Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | elclair  | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 16:10 | | Subject: | Identify old Lego piece | | Viewed: | 112 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hey all.
I bought a crate of used Lego and found a few of these pieces I can't identify
(or seem to find in the bricklink Catalog) It's a hollow brick with "Lego"
printed in the studs.(no reference number)
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| Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 14:33 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
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(There might still be problems though. Say, a buyer parts out a set into a WL,
they are asked if they allow other variants, they accept because they think it
will be cheaper and easier to fullfil, but the set really can only be built with
the one variant  )
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This part is the one that would potentially cause issues. Things like the variations
of 3933/3934 that can cause parts to physically not attach in some scenarios.
That's the first I can think of just because I've experienced it in the
past.
Josh
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 14:05 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
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Thank you for the explanations. I agree that some times, or for some people it
can be useful, but i believe that most of the time it isn't. As suggested,
I think that there should be an option to do a general search for wantlists or
in store, choose if you care about variants or not.
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The database isn’t made for this, and the only way now is to have “undetermined”
variants, which just adds another variant, fouls the price guide, and makes half
the buyers unhappy.
What would be nice would be “virtual undetermined parts,” and inventories and
sellers should still have to use the determined variants but searches and WLs
wouldn’t.
(There might still be problems though. Say, a buyer parts out a set into a WL,
they are asked if they allow other variants, they accept because they think it
will be cheaper and easier to fullfil, but the set really can only be built with
the one variant )
But that means modifying the database and the site too deeply, at least for now….
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| Author: | nectara | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 13:39 | | Subject: | Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
| | There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.
Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.
Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.
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I voted no.
They are MOC's not officials Lego sets.
Regards
Nectara
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| Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 13:29 | | Subject: | Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
| | There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.
Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.
Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.
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From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.
Josh
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They're still more official than BrickArms, which is also in the catalog...
Plus, the whole "exciting" part about the whole project, according to BL itself,
is the fact that it's an official cooperation with the LEGO Group.
So yes, I definitely see the irony.
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I objected to adding BrickArms as well, for what it's worth. Fat lot of good
that did 
Josh
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| Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 13:07 | | Subject: | Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Suggestions, mhortar writes:
| | In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
| | There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.
Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.
Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.
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From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.
Josh
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They're still more official than BrickArms, which is also in the catalog...
Plus, the whole "exciting" part about the whole project, according to BL itself,
is the fact that it's an official cooperation with the LEGO Group.
So yes, I definitely see the irony.
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| Author: | brikomania | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 13:06 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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Thank you for the explanations. I agree that some times, or for some people it
can be useful, but i believe that most of the time it isn't. As suggested,
I think that there should be an option to do a general search for wantlists or
in store, choose if you care about variants or not.
Many buyers ask if i have a part, for example, a 1 x 1 with clip, and I do, but
they had the O clip in their wanted lists, and i had the U clip, but they didn't
care for either.
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| Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 12:55 | | Subject: | Re: Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Suggestions, Brick.Door writes:
| | There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.
Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.
Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.
|
From what I understand from reading about these sets, these aren't going
to be officially recognized LEGO sets. If that's the case, I don't feel
like they belong in the catalog. Someone will post the inventory somewhere (from
what I understand, it happens with most popular MOCs), so there is nothing stopping
a buyer from creating their own wanted list and purchase the parts without having
the set in the catalog.
Josh
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| Author: | Brick.Door | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 12:46 | | Subject: | Allow AFOLs to "Bricklink" the ADP sets | | Viewed: | 194 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| There are no plans to do so, but I hope that once the regular sales period is
finished Bricklink allows the inventory of these sets to be added to the catalog
so people can add them to a want list and buy the parts they need to build them.
Since they use mostly common parts, I think many AFOLs would prefer to build
them with the parts in their own collection, and just buy any ones they are missing.
Not only would this generate revenue for Bricklink by increased sales, it would
be an olive branch to the sellers who have been completely excluded from this
promotion.
Bricklink has done so much to build the AFOL community and it has become a verb
within our vocabulary (much like Google has in the general population). It would
be a sad irony if the sets created by Bricklink to celebrate AFOLs cannot be
Bricklinked by AFOLs.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.
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I guess it does in a way as you can search for "arch 1 x 6 x 2 -curved -pattern"
if you don't care which one you get, but it only really works for searches
and not wants lists. So yes having a metadata tag to link them would be good.
Same for a number of other parts with minor variations that may be inconsequential
for some people but important for others.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:42 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).
I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
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but I finally was able to read this mold number 
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Cheater
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:36 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).
I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
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but I finally was able to read this mold number
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:28 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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It would be nice if the catalog had the sophistication to have a metapart that
would collect listings of all three in a search if someone really didn't
care which.
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 10:27 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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Or a light piped thingamajig if you happen to be an entomologist (which is kind
of cheating).
I thought about buying an otoscope the other day so I could see the part number
on the giraffe guy's hat. Then I thought that might be a sign of obsession.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 08:38 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 89 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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There is a reason for the multiple entries, and that reason is because LEGO made
three variations of that part with different purposes in mind for each one. Some
of the builds that use one variation of the arch cannot be built using either
of the other two.
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 08:08 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, dearlydeparted writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
|
To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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You can always check mold number molded on the part's underside, magnifying
glass maybe needed.
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| Author: | dearlydeparted | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 08:02 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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To me, yes. I have never been able visually to distinguish the difference between
the two without reinforcement - medium think - thin. I just don't see it,
try as I might.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 07:48 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, yorbrick writes:
| | In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
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Three variants. Don’t exaggerate, you’re showing them
* | | 3307 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thick Top with Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch |
* | | 15254 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Medium Thick Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch |
* | | 12939 Arch 1 x 6 x 2 - Thin Top without Reinforced Underside
Parts: Arch |
| | | | I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.
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Yes, the variants are important:
1. You can fit some parts under the thin and medium thick parts that you can’t
fit under the thick one. E.g.
2. Collectors find it very important to get the right variant.
The odd part here would be the thin one: it was short lived (a year). Too fragile?
Too thin (it leaves a noticeable gap)?
Anyway, it’s here and came before the medium thick and was already in the catalogue
(2013) when the medium thick version was spotted / included in the catalogue
(2016).
There was no reason to merge thin and medium thick then and there’s no much reason
to do it now as we would still need to keep the old one.
Wouldn’t it be as confusing to have a “thick” version and “more or less thin”
one?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 06:34 | | Subject: | Re: Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brikomania writes:
| | I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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The thin / thick thing is described in the notes, and mm dimensions given. Personally,
the difference between the old and new style (with/without the reinforcement)
is enough, but I I can understand why the different variants are there.
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| Author: | brikomania | | Posted: | Feb 12, 2019 06:29 | | Subject: | Aren't these differences ridiculous? | | Viewed: | 331 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| I really like the extensive catalog, and think that most of the differences (like
the jumpers or tiles with groove, etc) are really useful.
But when you get to things like this, with a 1 x 2 x 6 arch, having something
like 4 variants, doesn't it make it too hard for sellers AND buyers?
I get the raised arch difference, that is notable, but this thin/thick thing?
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| Author: | palenjo | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2019 16:27 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 341-1 | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 4 Part 445a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Left with Thin Handle (Alternate)
* Add 4 Part 446a Blue Door 1 x 3 x 4 Right with Thin Handle (Alternate)
Comments from Submitter:
I only want to add 445a and 446a as alternative part. If you look at the instructions and the box it could very well be the door with thin handle. Since you don't have 445a and 446a as a part in any inventory list, I cannot find the item id. This would affect all sets with doors 3188, 3189, 3195, 3194, 445 and 446, to have the door with thin handle as alternative. Regards, Johan
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 11, 2019 01:14 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 20017-1 | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 4085d Black Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 4 (thick open O clip) (Alternate) (match ID 1)
* Change 2 Part Black 4085b Plate, Modified 1 x 1 with Clip Vertical - Type 2 (thin U clip) {match ID 0 to 1}
* Change 2 Part Black {3794 Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud (Jumper) (Undetermined Type) to 3794a Plate, Modified 1 x 2 with 1 Stud without Groove (Jumper)}
Comments from Submitter:
From sealed set contents. I got one each of 4085b and 4085d.
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| Author: | weporter | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 18:44 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6842-1 | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 2 Part 3040 White Slope 45 2 x 1 (Alternate) (match ID 3)
Comments from Submitter:
As per my recent submission re: 3943b, I also note that in my two sets the 45 2x1 slopes have bottom tubes (3040). Again, with the last known use of 3040a being 1981, and the earliest use of 3040 being 1977, it makes sense that later production runs of 6842 which had low attachment modified plates and axle hole cones would also have 3040.
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| Author: | OLarsen | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 16:03 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 5875-1 | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 4150pb071 White Tile, Round 2 x 2 with Tomato, Cheese and Cucumber Pattern (Sticker) - Sets 5875 / 5876 (Counterpart)
Comments from Submitter:
This set is the same as 5876, and this part is a counterpart in both.
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| Author: | weporter | | Posted: | Feb 10, 2019 15:29 | | Subject: | Inventory Change Request for Set 6842-1 | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Inventories Requests (Entry) | | Status: | Open | |
| Please make changes to the following inventory:
* Add 1 Part 3943b Black Cone 4 x 4 x 2 with Axle Hole (Alternate) (match ID 2)
Comments from Submitter:
I had a pair of these since childhood and recently disassembled and bagged them for storage. Both had the axle hole version of the large cones, which is corroborated in terms of timeline by the already confirmed existence in 6890 and 6929. Both sets also contained 3839b, which implies they were from a later production run.
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