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 Author: randyipp View Messages Posted By randyipp
 Posted: Aug 11, 2018 19:36
 Subject: Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items.
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randyipp (3477)

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Personally I think paired wedges are over rated. Some sets do not even have
them in pairs. Now most buyers get them in pairs but not all. Maybe they bought
the others from someone else, maybe they had what they needed already.

Wedge plates are a pretty mediocre seller as it is. I'm not saying I wouldn't
vote yes on this type of suggestion but I probably would not use it. Myabe there
are some parts out there I would like to keep pared, but I am not going to lose
any sleep over the ones that aren't.


In Suggestions, axaday writes:
  So what if we just instituted a limited form of superlot what was just for paired
pieces. I think it would dodge all the problems you pointed out and solve the
problem that the OP wants solved. I don't think that would cause the sort
of problems that some bad seeds were causing with superlots before.

I know my heart sinks when I have 8 left wedges and 8 right wedges and someone
just gets the right ones. It's gonna be pretty hard to sell the left ones
after that. Definitely going to have to mark them down to entice someone. And
you know what it entices them to do? Buy the left ones from me and the right
ones from someone else. Rinse and repeat.

In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?

Example:
 
Part No: 981982  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
* 
981982 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

As far as I can see, there is only one non-arm entry in the catalog similar to
what you're talking about:

[P=30230c01]

As you can see, it's marked for deletion and doesn't appear in any inventories.
There are 157 arm pair entries and they are anomalies in the catalog. Here
are the problems I see with left/right pairs having their own catalog entries:

1. They would almost certainly not be included in any inventories. Thus,
they would not show years of release. They would also lack dimensions and PCCs
and this would swell the lists of items missing those bits of information, which
would hinder the ability to locate items legitimately missing information.

2. There would be huge amounts of them, especially when you count paired
left/right stickered parts. This would hinder browsing through legitimate catalog
entries. See this list:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=2

3. The catalog attempts to limit itself to how TLG packaged and released
items for the sake of manageability. Obviously there are exceptions such as
large assemblies, but at the moment I can't think of any left/right pairs
recognized as a collection of items by TLG (although I've no doubt that some
do exist).

Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Aug 11, 2018 19:17
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axaday (7302)

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So what if we just instituted a limited form of superlot what was just for paired
pieces. I think it would dodge all the problems you pointed out and solve the
problem that the OP wants solved. I don't think that would cause the sort
of problems that some bad seeds were causing with superlots before.

I know my heart sinks when I have 8 left wedges and 8 right wedges and someone
just gets the right ones. It's gonna be pretty hard to sell the left ones
after that. Definitely going to have to mark them down to entice someone. And
you know what it entices them to do? Buy the left ones from me and the right
ones from someone else. Rinse and repeat.

In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?

Example:
 
Part No: 981982  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
* 
981982 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

As far as I can see, there is only one non-arm entry in the catalog similar to
what you're talking about:

[P=30230c01]

As you can see, it's marked for deletion and doesn't appear in any inventories.
There are 157 arm pair entries and they are anomalies in the catalog. Here
are the problems I see with left/right pairs having their own catalog entries:

1. They would almost certainly not be included in any inventories. Thus,
they would not show years of release. They would also lack dimensions and PCCs
and this would swell the lists of items missing those bits of information, which
would hinder the ability to locate items legitimately missing information.

2. There would be huge amounts of them, especially when you count paired
left/right stickered parts. This would hinder browsing through legitimate catalog
entries. See this list:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=2

3. The catalog attempts to limit itself to how TLG packaged and released
items for the sake of manageability. Obviously there are exceptions such as
large assemblies, but at the moment I can't think of any left/right pairs
recognized as a collection of items by TLG (although I've no doubt that some
do exist).

Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Aug 11, 2018 19:03
 Subject: Re: Improvement to super-lots? Paired items.
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SylvainLS (46)

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In Suggestions, StormChaser writes:
  […]
Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.

Also, don’t forget that when you have “left arm” and “right arm” in a wanted
list, “left and right arms” is never suggested, and vice versa.

The complete minifig isn’t suggested either if you parted it out in your WL.

Same for sets.


When looking for a minifig part (which is rare but happens), I add both the part
and the minifigs that use it (if they are affordable). I would have to do the
same if there were paired parts….

Of course, if the search algorithms were to be modified to help me do that, that
would be wonderful.
And if they could also help search for multiple colours without having to look
for N/A and a bunch of colours I don’t want…
And if they could point me to a set or incomplete set that has a bunch of the
parts I want and which is for sale for cheaper than I would have to pay for the
parts…
And I’d want a poney too.
 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Aug 11, 2018 18:20
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StormChaser (569)

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In Suggestions, tEoS writes:
  Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?

Example:
 
Part No: 981982  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
* 
981982 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

As far as I can see, there is only one non-arm entry in the catalog similar to
what you're talking about:

[P=30230c01]

As you can see, it's marked for deletion and doesn't appear in any inventories.
There are 157 arm pair entries and they are anomalies in the catalog. Here
are the problems I see with left/right pairs having their own catalog entries:

1. They would almost certainly not be included in any inventories. Thus,
they would not show years of release. They would also lack dimensions and PCCs
and this would swell the lists of items missing those bits of information, which
would hinder the ability to locate items legitimately missing information.

2. There would be huge amounts of them, especially when you count paired
left/right stickered parts. This would hinder browsing through legitimate catalog
entries. See this list:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelCat.asp?relID=2

3. The catalog attempts to limit itself to how TLG packaged and released
items for the sake of manageability. Obviously there are exceptions such as
large assemblies, but at the moment I can't think of any left/right pairs
recognized as a collection of items by TLG (although I've no doubt that some
do exist).

Paired part entries may make things marginally easier for sellers, but the added
burden of work on everyone involved does not, IMO, justify them. Also, I doubt
they'd be used enough to justify their existence.
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
 Posted: Aug 11, 2018 13:35
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Is there any chance that paired items such as wedges (left and right) would receive
their own entry in the catalog, much like the pair of minifig arms entry?

Example:
 
Part No: 981982  Name: Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
* 
981982 (Inv) Arm, (Matching Left and Right) Pair
Parts: Minifigure, Body Part

Super-lots are a pain to work with and BL buyers don't seem to read listing
notes that items must be purchased with matching side (maybe due to generating
carts from wanted lists).

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