Redisplay Messages: Compact | Brief | All | Full Show Messages: All | Without Replies| Author: | grimsbricksuk  | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2018 10:35 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig for Black VIP gift | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In the UK they’re issuing a redeemable code via email to be used on an online
only purchase.
In Catalog, superchicken77 writes:
| | I don't see that promotion and I bought mine in Dec of last year. Is there
some special way of unlocking it?
In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | What are people’s thoughts on the minifig that comes with the black VIP card
display promo set being offered from today, would it be classed as a SW minifig
or something else?
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| Author: | superchicken77 | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2018 10:21 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig for Black VIP gift | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| I don't see that promotion and I bought mine in Dec of last year. Is there
some special way of unlocking it?
In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | What are people’s thoughts on the minifig that comes with the black VIP card
display promo set being offered from today, would it be classed as a SW minifig
or something else?
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2018 09:37 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig for Black VIP gift | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | What are people’s thoughts on the minifig that comes with the black VIP card
display promo set being offered from today, would it be classed as a SW minifig
or something else?
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Maybe "Star Wars Other" like Yoda NY I heart and all the dressed-up Xmas characters.
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| Author: | grimsbricksuk | | Posted: | Dec 7, 2018 09:30 | | Subject: | Minifig for Black VIP gift | | Viewed: | 113 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| What are people’s thoughts on the minifig that comes with the black VIP card
display promo set being offered from today, would it be classed as a SW minifig
or something else?
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| Author: | irregular | | Posted: | Dec 6, 2018 13:09 | | Subject: | 8862 Backhoe version 1 and 2 and Bricklink | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Hello,
I remember having the 8862 Backhoe version 1 when I was young and I still have
a couple of yellow top pneumatics. I rebuilt this old set with black top pneumatics
which would make it version 2, with instructions. That being said, I have been
unable to find an entry for the old version which is slightly different to the
one on Bricklink, it turns out the manuals were different (when adding electronic
motors).
My questions are:
Does Bricklink have versions of sets that would make the 8862 entry more correct?
It is currently a mix of old and new.
Does anyone have a 8862 Backhoe PDF instructions of the old version 1 that I
can have or buy? The usual websites only have version 2 but I want to have the
older one.
Thank you.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 6, 2018 13:00 | | Subject: | Re: What is the purpose of this listing? | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, littlepb writes:
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Does anyone know what this piece is and what it does?
Thanks!
LittlePlasticBrick
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https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1113058
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| Author: | littlepb | | Posted: | Dec 6, 2018 12:55 | | Subject: | What is the purpose of this listing? | | Viewed: | 175 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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Does anyone know what this piece is and what it does?
Thanks!
LittlePlasticBrick
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| Author: | jagaboo | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 14:21 | | Subject: | Re: Part #30027u - Wheel 8mm D. x 9mm (for Slicks | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| Never mind!!! I figured it out...SORRY!!
In Catalog, jagaboo writes:
| | Notice the image of Part 30027u, showing 3 views of the part. The bottom view
of it doesn’t have any notches. All my 30027u’s look like this...no notches.
Looking at the photo of all the other similar parts, all versions are notched.
Shouldn't 30027u remain or be given a different part number?
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| Author: | jagaboo | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 14:17 | | Subject: | Part #30027u - Wheel 8mm D. x 9mm (for Slicks | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
| Notice the image of Part 30027u, showing 3 views of the part. The bottom view
of it doesn’t have any notches. All my 30027u’s look like this...no notches.
Looking at the photo of all the other similar parts, all versions are notched.
Shouldn't 30027u remain or be given a different part number?
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| Author: | littlepb | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 11:34 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, mhortar writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | […]
[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
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the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set
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You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).
Josh
Josh
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I personally think that assembled hinges can be marked as new because they have
not been taken apart and if a buyer wants separated parts, they can order them
separately. Maybe there should be an option for marking the condition of inventories
as "new but assembled".
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| Author: | littlepb | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 11:12 | | Subject: | Re: Large Macaroni tile in classic blue? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Hygrotus writes:
| | In General, celloguy writes:
Isn't this part on real photo there just dark azure, but it's look like
this due to lighting condition of photo?
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I think that that's what it is
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 09:19 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | It has been sometime I am thinking about this one:
Does opening the screws (located on the top) and removing the motor housing in
order to check the production date make this old motors used? (these motors were
not sealed in any way, so opening the motor is very easy: one only need to open
the screws)
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I'd say used, as there is the possibility of damage when opening it. Of course,
you could test it by applynig power to it, but that makes it used. There will
also be minor wear on the screws, just like clicking two bricks together and
unclicking them causes wear and makes them used.
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| Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 09:17 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| | | You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).
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Just to correct that, the argument about minifigures is can a seller assemble
them and still call them new. There is no argument about can a minifigure be
new if it is assembled - the answer is clearly yes, as in some cases LEGO sells
assembled minifigures and by definition those assembled minifigures can be new
as that is how they were sold.
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| Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 07:26 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SezaR writes:
| | […]
It has been sometime I am thinking about this one:
Does opening the screws (located on the top) and removing the motor housing in
order to check the production date make this old motors used? (these motors were
not sealed in any way, so opening the motor is very easy: one only need to open
the screws)
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Well, the definition says New should have been manipulated for sorting only.
Opening isn’t sorting… unless you sort by production date 
Now, it’s about screws, not clicking plastic parts, so it’s less “Used” than,
say, removing arms from a torso, but some may see it as “Used” nonetheless.
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| Author: | Hygrotus | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 04:50 | | Subject: | Re: Large Macaroni tile in classic blue? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In General, celloguy writes:
Isn't this part on real photo there just dark azure, but it's look like
this due to lighting condition of photo?
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| Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 00:17 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | […]
[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
| | and I need
the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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It has been sometime I am thinking about this one:
Does opening the screws (located on the top) and removing the motor housing in
order to check the production date make this old motors used? (these motors were
not sealed in any way, so opening the motor is very easy: one only need to open
the screws)
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| Author: | mhortar | | Posted: | Dec 5, 2018 00:04 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | […]
[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
| | and I need
the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set
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You assembled the parts. That's literally the definition of what makes them
used (previously assembled). You can't build a set and then sell it as 'new,
only assembled once'. There was a big argument a few years ago about whether
stacking bricks/plates at the Pick-A-Brick wall made them 'used' instead
of 'new' (my opinion is yes). There's also the argument that minifigs
can't be sold as 'new' if they are assembled (I'm on the fence
about this one).
Josh
Josh
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| Author: | brox999 | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 22:31 | | Subject: | Re: 60592c01 - whos idea was this? | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Catalog, brox999 writes:
| | […]
[3930c01] is in many new sets
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Not.
The hinge brick and the hinge plate always came separated.
| | and I need
the ability to add this part to my store inventory in a new state […]
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This assembly can’t be New: you have assembled the parts yourself, that’s the
definition of Used.
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Rubbish, putting two brand new, unused parts together does not make them used.
I list the assembly as new if the parts came from a sealed set
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 21:21 | | Subject: | Re: Bored? I Need Help | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In General, StormChaser writes:
| | I am absolutely going to need help with these definitions
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I'll do:
2nd Section: F, G, H, I, J
This only leaves the 4th and 5th sections which still need to be worked on.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: 40292 minifig error | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, StormChaser writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
I need to make it clear that these are not official guidelines. I have been
working on a project to rework the catalog Help Center and the page linked to
above is a proposed page which is not yet complete or official.
The current catalog guidelines still in effect are only those on the left
side of this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21
The sections on the right side of the page are proposals and are works in progress.
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My bad, Robert. I forgot that those sections were the "work in progress" ones.
The section that I was referencing about minifigures being added to the catalog
in your new version contains the same basic information as the old version but
worded in a much friendlier way. Therefore, everything that I posted is not
affected by which version someone references.
The page I should have referred to was https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=71
Cheers,
Randy
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| Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 18:04 | | Subject: | Re: 40292 minifig error | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Well, I actually agree with yorbrick the "boy" should be added to the catalog.
I understand the Bricklink catalog follows the instructions and that is a good
and smart choice, but how far will we go? When I saw the set my first thought
was like "only a girl? oh wait a sec, there's the boy hair" and the box literally
has the boy on the side of the box. To me the hair seems off on the dad and he's
not shown that way either. Nor is it logical that a minifig has an extra piece
to make a marginally different minifig with no different meaning. The torso of
the child is clearly unisex (if not boyish) so in my opinion everything points
to the hairpiece being intended for the child.
If so, it begs the question if we really want to stick 100% to the instructions
in every case. I think at least adding minfigs that are shown on the box as alternates
is not such a stretch.
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I think you are not asking for what we ultimately want, perhaps because you are
aware that it is as far as we can get without the programmers getting involved.
What we ultimately want is to be able to put alternates into minifig inventories.
There are quite a LOT of minifigs the last few years that come with a hair and
a hat, usually pictured somewhere with each. I think it would clutter things
up a lot. Look at [s-60134-1] and . They have a certain way they
are designed to go, but the instructions show some pictures of them all mixed
and matched, legs, torsos, heads and hair. They each have 15 minifigs. How
many variants does that inventory need to have in it?
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| Author: | StormChaser | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 17:38 | | Subject: | Re: 40292 minifig error | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, randyf writes:
I need to make it clear that these are not official guidelines. I have been
working on a project to rework the catalog Help Center and the page linked to
above is a proposed page which is not yet complete or official.
The current catalog guidelines still in effect are only those on the left
side of this page:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?topicID=21
The sections on the right side of the page are proposals and are works in progress.
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 13:28 | | Subject: | Re: 40292 minifig error | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Nor is it logical that a minifig has an extra piece
to make a marginally different minifig with no different meaning.
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And that is what we refer to as the "slippery slope". 
Randy
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| Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Dec 4, 2018 13:24 | | Subject: | Re: 40292 minifig error | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
| In Catalog, Teup writes:
| | Well, I actually agree with yorbrick the "boy" should be added to the catalog.
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Your opinion has been noted and future admin teams may decide to go in that direction.
However, the current admin team on both the catalog and inventory sides had discussions
and agreed on how to proceed in this situation. I do not see that changing for
the foreseeable future.
| | I understand the Bricklink catalog follows the instructions and that is a good
and smart choice, but how far will we go?
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There are a few other situations like this that I know of from my personal collection.
In all of those cases, the current guidelines that are in place were followed
in the catalog and subsequently the inventories. So, for now, it makes sense
to keep things consistent with the guidelines to keep the catalog consistent.
| | To me the hair seems off on the dad and he's not shown that way either.
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First of all, you are assuming that it is a dad, but I do to. What is not an
assumption is that he *is* shown that way in one version of the instructions:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1117220
| | Nor is it logical that a minifig has an extra piece to make a marginally different
minifig with no different meaning.
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Since when was LEGO logical? They already had *two* attempts at this, and
according to you, they screwed up on both of them. Who are we to say that it
is not the way they intended it? Third time's a charm? 
| | The torso of the child is clearly unisex (if not boyish)
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If the torso is *clearly* unisex, then how could it be "boyish"?
| | so in my opinion everything points to the hairpiece being intended for the child.
If so, it begs the question if we really want to stick 100% to the instructions
in every case.
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As I stated above, at least for the foreseeable future, the answer is "yes".
If Robert, Ronald and Maggie want to add this topic to the Catalog Roadmap, then
I don't see why it could not be considered. I would not expect it to have
any sort of large priority, though.
Thanks for your comments,
Randy
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