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 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 14:33
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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mhortar (813)

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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  
(There might still be problems though. Say, a buyer parts out a set into a WL,
they are asked if they allow other variants, they accept because they think it
will be cheaper and easier to fullfil, but the set really can only be built with
the one variant )


This part is the one that would potentially cause issues. Things like the variations
of 3933/3934 that can cause parts to physically not attach in some scenarios.
That's the first I can think of just because I've experienced it in the
past.

Josh
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 14:05
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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SylvainLS (46)

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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
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Thank you for the explanations. I agree that some times, or for some people it
can be useful, but i believe that most of the time it isn't. As suggested,
I think that there should be an option to do a general search for wantlists or
in store, choose if you care about variants or not.

The database isn’t made for this, and the only way now is to have “undetermined”
variants, which just adds another variant, fouls the price guide, and makes half
the buyers unhappy.

What would be nice would be “virtual undetermined parts,” and inventories and
sellers should still have to use the determined variants but searches and WLs
wouldn’t.

(There might still be problems though. Say, a buyer parts out a set into a WL,
they are asked if they allow other variants, they accept because they think it
will be cheaper and easier to fullfil, but the set really can only be built with
the one variant )

But that means modifying the database and the site too deeply, at least for now….
 Author: nectara View Messages Posted By nectara
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 13:39
 Subject: Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets
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nectara (6580)

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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.




I voted no.
They are MOC's not officials Lego sets.
Regards
Nectara
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 13:29
 Subject: Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets
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mhortar (813)

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In Suggestions, Teup writes:
  In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.

From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.

Josh

They're still more official than BrickArms, which is also in the catalog...

Plus, the whole "exciting" part about the whole project, according to BL itself,
is the fact that it's an official cooperation with the LEGO Group.

So yes, I definitely see the irony.

I objected to adding BrickArms as well, for what it's worth. Fat lot of good
that did

Josh
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 13:07
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In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
  In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.

From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.

Josh

They're still more official than BrickArms, which is also in the catalog...

Plus, the whole "exciting" part about the whole project, according to BL itself,
is the fact that it's an official cooperation with the LEGO Group.

So yes, I definitely see the irony.
 Author: brikomania View Messages Posted By brikomania
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 13:06
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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brikomania (6415)

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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



Thank you for the explanations. I agree that some times, or for some people it
can be useful, but i believe that most of the time it isn't. As suggested,
I think that there should be an option to do a general search for wantlists or
in store, choose if you care about variants or not.

Many buyers ask if i have a part, for example, a 1 x 1 with clip, and I do, but
they had the O clip in their wanted lists, and i had the U clip, but they didn't
care for either.
 Author: mhortar View Messages Posted By mhortar
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 12:55
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mhortar (813)

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In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
  There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.

From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.

Josh
 Author: Brick.Door View Messages Posted By Brick.Door
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 12:46
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There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.

Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.

Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 11:32
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.

I guess it does in a way as you can search for "arch 1 x 6 x 2 -curved -pattern"
if you don't care which one you get, but it only really works for searches
and not wants lists. So yes having a metadata tag to link them would be good.
Same for a number of other parts with minor variations that may be inconsequential
for some people but important for others.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 10:42
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.

You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.

Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).

I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.


but I finally was able to read this mold number
 
Part No: 33464pb01  Name: Minifigure, Baby / Toddler Head with Neck with Black Eyes, White Pupils, and Smile Pattern
* 
33464pb01 Minifigure, Baby / Toddler Head with Neck with Black Eyes, White Pupils, and Smile Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Cheater

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