Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | cosmicray  | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: Debugging shipping rules | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Is there any way to debug these kind of things? Like making a fake order in my
shop?
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You can create a second account for testing purposes
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Correct, just do not click to the point where an order is actually created.
Just use it to see what numbers are being calculated for the shopping cart.
Nita Rae
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 17:06 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Celebrate with pizza!!!" 
copies direct from your message sill including the 1 "
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*silly?
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| Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:55 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 12 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
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I would propose a more precise definition?
To be considered Complete:
* Box and eventual Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
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So it’s for Used only?
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Darn yes.
I'm Used to sell New only.
A bit confused too.
| | | | If not, to be considered Incomplete:
* Box and Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
* All eventual Inventoried Minifigures and Gears should be present.
* All eventual sticker Sheets should be present.
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… or, for Used, stickers applied, or a mix of applied stickers and (incomplete)
sticker sheets.
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Thanks SylvainGPT.
Now I just miss the Nubs version: "Celebrate with pizza!!!"
But yes.
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Celebrate with pizza!!!"
copies direct from your message sill including the 1 "
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:41 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
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Now I just miss the Nubs version: "Celebrate with pizza!!!"
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Celebrate with waffles!!! 🧇🧇🧇
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:19 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
I would propose a more precise definition?
To be considered Complete:
* Box and eventual Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
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So it’s for Used only?
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Darn yes.
I'm Used to sell New only.
A bit confused too.
| | | | If not, to be considered Incomplete:
* Box and Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
* All eventual Inventoried Minifigures and Gears should be present.
* All eventual sticker Sheets should be present.
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… or, for Used, stickers applied, or a mix of applied stickers and (incomplete)
sticker sheets.
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Thanks SylvainGPT.
Now I just miss the Nubs version: "Celebrate with pizza!!!"
But yes.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:15 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
I would propose a more precise definition?
To be considered Complete:
* Box and eventual Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
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So it’s for Used only?
| | If not, to be considered Incomplete:
* Box and Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
* All eventual Inventoried Minifigures and Gears should be present.
* All eventual sticker Sheets should be present.
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… or, for Used, stickers applied, or a mix of applied stickers and (incomplete)
sticker sheets.
| | * Other missing parts or items should represent a relatively minor value eg.
less than 10% of the total Average Price Guide Value of this parted out Set --
at the date of the lot upload/update.
If not, it should be listed as Custom Item.
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| Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:12 | | Subject: | Re: Malicious code/ Scam | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Problem | |
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| | | Are they why if you search up “.” On YouTube then you get creepy results?
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Nah, that was around years before AI - it's closer to those Elsa/Spider-Man
videos that were "made for kids" & had a ton of inappropriate content.
The "." videos were some sort of algorithm bypass that allowed people
to upload disturbing content & not get caught by YouTube's filtering system
The "." search was "fixed" in a sense that YouTube no longer
suggests weird search terms or videos with foreign symbols in the title when
you search "." but it still results in creepy videos showing up (which
are titled "Full Stop Punctuation" although I think those videos are
just copycats trying to get views off of people who learned about the whole situation
after it was "resolved" - none of the videos being suggested contain
disturbing content, it's just odd/creepy videos with unrelated, custom thumbnails
to draw people in; it's basically a creepypasta sort of thing now
Before YouTube caught on it was a mix of odd/creepy copycat vids and actual NSFL
content, no idea how people figured it out but I'm glad it's somewhat
fixed now
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:11 | | Subject: | Re: NPB | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | NPBs stay permanently for both buying/selling, I have some from 2021 still in
my "orders received"
I think that's how the strikes are enforced, if the order disappears the
strike doesn't exist; I may be wrong though
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I'd say you're right.
If you still have some (NPB/NSS) - no judgment about this, you just bad people
- then they've not been removed and they'll count in the max 3
you can get before priviledge(s) removed.
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| Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Admin_Russell writes:
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USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
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Well, I guess the problem is in the definition of “serious” and “very serious.”
And saying “it’s on a case by case basis” won’t help those who genuinely want
to know how to list their sets without risking infringing.
(OTOH, rhetorical “what if” will still pop up anyway.)
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I would propose a more precise definition?
To be considered Complete:
* Box and eventual Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
If not, to be considered Incomplete:
* Box and Instructions may be missing if clearly described in the Lot.
* All eventual Inventoried Minifigures and Gears should be present.
* All eventual sticker Sheets should be present.
* Other missing parts or items should represent a relatively minor value eg.
less than 10% of the total Average Price Guide Value of this parted out Set --
at the date of the lot upload/update.
If not, it should be listed as Custom Item.
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| Author: | ExplodingFruit | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 16:04 | | Subject: | Re: Sellers can complain and get you penalised? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Brickman4you writes:
| | In Buying, JONELSEA writes:
| | Hi, I'm new to Bricklink, my frist order turned out to be a NSS whatever
thst is. I have uet to get my money back. Now, I've just received a compliant
from a seller for not proceeding with an order which they changed after saying
in am email theyd honour an invoice they sent to me for less then they were asking.
No, now thank you Bricklink. Not cool. I wish to make a complaint to Bricklink
for these experiences.These rules and obligstions are not clear enough for first
time users of bricklink.
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Most of your purchases seem to be from overseas, and it looks like you are in
Utah. Are you using EASYBUY or are you clicking on a wanted list and selecting
BUY ALL? There are thousands of great stores here in the US.
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Personally, I don't know why anyone would order from overseas. Too risky.
I'll say it again-There are thousands of great stores here in the US. Including
mine!!!
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| Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 15:29 | | Subject: | Re: NPB | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| NPBs stay permanently for both buying/selling, I have some from 2021 still in
my "orders received"
I think that's how the strikes are enforced, if the order disappears the
strike doesn't exist; I may be wrong though
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| Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 15:27 | | Subject: | Re: Sellers can complain and get you penalised? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, Familybuild writes:
| | Hi there.
This concerns a NPB , complaint i believe instead of NSS.
By the looks of it and the understanding of what you wrote;
The seller added picking and postal , and after that you did not pay the invoice.
For future overseas and or any purchases where instant checkout is unavailable;
Use a request quote option
Instead of the Invoice.
You could try to be nice, and request a cancel when the invoice is done and you
dislike the outcome..
But request quote is without the obligation.
Have a good one.
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This is a problem; excessive postage is a legitimate reason to cancel an order
and should never result in feedback for either party as a transaction didn't
happen. And for postage costs there shouldn't be an option of an NPB. Holding
a buyer hostage because the shipping cost is beyond what they expected is not
a good way to do business. Most people don't understand how to ask for a
quote, many things are not intuitive here.
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| Author: | Cob | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 15:20 | | Subject: | Re: NPB | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, JerryMonroe writes:
| | How do I remove an NPB from my sales page?
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The order will auto disappear after about xx months. I believe NPB take longer
than the standard 6 months and take 12 months.
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| Author: | JerryMonroe | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 15:18 | | Subject: | NPB | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | How do I remove an NPB from my sales page? |
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 15:08 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| | | USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
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Will this page
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
be updated to reflect this new wording?
Currently it still indicates (for used incomplete sets)...
Every item for sale on BrickLink has a Condition which is assigned by the
seller.
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Incomplete - Set is missing items. Description should state what exactly is missing.
As the seller assigns the condition, do they get to choose what the difference
between serious and very serious is?
Personally, I think rules should be precise so if an item is removed then it
is clear as to why.
So something along the lines of ...
USED: If instructions and/or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE
if this is mentioned in the notes. If any of the parts, including stickers, necessary
to build the main model and any supplementary models are missing then the listing
must be marked as incomplete. However, it must be listed as a custom item and
not an incomplete set if any of the following is true:
- It is missing more than 10% of the parts (or whatever is decided how much
can be missing)
- It is missing any of the essence of the set, including missing any of the
figures of an IP set, name tiles in architecture and similar sets, printed parts
unique to the set, etc.
Alternatively, it might be better to just remove the ability to list an incomplete
set. So if anything is missing and the set does not meet the definition of complete
(whether used complete or new complete) then it must be listed as a custom lot.
That way, there is no subjectivity when it comes to items being removed. And
probably less work for the helpdesk or whoever removes items reported.
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| Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: Sellers can complain and get you penalised? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| In Buying, JONELSEA writes:
| | Hi, I'm new to Bricklink, my frist order turned out to be a NSS whatever
thst is. I have uet to get my money back. Now, I've just received a compliant
from a seller for not proceeding with an order which they changed after saying
in am email theyd honour an invoice they sent to me for less then they were asking.
No, now thank you Bricklink. Not cool. I wish to make a complaint to Bricklink
for these experiences.These rules and obligstions are not clear enough for first
time users of bricklink.
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It's a bit confusing trying to corroborate your words here with feedbacks
left and received. It seems there's a NSS as well as a NPB filing involved?
Anyway, looking at both feedbacks left (plus reply) and your posted concern here...
It seems you're crossing each other in the night, so-to-speak. The "asking
price" was not increased, the invoice total increase due to postage and packaging
charges which is fairly commonplace here. On the other hand the seller apparently
doesn't have these added charges spelled-out within their terms.
Neither fully wrong nor right, and both perhaps too quick with punitive moves.
Remove feedbacks and open comms, would be my advise to you and your vendor. There's
always time and opportunity to reinstate negative feedback and punitive filings.
-popsicle
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| Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, Admin_Russell writes:
| | […]
USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
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Well, I guess the problem is in the definition of “serious” and “very serious.”
And saying “it’s on a case by case basis” won’t help those who genuinely want
to know how to list their sets without risking infringing.
(OTOH, rhetorical “what if” will still pop up anyway.)
| | NEW: If instructions or box are missing, it is INCOMPLETE at best. It may not
even be able to be listed as INCOMPLETE if the essence of the set is missing
(all the minifigures in an IP set) or if only a small portion of the whole is
present (i.e. a single minifigure or a part).
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Wasn’t there a tolerance for new, not yet catalogued, minifigures, when only
the set entry exists (so, without an inventory yet)?
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Yes, there was. But frankly, they should have always been listed in the Custom
section. People still use the Custom section extensively when trying to list
things early, so we know this is a viable option.
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| Author: | Familybuild | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 14:52 | | Subject: | Re: Sellers can complain and get you penalised? | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Buying | |
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| Hi there.
This concerns a NPB , complaint i believe instead of NSS.
By the looks of it and the understanding of what you wrote;
The seller added picking and postal , and after that you did not pay the invoice.
For future overseas and or any purchases where instant checkout is unavailable;
Use a request quote option
Instead of the Invoice.
You could try to be nice, and request a cancel when the invoice is done and you
dislike the outcome..
But request quote is without the obligation.
Have a good one.
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| Author: | Swatson217 | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 14:49 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| This whole thing is super confusing for sellers trying to do what is asked of
us. Parameters need to be clear, which they are not.
In Terms and Policies, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Terms and Policies, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The newsletter does not mention a change either in the policy or the enforcement
of the policy. Nothing has changed in that regard.
As a ball-park figure, if a listing has less than 80% of the complete set contents,
it shouldn't be listed as incomplete. Another rule of thumb - everything
essential to the character of the set must be present, so for example, the signature
printed tile in Architecture sets must be included to list the set as INcomplete.
The newsletter was highlighting the most common problem with incomplete listings,
of which most are in USED condition. New items have different rules. Sets missing
instructions or boxes do not need to be listed as incomplete if these deficiencies
are mentioned in the notes - for USED items. Items listed as NEW must contain
the original packaging and instructions.
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What is meant by this statement from the newsletter? Our Item Condition
policy only allows
certain parts of a set to be missing, such as instructions or original packaging,
to qualify it as Incomplete.
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USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
NEW: If instructions or box are missing, it is INCOMPLETE at best. It may not
even be able to be listed as INCOMPLETE if the essence of the set is missing
(all the minifigures in an IP set) or if only a small portion of the whole is
present (i.e. a single minifigure or a part).
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | May 7, 2024 14:42 | | Subject: | Re: What is an incomplete set? | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Terms and Policies | |
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| In Terms and Policies, Admin_Russell writes:
| | […]
USED: If instructions or box are missing, it is still considered COMPLETE if
these deficiencies are mentioned in the notes. However, for more serious
deficiencies, the listing must be marked as INCOMPLETE, and for very serious
deficiencies, it must be listed as a custom item.
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Well, I guess the problem is in the definition of “serious” and “very serious.”
And saying “it’s on a case by case basis” won’t help those who genuinely want
to know how to list their sets without risking infringing.
(OTOH, rhetorical “what if” will still pop up anyway.)
| | NEW: If instructions or box are missing, it is INCOMPLETE at best. It may not
even be able to be listed as INCOMPLETE if the essence of the set is missing
(all the minifigures in an IP set) or if only a small portion of the whole is
present (i.e. a single minifigure or a part).
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Wasn’t there a tolerance for new, not yet catalogued, minifigures, when only
the set entry exists (so, without an inventory yet)?
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