 'POLICE' Bold Narrow Font Large on Blue Background Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 3648 / 3661 / 7498 / 7744
Parts: Panel, Decorated |
this comes from same set 7498.
part 103 is much older, from 2008.
Am i incorrect in this?
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It looks like Lego used different fonts for stickers from the 2011 sets. As you
can see in the image 3010pb152 has a smaller font with more empty blue space
above and below the letters. In set 7498 there is a bigger font with less empty
blue space above and below the letters just like in set 7743. See my attached
image of the stickered 1x4 bricks from the 7498 and 7743 side by side. So in
this set 3010pb103 would be the correct stickered counterpart.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 09:49 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7498-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, AvD11T writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3010pb152 White Brick 1 x 4 with White 'POLICE' Short Font on Blue Background Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Please add counterpart 1x, part 3010pb152, brick 1x4 with ‘police’ sticker.
See booklet 2, instruction 27, there is the sticker added to the part.
Thx.
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Looks like this is not the correct sticker for this set. The font on the sticker
in this set is bigger than on
Looks like the correct stickered part should be
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 30, 2019 09:33 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7286-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part White {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked set in my personal collection that was never mixed with parts from other sets.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 23:55 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 8425-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, uvt203 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 36 Part 4265a Light Gray Technic Bush 1/2 Toothed Type I
* Add 36 Part 4265b Light Gray Technic Bush 1/2 Toothed Type II
Comments from Submitter:
From my own set which I had from new.
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Set was originally inventoried from instructions so we don't have evidence
that 4265a was ever in this set. It can always be added again if evidence is
found for its inclusion in this set but based on the part's timeline it's
likely that only 4265b was ever included in this set.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 08:31 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 4549-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 2972a Light Gray Train Base 6 x 34 Split-Level with Bottom Tubes and Three Holes at Each End (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Light Gray 2972 Train Base 6 x 34 Split-Level with Bottom Tubes {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
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The first variant has three hols on each end as it shows on the instructions.
It was used in starting 1993 for this set and 4547-1. In later productions, the
later variant with one hole on each end was produced coming with this set too.
See
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lego-system-4549-container-double-412853958
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The set you linked to shows proof for the one-hole version, but I do not feel
comfortable to add the three-hole version just based on the instructions.
At this time,
* | | 2972 Train Base 6 x 34 Split-Level with Bottom Tubes (Undetermined Type)
Parts: Train
Marked for Deletion |
is basically a catch-all entry since it can include both versions of the part
as the catalog note states. Therefore, the inventory is technically not incorrect
until the one-hole version gets its own catalog entry and this part gets marked
for deletion.
Any additional thoughts on this, Paul?
Randy
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Hi Randy,
In my opinion, there is no doubt the three-hole was the first version and it
was used for both sets 4547 and 4549. The set 4549 was available in US only as
"shop at home" as far as I see in the catalogs which is why it is rare there.
If you check in some European markets, most copies come with 3-hole versions.
Let me share my thoughts on this one.
This piece is rare, appeared only in early releases of there two sets. If not,
then we should assume that TLG produced both versions since very early 1993,
used the one-hole version for 4547-1 (against the instructions) and the three-hole
version for 4549-1 and later, they used the one-hole version for 4547-1 too.
Then as most used copies of 4549-1 in Europe come with 3-hole versions, we should
also assume that their owners replaced the original 1-hole one with the 3-hole
version. 
Here are two used copies. I also bought one copy from Germany coming with 3-hole
variant
https://picclick.de/Lego-System-4549-Container-Double-Stack-Road-%C2%B4n%C2%B4-Rail-153552552889.html
https://picclick.de/LEGO-Containertransportwagen-Container-Double-Stack-Set-Nr-4549-183867635295.html
It is possible to find an opened new copy of 4549-1 coming with 3-hole version,
sometime in the future but then, how can we be sure that this piece would be
original to the set as it does not come in a sealed bag?
I have ordered a light tent but I am not sure I have the one-hole version. I
need to check my second copy of 4549-1. But I can add it to the catalog and then,
you can decide on how to proceed with the inventory of this set.
Reza
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I have just submitted 2972b to the catalog for the one hole variant so that we
can get rid of the undetermined 2972 in inventories. Based on your findings it
seems unlikely that several sellers of used sets would have somehow found a rare
2972a to include in their used sets, so I believe that it came in early production
runs of 4549. The fact that instructions and box art also show 2972a supports
the theory that 2972a was the first version and since both this and 4547 were
released in the same year it would have come in early productions runs of both
sets while 2972b would have come in later production runs of both sets.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 29, 2019 03:40 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6180-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 4864a Yellow Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Solid Studs (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black {2609 Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 (Undetermined Type) to 2609b Magnet Holder Tile 2 x 2 - Tall Arms with Deep Notch}
* Change 2 Part Yellow 4864b Panel 1 x 2 x 2 - Hollow Studs {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: sealed set contents.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 28, 2019 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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Reza -
What about the clip lights? I see the thick-ring versions in the photos here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=558274
The other Inventory Admin, Paul, is also the one who added the alternates to
the inventory back in 2011.
Did this set ever come with the thin-ring versions?
Cheers,
Randy
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Randy,
For keeping early variant or removing them, there is no good solution but I have
my own philosophy
We know the later variations of clips and hinges came in early 1985. I have checked
light gray hinges since long time ago and I am convinced that we should remove
them for this set. Well, if one day somebody gives an evidence, we can add them
back but I don't think this would happen.
I didn't request to remove thin-clips for this set (from 1986) because I
have not checked enough number of used/new copies in the American market. I don't
know if those copies of 7823 sold in USA were imported directly from Denmark
or were produced in USA. This is a complicated case. My doubts raised as I have
seen few neat copies of American 6393 (with American box in the market of USA)
coming with thin clips in most colors (there come with 6393 in four colors) As
I have seen few used copies of 6393 coming with rare thin clips, I believe they
were still available in 1987. Admin Russel removed thin-clips from 6393 in Nov.
2018
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=6393-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
Once I have some more data, I come back to 6393. Unfortunately, I don't think
we find any new 6393, let alone an early release!
Now, coming back to 7823, I think it is better I check some more used/new copies
in the market of USA before requesting to remove them. I will come back to this
in few months.
Cheers,
Reza
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I don't know if 4081a was ever included in this set, but if you look at the
instructions you'll see that they were at least used when the set was designed
because they are shown in the instructions. And if you build this set according
to the instructions with 4081b the thick rings will block the rear wheels of
the truck. Of course this does not prove that the set actually came with 4081b
and it is not the only set where 4081b was included even though it interferes
with the functionality of the set.
I'll leave the 4081a in the set for now, but we can get back to that once
you have had time to check more sets.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 28, 2019 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7823-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3242c Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight without Cable Connection Holes (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Add 1 Part 3070b Red Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 3003old White Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 5)
* Add 3 Part 3003old Red Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports (match ID 4)
* Add 2 Part 3002old Red Brick 2 x 3 without Cross Supports (match ID 6)
* Change 2 Part Light Gray 3242 Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight {match ID 0 to 2}
* Change 1 Part White 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 5}
* Change 3 Part Red 3003 Brick 2 x 2 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 4}
* Change 2 Part Red 3002 Brick 2 x 3 {Regular to Alternate} {match ID 0 to 6}
Comments from Submitter:
The evidence will be uploaded soon.
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Did you forget to upload the evidence?
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Two more comments:
- I don't know if the bricks 3002, 3003 should be kep as alternates or not.
I don't have any evidence for them coming in later releases.
- I had previously submitted a request for adding one red 1*1 tile as extra.
I gave a reliable evidence. My other inv. change requests were accepted using
the same evidence. But that one was rejected with no comment. I would like to
know why (and it helps me to know).
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1118225
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We can remove the 3002 and 3003 from this inventory. They can always be added
as alternates if someone finds convincing evidence that they were included in
this set.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2019 10:48 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 76049-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, stergann writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3069bpb736 Blue Tile 1 x 2 with Groove with Gauge and Artificial Horizon on Black and Red Background Pattern (Sticker) - Set 76049 (Counterpart)
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Color should be medium blue. I changed it.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2019 10:42 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6661-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3070b Blue Tile 1 x 1 with Groove (3070) (Extra)
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2019 09:59 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7034-1 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part {Light Bluish Gray to Light Gray} 4592c02 Lever Small Base with Black Lever (Extra)
Comments from Submitter:
Should of course be light gray, not light bluish gray.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2019 09:53 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7034-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 2780 Black Technic, Pin with Friction Ridges Lengthwise WITH Center Slots (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 4592c02 Light Bluish Gray Lever Small Base with Black Lever (Extra)
* Add 1 Part 2447 Black Minifigure, Visor Standard (Extra)
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2019 05:58 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6987-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
* Change {2 to 1} Part Black {4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side to 4073c01 Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue}
* Change {2 to 1} Part Trans-Red {4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side to 4073c01 Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: sealed set contents
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Some further information about my set: it is the redesigned version with the
plates with pins. The 2x2 bricks were 3003old. The set must originally be from
Italy because there was a sticker on the box with Italian text that I'm assuming
says that it's not suitable for children under 36 months.
The following catalogs were included in the box:
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 25, 2019 05:51 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6987-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Black {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
* Change {2 to 1} Part Black {4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side to 4073c01 Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue}
* Change {2 to 1} Part Trans-Red {4073 Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side to 4073c01 Plate, Round 1 x 1, 2 on Sprue}
Comments from Submitter:
Source: sealed set contents
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 10:31 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6155-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Gear p95aqua (Not Applicable) Aquazone Poster, Large 1995 A2 (4.100.094/4.100.095-EU)
Comments from Submitter:
Poster was found in new set. One box seal was broken but all parts were still in sealed bags. So all contents were almost certainly originally in the box.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 09:43 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 31098-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Dark Orange {33057 Turkey Drumstick, 20mm with Round Opening on Back to 42876 Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back}
Comments from Submitter:
New part variant was not yet in the catalog when this set was inventoried. This Youtube video shows 42876 in this set: https://youtu.be/FA90099sjvc?t=70
Original submitter of this inventory parted this out in his store inventory, so we can't be 100% certain of the part variant in his set. But he checked and he does have 42876 in his store inventory which probably came from this set.
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Screenshot from the Youtube video clearly shows the smooth bar of 42876. In the
other variants it is textured like the rest of the part.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 09:38 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 31098-1 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Dark Orange {33057 Turkey Drumstick, 20mm with Round Opening on Back to 42876 Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back}
Comments from Submitter:
New part variant was not yet in the catalog when this set was inventoried. This Youtube video shows 42876 in this set: https://youtu.be/FA90099sjvc?t=70
Original submitter of this inventory parted this out in his store inventory, so we can't be 100% certain of the part variant in his set. But he checked and he does have 42876 in his store inventory which probably came from this set.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 08:26 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6952-1 | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 4073 Trans-Yellow Plate, Round 1 x 1 Straight Side
* Delete 2 Part 4592c03 Blue Lever Small Base with Light Gray Lever
* Change 1 Minifig {sp052 Classic Space - White with Blue Jet Pack with Stud On Front to sp052a Classic Space - White with Blue Jet Pack}
* Change {14 to 12} Part Trans-Red 4589 Cone 1 x 1 without Top Groove
Comments from Submitter:
Adding new minifigure with complete jetpack and removing jetpack parts from set inventory.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 08:07 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6952-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3937c09 Black Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Base with Light Gray Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Top (3937 / 3938) (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3937c09 Blue Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Base with Light Gray Hinge Brick 1 x 2 Top (3937 / 3938) (Counterpart)
* Change 4 Part Light Gray {3003 Brick 2 x 2 to 3003old Brick 2 x 2 without Inside Supports}
Comments from Submitter:
Found 3003old in my set.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 03:16 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set BL19001-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
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| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Dark Orange {33057 Turkey Drumstick, 20mm with Round Opening on Back to 42876 Turkey Drumstick, 22mm with Oval Opening on Back}
Comments from Submitter:
Checked my set and found this new variant that was not in the catalog yet when this set was inventoried.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 23, 2019 02:30 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 6373-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3024 Yellow Plate 1 x 1
* Add 1 Part 3794a Yellow Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)
* Change {1 to 2} Part Red 3069b Tile 1 x 2 with Groove
Comments from Submitter:
I got a used copy in very good condition. Even the sprues are there. These parts were extra in the box. I found almost all of them on the models on back of the box.
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- The yellow jumper can be seen in two models.
- Two yellow 1*1 plate can be seen on the ship (left-side top) Sorry for the
quality of the image. The yellow plates 4*1, 1*1 and 10*1 are used on each side
of the ship, on the edge.
- Two 1*2 red tiles are used on various red or yellow motorcycles.
- It is likely that on the bottom left-side of model, three yellow 1*1 plates
are used. But the box art is not clear.
I believe three yellow plates 1*1 came with this set. Whether the third is extra
is used on an alternate model is not clear.
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Based on your photos the presence of the red 3069b and yellow 3794a is clearly
visible in the alternate models. Can you post photos showing a bit more detail
of the alternate models where the yellow 3024 are used? It would probably be
a bit better visible if you posted close-ups of just those models instead of
the whole back of the box.
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Still difficult to see on those photos. Unfortunately those box art photos were
not always very clear. But I think I recognize the 1x1 plates. So I'll accept
this request.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2019 13:08 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7822-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 3242 Light Gray Train, Track 12V Conducting Rail Straight
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The source is from a NIB set sold on Ebay in Italy.
I have also seen used lots containing 4.5v sets+7822 and 4 extra conducting rails.
This set is advertised 4.5v in catalogs 1980-2 but TLG included 4 straight conducting
rails too so at the end, it was both working with either 4.5v or 12v layout.
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I'm not convinced that this set would originally come with conducting rails.
It seems more likely that this seller would throw those rails in with the set
as a service for buyers who might want to use it with a 12V layout. I don't
remember my own set coming with these rails.
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Earlier I wrote that I didn't remember my own set coming with conducting
rails. But I guess my memory was not perfect about this set that I got many years
ago. I was just cleaning up some drawers and at the bottom of one of them I found
some old notes that I thought I had lost.
In those notes I wrote some interesting and/or unexpected things I found in sealed
sets. One of those notes states that I found conducting rails in this set. So
I guess we now have another source of conducting rails in a NIB set.
Based on this I will accept the inventory change request, but as mentioned in
another post I will change the conducting rails to extras and I will also add
a note that these conducting rails did not come in all copies of the set.
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| Author: | paulvdb | | Posted: | Sep 22, 2019 07:42 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 702-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
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| In Inventories Requests, SezaR writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, paulvdb writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, Turez writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Delete 1 Part 2913 Blue Electric, Train Track Contact Base with Wire (97 cm)
* Delete 4 Part trainrim Light Gray Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels
* Delete 4 Part wheel2a Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor
* Add 4 Part wheel2ac01 Red Train Wheel Spoked for Motor with Black Train Rim for 4.5V & 12V Locomotive Wheels (wheel2a / trainrim)
* Change {2 to 1} Part Blue bb0236ac01 Electric, Connector, 2-Way Male Rounded Narrow Type 2 with Hollow Pins
* Change 1 Part Blue 2913c01 Electric, Train Track Contact Base with Wire (97 cm) and Connector {Counterpart to Regular}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set contents, Catawiki 29351443.
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Nice found Turez
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Since I don't know anything about the blue 12V train era (This set is exactly twice my age! ) I hope someone else can help here:
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It's a bit before my time as well
| | - Should the wheels with gray rims be alternate parts?
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If I remember correctly someone did write something about the transition between
the two colors of rims in another change request for a set from that time. Probably
Reza because he knows a lot about these older train sets. I'll have to look
it up when I have some more time.
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Maybe I know a lot, but I still feel I know nothing about these old sets
Based on what I know so far, TLG started to produce trainrims in black since
1969. I won't be surprised if I learn they produced them in 1968. -Maybe
they first used all their light gray ones in 1968 and then used the black ones
in mid 1968.) But based on my current knowledge and evidence, they produced them
since 1969 and I think we can remove the light gray ones for these set and any
other set released between 1969-79.
I have photos of three sealed copies, all coming with black trainrims. See photos
attached. We can read the production dates of motors as follows:
28 7 69 (source: Bluxe) See photos 2 and 3
23 2 69 (source: Facebook) See photo 4
25 7 69 (source: from a Lego collector) See photo 5
16 2 70 (source: Catawiki) See photo 1
This gives a good evidence that we can remove light gray trainrims (but there
is still a tiny chance that the very early releases came with light gray ones.)
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| | - What is the wire with two connectors for? The photo shows it with 1x bb0236ac01 and 1x bb0093ac01, but the catalog image shows 2x bb0236ac01.
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I think the catalog image is taken from a Lego catalog. It shows also 1x bb0236ac01
and 1x bb0093ac01 but in the image we can only see bb0093ac01
|p=bb0236ac01]
from its side so this is why it looks like bb0236ac01
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Probably for when you use the motor to build a car instead of a train. You can
see that the set includes the necessary wheels and tires for that. The train
track contact base is used to connect to the conducting rails when you use the
motor for a train, but when using it is a car you'd need a wire with two
connectors to connect it to the transformer. It appears that transformer 740
needs the bb093ac01 connector while the bb0236ac01 connector would go in the
motor.
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Correct. This is what TLG did with other Lego train accessories or even Lego
trains. See for example the inventory of
| | Based on that it seems that the wire with two different connectors should be
correct for this set, but I am not familiar enough with the sets from that time
to be completely confident about that. Especially when the box art shows a wire
with two connectors bb0236ac01. So I would appreciate input from people more
familiar with these sets from the late 1960s.
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Yes, it is correct. This set comes with two wire/connector assemblies. These
changes can be accepted but based on the photos that I have on my PC, it seems
the length of the two wires are different. Moreover, then length of wires, the
name of the items and maybe even the item should be changed! We still need to
wait until the catalog admins can have free time for the project map for wires
then we can make better changes for these sets.
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Thanks for your reply. Based on your research we can remove the wheels with light
gray rims from this inventory. They can always be added again if someone finds
evidence that they were included in some very early releases of this set.
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