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 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 11:32
 Subject: Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous?
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.

I guess it does in a way as you can search for "arch 1 x 6 x 2 -curved -pattern"
if you don't care which one you get, but it only really works for searches
and not wants lists. So yes having a metadata tag to link them would be good.
Same for a number of other parts with minor variations that may be inconsequential
for some people but important for others.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 10:42
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.

You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.

Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).

I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.


but I finally was able to read this mold number
 
Part No: 33464pb01  Name: Minifigure, Baby / Toddler Head with Neck with Black Eyes, White Pupils, and Smile Pattern
* 
33464pb01 Minifigure, Baby / Toddler Head with Neck with Black Eyes, White Pupils, and Smile Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Head

Cheater
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 10:36
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In Catalog, axaday writes:
  In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.

You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.

Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).

I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.


but I finally was able to read this mold number
 
Part No: 33464pb01  Name: Minifigure, Baby / Toddler Head with Neck with Black Eyes, White Pupils, and Smile Pattern
* 
33464pb01 Minifigure, Baby / Toddler Head with Neck with Black Eyes, White Pupils, and Smile Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Head
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 10:28
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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
  In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.

You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.

Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).

I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 08:38
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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



There is a reason for the multiple entries, and that reason is because LEGO made
three variations of that part with different purposes in mind for each one. Some
of the builds that use one variation of the arch cannot be built using either
of the other two.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 08:08
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In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.

You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
 Author: dearlydeparted View Messages Posted By dearlydeparted
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 08:02
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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 12, 2019 07:48
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In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
  In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

Three variants. Don’t exaggerate, you’re showing them

 
Part No: 3307  Name: Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thick Top with Reinforced Underside
* 
3307 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thick Top with Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch
 
Part No: 15254  Name: Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Medium Thick Top without Reinforced Underside
* 
15254 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Medium Thick Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch
 
Part No: 12939  Name: Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thin Top without Reinforced Underside
* 
12939 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thin Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch

  
  I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.

Yes, the variants are important:

1. You can fit some parts under the thin and medium thick parts that you can’t
fit under the thick one. E.g.
 
Part No: 20309  Name: Window 1 x 4 x 1 2/3 with Spoked Rounded Top
* 
20309 Window 1 x 4 x 1 2/3 with Spoked Rounded Top
Parts: Window

2. Collectors find it very important to get the right variant.

The odd part here would be the thin one: it was short lived (a year). Too fragile?
Too thin (it leaves a noticeable gap)?
Anyway, it’s here and came before the medium thick and was already in the catalogue
(2013) when the medium thick version was spotted / included in the catalogue
(2016).
There was no reason to merge thin and medium thick then and there’s no much reason
to do it now as we would still need to keep the old one.

Wouldn’t it be as confusing to have a “thick” version and “more or less thin”
one?
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Catalog, brikomania writes:
  I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.

But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?

I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?



The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.

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