Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | normann1974  | | Posted: | Feb 4, 2019 15:55 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| | | I think the reddish brown brick with old style clip is a valid variant. When
I sought out documentation for my claims, I believe I saw an unboxing video or
gallery that showed the old variant, but I don't remember which it was.
/Jan
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I found it and have made an extra request.
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1128168
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Feb 4, 2019 15:51 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 14 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Screenshots from unboxing video.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Feb 4, 2019 15:51 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 30237b Reddish Brown Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Vertical Clip (thick open O clip) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 1 Part Reddish Brown {30237b Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Vertical Clip (thick open O clip) to 30237 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Vertical Clip} {match ID 0 to 1}
Comments from Submitter:
Unboxing video here. I'll post picture in forum as follow-up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4lpNuzX5c
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Feb 4, 2019 12:15 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | | | They weren't reverted. I changed the pieces you added to be the regular parts
in the main inventory. I found a lot of evidence on this set, and I believe that
the other versions that were in the main inventory were never in the set so removed
them.
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I think the reddish brown brick with old style clip is a valid variant. When
I sought out documentation for my claims, I believe I saw an unboxing video or
gallery that showed the old variant, but I don't remember which it was.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Feb 4, 2019 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| | | They weren't reverted. I changed the pieces you added to be the regular parts
in the main inventory. I found a lot of evidence on this set, and I believe that
the other versions that were in the main inventory were never in the set so removed
them.
Randy
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Ah, thanks for clearing it up.
BTW - I still haven't found documentation of the dome tops with hollow studs.
But I'm convinced that the set came with these - either originally or as
a variant.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Feb 4, 2019 07:53 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Why were these changes first accepted, then reverted?
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 31, 2019 06:01 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 8663-1 | | Viewed: | 19 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3020pb01 Dark Bluish Gray Plate 2 x 4 With Vertical Silver Stripes on Short Edge Pattern (Sticker) - Set 8663 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
Stickered part can only be seen in product image.
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 20:19 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, randyf writes:
| | In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Pearl Light Gray {48729 Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw to 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw, Cut Edges and Hole on Side}
Comments from Submitter:
The current picture doesn't correspond with the part type. The bar has a hole in the picture (part 48729b). So what's the correct thing to do? Change the inventory, change the picture, or allow both types by adding a note? I have not found evidence that warrant changing the picture or adding a note. In fact, I'm not even sure that part 48729 exists in PLG. Only a few sellers that claim to have it. I have never seen the part in PLG, not even in lots that contain this torso. Noone has been able to supply a photo of it either. But there is evidence of 48729b in this minifig. Unboxing can be found here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3198401
I therefore request an inventory change. If this is approved, I think minifig agt016 should be changed also.
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My minifig also has the newer style clip, so I have a feeling this part does
not exist in PLG in the older style.
Here is what I think happened. The torso above was added to the catalog in 2008,
and the member who supplied the image is the same person who submitted the torso
to the catalog. Therefore, I believe that the image for the torso is the original
image submitted with the torso. The newer style clip was not added to the catalog
until 2010, so this torso entry could not have had the newer style added to it
in 2008. Once the newer style clip was added to the catalog, no one ever went
back and adjusted this minifigure and the corresponding inventories.
I think this change is correct based on all of the evidence I have at my disposal.
Request accepted.
Cheers,
Randy
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I'm convinced that many sets from that period are not correct about the old
style clip in their inventories. In a large lot of sets I've found only few
parts with old style clips, but to make the sets complete according to BrickLink
inventories, I had to buy a lot of old style clips, because the new clip style
were not valid alternates, and I'm left with many extra new clip style parts
from the lot that I can't use. I believe this is the result of the old part
was never made "undetermined" like I've complained about for other parts
that I know result in wrong inventories but can't document because I don't
have sealed copies or sets that were never mixed with other bricks.
BTW - same issue arises for groove/no groove style cones in set 8630. The set
was in a large lot, but only one metallic silver cone WITH groove was found.
All pictures on Brickshelf show the cone with groove, but they don't show
any sealed bags, so I can't document that they're sealed sets and therefore
probably can't convince anyone to accept a change to change the cone or
allow the grooved variant as alternate. But my guess is that the set never came
with ungrooved variant like it's shown in the product image.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 17:07 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 16 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Picture from unboxing.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 30, 2019 17:06 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Part 973pb0489c01 | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 1 Part Pearl Light Gray {48729 Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw to 48729b Bar 1L with Clip Mechanical Claw, Cut Edges and Hole on Side}
Comments from Submitter:
The current picture doesn't correspond with the part type. The bar has a hole in the picture (part 48729b). So what's the correct thing to do? Change the inventory, change the picture, or allow both types by adding a note? I have not found evidence that warrant changing the picture or adding a note. In fact, I'm not even sure that part 48729 exists in PLG. Only a few sellers that claim to have it. I have never seen the part in PLG, not even in lots that contain this torso. Noone has been able to supply a photo of it either. But there is evidence of 48729b in this minifig. Unboxing can be found here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=3198401
I therefore request an inventory change. If this is approved, I think minifig agt016 should be changed also.
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2019 17:39 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Screenshots from unboxing video.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 28, 2019 17:38 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 41055-1 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 2714b Light Bluish Gray Bar 8L with Stop Rings and Pin (Technic, Figure Accessory Ski Pole) - Flat End (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Add 1 Part 30237b Reddish Brown Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Vertical Clip (thick open O clip) (Alternate) (match ID 2)
* Change 2 Part Light Bluish Gray 2714a Bar 8L with Stop Rings and Pin (Technic, Figure Accessory Ski Pole) - Rounded End {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 1 Part Reddish Brown 30237 Brick, Modified 1 x 2 with Vertical Clip {match ID 0 to 2}
Comments from Submitter:
I bought this set used with these alternates. I've found an unxboxing/build video that confirm them. Included in this set were also part 553c but I can't find any unboxing videos or pictures that clearly show the studs, so I won't change those in the inventory at this point. But if anyone could help, I would be very glad, because I'm convinced this set was never mixed with other bricks. Video screenshots will be posted in forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jrLwhauK_c
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2019 08:15 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7743-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| Screenshots from unboxing video.  |
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 25, 2019 08:12 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7743-1 | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 3 Part White {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
* Change 1 Part White {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
Unboxing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU5jwoVg3JE
Screenshots will be posted as response in forum.
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2019 17:32 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7992-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| In Inventories Requests, normann1974 writes:
| | Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Dark Bluish Gray {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
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Picture from unboxing:
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 22, 2019 17:31 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7992-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 4 Part Dark Bluish Gray {2453 Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Undetermined Stud Type to 2453a Brick 1 x 1 x 5 - Blocked Open Stud or Hollow Stud}
Comments from Submitter:
Unboxing here: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=4237417
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 14, 2019 06:32 | | Subject: | Re: Correct handling of 18904c01pb01 | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Please take a look at:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=18904c01pb01&in=S
The crocodile consists of 4 parts and doesn't come assembled (at least not
in set 60157 which I just parted out). So isn't the correct way to include
the four parts in the inventories and the complete assembly as a counterpart
for all sets in the above list?
/Jan
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You are correct. The pieces that come in the set should be included in the inventory
with the complete animal in the counterparts.
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I'd love to fix this, but your response contradicts what two other admins
say in this thread. I'll let you all agree before I do anything.
/Jan
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My response doesn't matter if the admins contradict it. But you will see
that Russell didn't exactly contradict me. He said they belong there, but
they just can't go there for the moment.
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But just because the part-out system doesn't work like some people want to,
I don't see that as a reason not to make the inventories consistent. That
work can already be done now, and I have even offered to do it.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2019 15:00 | | Subject: | Re: Correct handling of 18904c01pb01 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Please take a look at:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=18904c01pb01&in=S
The crocodile consists of 4 parts and doesn't come assembled (at least not
in set 60157 which I just parted out). So isn't the correct way to include
the four parts in the inventories and the complete assembly as a counterpart
for all sets in the above list?
/Jan
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You are correct. The pieces that come in the set should be included in the inventory
with the complete animal in the counterparts.
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I'd love to fix this, but your response contradicts what two other admins
say in this thread. I'll let you all agree before I do anything.
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2019 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: Correct handling of 18904c01pb01 | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| My question was not related to part-out but about consistency between the inventories.
Isn't that important?
/Jan
| | Unfortunately, counterparts don't display on the part-out page. Until that
is changed I think things like this must be left as is.
In Catalog, normann1974 writes:
| | Please take a look at:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=18904c01pb01&in=S
The crocodile consists of 4 parts and doesn't come assembled (at least not
in set 60157 which I just parted out). So isn't the correct way to include
the four parts in the inventories and the complete assembly as a counterpart
for all sets in the above list?
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2019 11:48 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 60160-1 | | Viewed: | 15 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Change 2 Part Black {44301 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End (undetermined type) to 44301b Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 1 Finger On End without Bottom Groove}
* Change 2 Part Black {44302 Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End (Undetermined Type) to 44302a Hinge Plate 1 x 2 Locking with 2 Fingers on End with Bottom Groove}
Comments from Submitter:
Variants found during part-out.
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 13, 2019 10:06 | | Subject: | Correct handling of 18904c01pb01 | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Please take a look at:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemIn.asp?P=18904c01pb01&in=S
The crocodile consists of 4 parts and doesn't come assembled (at least not
in set 60157 which I just parted out). So isn't the correct way to include
the four parts in the inventories and the complete assembly as a counterpart
for all sets in the above list?
/Jan
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 9, 2019 07:37 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 7944-1 | | Viewed: | 18 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 30350cpb034 Dark Bluish Gray Dark Bluish Gray Tile, Modified 2 x 3 with 2 Clips (thick U clips) with 6 Black Rivets on Silver Tread Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 7944 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
See https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1123435
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2019 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: Inventory Change Request for Set 7944-1 | | Viewed: | 17 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests | |
| | Pictures from unboxing. |
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| Author: | normann1974 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2019 13:36 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 10259-1 | | Viewed: | 13 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 892pb032 Dark Green Road Sign Clip-on 2 x 2 Triangle with Level Crossing Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2431pb555 White Tile 1 x 4 with 'BUS 318' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 2431pb554 Sand Green Tile 1 x 4 with 'TICKETS' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 6636pb176 Dark Bluish Gray Tile 1 x 6 with 'WINTER VILLAGE' Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 3068bpb1203 Black Tile 2 x 2 With 'Café O Sleigh' and Menu Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 87079pb546 Black Tile 2 x 4 with 'WINTER VILLAGE' and Train Schedule Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
* Add 1 Part 4346pb28 Red Container, Box 2 x 2 x 2 Door with Slot and Gold Mail Horn Pattern (Sticker) (Counterpart)
* Add 2 Part 3069bpb688 White Tile 1 x 2 with Groove with 'JH-0049' License Plate Pattern (Sticker) - Set 10259 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
References to sticker application:
892pb032 book 1 page 13 (x2)
2431pb555 book 1 page 38
2431pb554 book 2 page 30
6636pb176 book 2 page 43
3068bpb1203 book 2 page 26
87079pb546 book 2 page 60 (x2)
4346pb28 book 2 page 12
3069bpb688 book 1 page 37+book 1 page 40
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