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 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
 Posted: Apr 9, 2017 16:42
 Subject: Re: What to do when buyer doesnt pay
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In Suggestions, stuartflight writes:
  Ive had an order from a buyer for 7 days now sent email still no payment just
want to know how do i go about this now?

File a NPB alert: https://www.bricklink.com/retractOrder.asp
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 13:28
 Subject: Re: NPB increasing problem !
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In Problem Order, rogerrabbitt writes:

  Yeah, you got it !
I can see 6 buyers logging in after invoicing them a week or more before and
no one of them read my Messages - and not only newbies !

A lot of people have BL e-mails send automaticly to their inbox, and read the
message from there. Why would they read them again

  
Being harsh would result in NPB procedure and risk of negatve Feedback ( including
senseless work )

But that's how the system works, and if the buyer pays, why would he leave
negative over it and if he doesn't pay, completing the NPB will give you
the right to have any negative removed.
And you can invoice before picking the order

  
The automatic reminder for a Minute or 2 ( for example after logging in ) will
stop
excuses like "I didn't read email" !

Well, like I said above, some people read offline and execute their payment from
there, why add additional banners that will only confuse buyers more. If they
lack reading their messages, well they will also simply ignore other things to
read and it won't change a thing wether they pay or not, regardless wether
you send 1 or 10 reminders, if they decided not to pay, well then you move to
NPB, that's what it serves for and does give a red banner, simple as that.
 Author: BLUSER_236118 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_236118
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 13:15
 Subject: Re: NPB increasing problem !
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In Problem Order, Brick_Top writes:
  In Problem Order, rogerrabbitt writes:
  In Problem Order, RobErNat writes:
  In Problem Order, steekstra writes:
  Yeh i have send out some NPB's.. i don't mind if they have more feedback
point's !!

Always send them reminders.

The problem with some HUGH feedback buyers is they think they are so speciaal
, that would not give the new Sellers a nice feeling...

Steekstra

It has nothing to do with NPB, the OP wants it BEFORE one opens an NPB, like
** all the time **.

And it has also nothing to do with buyers who might think they are special and
also nothing to do with new sellers. This has to do with a notification a buyer
has an unpaid order...

We don't need that, as the 'my bricklink' page overview already tells
you that
and if the buyer doesn't pay, then he'll get a red banner when he is
in NPB status, so no need for an extra banner BEFORE that.



Hello

Sorry for confusing you all !
My Intention has been completely misunderstood - what i wanted is !

After 1 week and lets say at least 2 reminders i want a less harsh method than
NPB !
It would be the last step before NPB procedure and not an immediate affect after
buying !

Hope this got clear now !

So like, automatic reminders instead of the seller manually sending the reminder?


Yeah, you got it !
I can see 6 buyers logging in after invoicing them a week or more before and
no one of them read my Messages - and not only newbies !

Being harsh would result in NPB procedure and risk of negatve Feedback ( including
senseless work )

The automatic reminder for a Minute or 2 ( for example after logging in ) will
stop
excuses like "I didn't read email" !
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 13:14
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RobErNat (2926)

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In Problem Order, rogerrabbitt writes:
  Sorry for confusing you all !
My Intention has been completely misunderstood - what i wanted is !

After 1 week and lets say at least 2 reminders i want a less harsh method than
NPB !
It would be the last step before NPB procedure and not an immediate affect after
buying !

Hope this got clear now !

Well, maybe, but totally pointless and an NPB is not harsh, it already serves
'alerting' the buyer he has an unpaid order

http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=72&q=npb

So no need for extra banners...

Besides, a lot of people have asked in the past to speed up the NPB process,
you actually wanna delay it some more

Still NO, the system works fine the way it is now.

And in the long run there will be no need either, as the site will need to move
towards an auto-payment on checkout, so whenever PP is involved as payment method,
there will be no more NPB's on those (might still be there for other payment
methods).

Eric
 Author: bb314137 View Messages Posted By bb314137
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 13:05
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In Problem Order, rogerrabbitt writes:
  In Problem Order, RobErNat writes:
  In Problem Order, steekstra writes:
  Yeh i have send out some NPB's.. i don't mind if they have more feedback
point's !!

Always send them reminders.

The problem with some HUGH feedback buyers is they think they are so speciaal
, that would not give the new Sellers a nice feeling...

Steekstra

It has nothing to do with NPB, the OP wants it BEFORE one opens an NPB, like
** all the time **.

And it has also nothing to do with buyers who might think they are special and
also nothing to do with new sellers. This has to do with a notification a buyer
has an unpaid order...

We don't need that, as the 'my bricklink' page overview already tells
you that
and if the buyer doesn't pay, then he'll get a red banner when he is
in NPB status, so no need for an extra banner BEFORE that.



Hello

Sorry for confusing you all !
My Intention has been completely misunderstood - what i wanted is !

After 1 week and lets say at least 2 reminders i want a less harsh method than
NPB !
It would be the last step before NPB procedure and not an immediate affect after
buying !

Hope this got clear now !

So like, automatic reminders instead of the seller manually sending the reminder?
 Author: BLUSER_236118 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_236118
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:59
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In Problem Order, RobErNat writes:
  In Problem Order, steekstra writes:
  Yeh i have send out some NPB's.. i don't mind if they have more feedback
point's !!

Always send them reminders.

The problem with some HUGH feedback buyers is they think they are so speciaal
, that would not give the new Sellers a nice feeling...

Steekstra

It has nothing to do with NPB, the OP wants it BEFORE one opens an NPB, like
** all the time **.

And it has also nothing to do with buyers who might think they are special and
also nothing to do with new sellers. This has to do with a notification a buyer
has an unpaid order...

We don't need that, as the 'my bricklink' page overview already tells
you that
and if the buyer doesn't pay, then he'll get a red banner when he is
in NPB status, so no need for an extra banner BEFORE that.



Hello

Sorry for confusing you all !
My Intention has been completely misunderstood - what i wanted is !

After 1 week and lets say at least 2 reminders i want a less harsh method than
NPB !
It would be the last step before NPB procedure and not an immediate affect after
buying !

Hope this got clear now !
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:51
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In Problem Order, steekstra writes:
  Yeh i have send out some NPB's.. i don't mind if they have more feedback
point's !!

Always send them reminders.

The problem with some HUGH feedback buyers is they think they are so speciaal
, that would not give the new Sellers a nice feeling...

Steekstra

It has nothing to do with NPB, the OP wants it BEFORE one opens an NPB, like
** all the time **.

And it has also nothing to do with buyers who might think they are special and
also nothing to do with new sellers. This has to do with a notification a buyer
has an unpaid order...

We don't need that, as the 'my bricklink' page overview already tells
you that
and if the buyer doesn't pay, then he'll get a red banner when he is
in NPB status, so no need for an extra banner BEFORE that.
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 12:24
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In Problem Order, steekstra writes:
  
When i read this all, we don't need store rules ???

You are an member with some feedback points !! and you don't have no time
to read all ??, and don't like it to read it all ??

Whow than comunication DON'T work, when you don't chance the glasses...

Steekstra

You did not read well what I wrote, I never said we don't need store rules.
And I didn't say that people should not read. What the OP is suggesting is
that once an order has been invoiced, a buyer gets a pop-up saying something
like (as such would be a real PITA IMHO)
 
 Author: RobErNat View Messages Posted By RobErNat
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 11:34
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In Problem Order, rogerrabbitt writes:

  Hello

There is some misunderstanding here i think !
I want rhe NPB's Screen affected with this message as a pre NBP procedure
warning .

No...

I'm a lazy buyer (but also a busy seller), usually pay fast (but sometimes
slow), sometimes wanna browse a store a second time(even if invoiced), so wouldn't
wanna see a stupid banner on my screen when I forget to pay.
As any seller you can send a reminder after a few days, I do the same and expect
the same from any seller before they open an NPB, no need for extra pressure,
particulary not on newbie buyers who are discovering the site.
Yes, the growth of the site involves more potential NPB's but I believe it
is still just a minority of situations.
As a matter of fact, since I slightly increased my minimum, I have less NPB's
then I had 2 years ago, most likely because there is more balance beteen ordervalue
and minimum shipping.
 Author: BLUSER_236118 View Messages Posted By BLUSER_236118
 Posted: Dec 1, 2013 10:15
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In Problem Order, Brickwilbo writes:
  In Suggestions, rogerrabbitt writes:
  Hello

I just want to ask if its only me facing an increasing amount of members not
paying their dues ?

What about a popup window for NPBs in spe as a remlnder which comes before a
NPB procedure ?

Like "Hello 1 or more order(s) are still pending for payment " blinking all
around the Display !


Just my opinion !

Peter-Markus

Already exists: http://www.bricklink.com/mySettings.asp



Hello

There is some misunderstanding here i think !
I want rhe NPB's Screen affected with this message as a pre NBP procedure
warning .
 Author: Brickwilbo View Messages Posted By Brickwilbo
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In Suggestions, rogerrabbitt writes:
  Hello

I just want to ask if its only me facing an increasing amount of members not
paying their dues ?

What about a popup window for NPBs in spe as a remlnder which comes before a
NPB procedure ?

Like "Hello 1 or more order(s) are still pending for payment " blinking all
around the Display !


Just my opinion !

Peter-Markus

Already exists: http://www.bricklink.com/mySettings.asp