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 Author: Johan.V.D. View Messages Posted By Johan.V.D.
 Posted: Jun 10, 2016 16:19
 Subject: Re: Show prices and stores in Wanted List
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, Classicsmiley writes:
  Per this exchange, I am formally asking for prices and stores to be shown again
in the Wanted List. Please vote!

My email to bugs@bricklink.com:
  I am unable to see prices in my wanted list, and it takes many, many more
clicks to actually be able to find any shops with the parts that I want. I
depend on this feature, and need the old functionality restored as quickly
as possible.

Yesterday this page ( http://www.bricklink.com/wantedView.asp?wantedMoreID=
) allowed me to have access to some of the functionality I needed, but it
now redirects to the new, broken wanted list.

Please fix the wanted list.

Response from Bricklink:
  Unfortunately this is not currently a function of the new wanted list feature. I am very sorry that you are not satisfied with the new wanted list feature. We provided users with the opportunity to provide feedback during our preview launch and have since applied much of that feedback. The redirect link was a bug and should not have ever led to the old pages. I understand that learning an entirely new feature can be a bit daunting and would be more than happy to help you with specific tasks if I am able. However, if you have any specific suggestions you would like to provide about how we can improve the wanted list please feel free to post them on the Suggestions topic of the Discussion Forum. This way other users that feel similarly can vote on these changes. This will be the most efficient way to get them addressed. Thank you!

Sincerely,
BrickLink Quality Assurance

Sorry, just a small time buyer.. not going to run after / lose time explaining
to helpdesks.. or explaining to code writers why I am not placing orders only
because I cannot work with my wanted list as I used to do anymore..
My voice ( or silence) is the missing sound of the euros I am (not) putting
on the table.. sorry sellers
 Author: Johan.V.D. View Messages Posted By Johan.V.D.
 Posted: Sep 12, 2012 08:14
 Subject: Re: Please add a step to form the contract
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 Topic: Suggestions
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In Suggestions, Thunor writes:
   Dealing with stores with unreasonable terms
- that only become clear after being invoiced.

I would like to propose an extra simple step to the process of forming the contract:
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step 1: - buyer clicks "complete order" (was submit order) - usually without
foreknowledge of invoice total (some stores, including mine make it clear but
a vast number do not)

step 2: - seller sends buyer invoice with demand for payment which now reveals
all the "extra's" that may have been hidden.

and the new step:- (ADD new "button" accept/decline)
step 3: - buyer either accepts invoice and makes payment, or declines - this
would give the buyer the option to not accept unreasonable fees.

Please consider this solution as I believe the only ones who would vote against,
would be stores that HAVE hidden fees.

"Extra work"? do bare in mind a buyer has spent some time forming the order,
very few fall thru (not one for me yet), they are only likely to pull out due
to unreasonable fees in the first place!
Having low prices and high added fees isn't the best business model for anybody.

I am aware of the demands from Germany - perhaps that would form the Global model?

Thank you Graham

Contrary to most posters here, and looking at it from a buyers not seller perspective,
at first sight I would vote in favour of something as proposed.
However I do understand the concerns as stated by most sellers : the work it
takes to pull and pack an order, the danger of being hit by fun-buyers, the NPB
flagging being the only real defence and policing tool against this..
Afterall, though sales are called "binding contracts" here, in fact they only
are inside the bricklink world. Consumer rights and legislation about on-line
selling would probably most of the time concur if a buyer decides not to continue
the sale after receiving the invoice. Specially when dealing with a "professional"
seller.
But bricklink being and operating as it is, some house rules are needed in order
to continue functioning this way.
So I guess the proposition is not a good idea. BL needs tools to flagg people
that dont play by the rules (NPB etc..) and based on that eventually ban them.
The proposition as presented by OP gives the posibility to stay under the radar.

However, I think it wouldnt hurt to take a look at the motifs why the OS proposed
to implement his system. The misunderstandings that sometimes arise about the
full amount to pay when closing a deal.
Many posters above claim that their fees are clearly stated in their TOS, and
that buyers should read them first before submitting an order. And while everybody
of course supposes their TOS is clear on things (of course, because seller did
write it himself), several times it isn't.
Personally I never was confronted with additional costs (a lot) higher then I
expected, but I must say that I already turned away from several shops, just
because their TOS was a headache to read through, or wasnt realy clear at at
all, or difficult to compare with other shops..
I think it would help a lot if there was, or all buyers used, a kind of standard
TOS page. With that I dont mean they all need to state the same TOS rules, but
it would help buyers a lot if rules were structured and (additional) fees were
listed in a uniform way.
So once you understand a TOS page, you wouldnt have to figure it all out again
for the next shop you visit. It would just come down to comparing some figures...

just my 2 cent..