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 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
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  So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.

Yes. You can go ahead.

Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?

I don't think we will know when it is done or really care if it ever is.
We just want to get as much information into the database as possible and have
a resource for all those people who want to know what comes in those little cardboard
sleeves without having to open them to sell.

Cheers,
Randy

The journey is the destination?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, axaday writes:

  So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.

Yes. You can go ahead.

Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?

I don't think we will know when it is done or really care if it ever is.
We just want to get as much information into the database as possible and have
a resource for all those people who want to know what comes in those little cardboard
sleeves without having to open them to sell.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  If I was king around here

Hmmmm
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, axaday writes:

  So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.

Yes. You can go ahead.

Do we have any way of looking for which ones we lack? At this point I realize
they are EVERYWHERE, but will we be able to tell when it is done?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Inventories, axaday writes:

  So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.

Yes. You can go ahead.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.

I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.

From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape

 
Part No: 522  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
* 
522 Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear

Added for you
 
Part No: 6002415  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6002415 with Contents
* 
6002415 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6002415 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.

As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.

So should I start uploading these? I have quite a few.
 Author: calsbricks View Messages Posted By calsbricks
 Posted: Aug 22, 2019 07:35
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In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.

I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.

From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape

 
Part No: 522  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
* 
522 Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear

Added for you
 
Part No: 6002415  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6002415 with Contents
* 
6002415 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6002415 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.

As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.

So if I understand this correctly we should use the inventory change request
for things that come in 'cardboard sleeves' 'little white boxes'
to include the printed number?

We have always keyed that straight into Google and found what was in the box
????
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
 Posted: Aug 22, 2019 07:18
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.

I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.

From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape

 
Part No: 522  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
* 
522 Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear

Added for you
 
Part No: 6002415  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6002415 with Contents
* 
6002415 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6002415 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

added normal way category
'Cardboard Sleeve'
you see how it should be numbered and named.

As for which set found write in the note form when uplodaing part then I'm
adding it to additional note. See when you enter the part entry.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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There is another one here if you need it that I happen to have on my desk.

I wasn't sure how to upload a part containing parts and how you are collating
the sets they came in.

From set 79012 contains one standard DARK RED cape

 
Part No: 522  Name: Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
* 
522 Minifigure Cape Cloth, Standard - Traditional Starched Fabric - 4.0cm Height
Parts: Minifigure, Body Wear
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 22, 2019 05:01
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  It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?

It is most definitely *not* a stupid question. If I was king around here, there
would be a place we could test this stuff without affecting the live data and
have sellers/buyers give feedback. Unfortunately, we don't have that. Maybe
we will someday...

I said stupid question mainly because if you were needing to work on the live
site (hence affecting any users that have any interaction with the sets / parts
you are changing) then the answer is very likely to be that there isn't such
a test server.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Aug 21, 2019 18:48
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:

  It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?

It is most definitely *not* a stupid question. If I was king around here, there
would be a place we could test this stuff without affecting the live data and
have sellers/buyers give feedback. Unfortunately, we don't have that. Maybe
we will someday...

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Aug 21, 2019 16:56
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?

It seems crazy that any ideas that get tried out (that do affect regular users)
need to be made on the client facing server.

(Snide: BL doesn’t even have _one_ working website. )


There was a second website where users (mainly sellers) were encouraged to go
when BL2 was to come (the new skin, the new main page, the new WLs, etc.). It
had an older version of the database, with no impact on the actual database.
Some people went there, made bug reports and remarks, and then the update was
put in production as it was and the people who didn’t go to the second site were
angry because they hadn’t known and those who went were angry too because they
weren’t heard.
And then everybody was adverse to any change. Go figure.


Anyway, the “sleeves” changes are on the catalogue, the database, not the website,
its skin and features. So that would mean the catmins would have changed a copy
of the database, then told us “eh, go see what we did,” and then we would have
had a discussion, and maybe a few back and forth, and in the end, they would
have to do all the final changes again on the real database because they don’t
have a direct access to the database and can’t write scripts or do partial saves
and partial updates and the actual database would have changed in the meanwhile
too.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Aug 21, 2019 16:13
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  A user found out while the idea was being tested in the first two days. An announcement
was planned for today or tomorrow once the initial work was done. So, a total
of maybe four days from initial work to completion of testing work to communicating
with the user base for feedback. A pretty short timetable that was interrupted
by a user that was "snooping" around.

  For this, it would have all been explained in our announcement message that did
not get a chance to materialize due to someone interrupting the process.

  Yeah, we heard that. That is why things have already been rolled back due to
the feedback. I took almost three hours of my personal time last night doing
this by myself ASAP. See, us volunteer admins can get stuff done quickly, unlike
the corporate employees. We also take the feedback we get seriously and try to
work with everyone as best we can as we try to add new things to the catalog.

  The volunteer admins have no choice but to move forward with ideas that are needed
for the catalog. We have the time and energy to try and make positive changes
for the user base. The corporate side does not. Eventually, the corporate side
will catch up (from things I have started to hear), but us volunteers have no
say and no way to do what is necessary to the code. We work in the systems we
have.

It is probably a stupid question, but does BL have a test server where such changes
can be tried out without affecting how regular users use the site or allowing
regular users to snoop or interrupt the testing of ideas?

It seems crazy that any ideas that get tried out (that do affect regular users)
need to be made on the client facing server.
 Author: Leftoverbricks View Messages Posted By Leftoverbricks
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Best reply ever! Thank you so much for this!
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Inventories, BasKrie writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:

  Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

Cheers,
Randy

Hi Randy,

The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.

Actually, yes it was. We were trying it out for an entire total of two days.

  It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.

We were implementing changes so that the user base would have something to comment
on when the idea was communicated to the user base in a couple of days. That
got sidetracked because someone noticed they were being added to the catalog
after one day. As I said, not a big deal, because we got the feedback we were
looking for earlier than planned and have made significant changes already. Also,
it had yet to cause any problems for anyone. The people that were testing the
idea came up with great constructive feedback on what was happening behind the
scenes, and that feedback was very welcomed (especially from member yorbrick).

  A user had to find out and made a comment about it.

A user found out while the idea was being tested in the first two days. An announcement
was planned for today or tomorrow once the initial work was done. So, a total
of maybe four days from initial work to completion of testing work to communicating
with the user base for feedback. A pretty short timetable that was interrupted
by a user that was "snooping" around.

  Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.

Did I mention the communication part was coming within a day or two? And am I
or Marek or Russell not communicating now? Do not confuse the BrickLink corporate
lack of communication with the volunteer admins who communicate very regularly.
Just have a search through the forums and you will see that the volunteer admins
are very present and remain accountable to the users here.

  Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.

For this, it would have all been explained in our announcement message that did
not get a chance to materialize due to someone interrupting the process.

  And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.

Yeah, we heard that. That is why things have already been rolled back due to
the feedback. I took almost three hours of my personal time last night doing
this by myself ASAP. See, us volunteer admins can get stuff done quickly, unlike
the corporate employees. We also take the feedback we get seriously and try to
work with everyone as best we can as we try to add new things to the catalog.

  Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.

The volunteer admins have no choice but to move forward with ideas that are needed
for the catalog. We have the time and energy to try and make positive changes
for the user base. The corporate side does not. Eventually, the corporate side
will catch up (from things I have started to hear), but us volunteers have no
say and no way to do what is necessary to the code. We work in the systems we
have.

  And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.

I am sorry to hear you say that. I am also annoyed at the lack of support that
I and the other volunteer admins get from corporate.

  Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.

I agree, but once again, the volunteer admins have the time and energy to try
to do things that help the user base even if the corporate side does not keep
up. We will keep trying new ideas, also, as the Catalog Roadmap lays out:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2476

Remember, this isn't a developer roadmap. It is a roadmap for things that
the volunteer admins can do and solve.

  Regards,
Bas

Thanks for your comments.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: uvt203 View Messages Posted By uvt203
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In Inventories, BasKrie writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:

  Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

Cheers,
Randy

Hi Randy,

The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.

Regards,
Bas

+1
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In Inventories, randyf writes:

  Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

Cheers,
Randy

Hi Randy,

The problem is that it was not just an idea you were trying out.
It started to be implemented without notification or explanation and caused issues
for sellers and buyers.
A user had to find out and made a comment about it.
Most of the 'whining and moaning' from the user base, not just to this
'idea' but more in general, is about not communicating to said user base.
Time and time again the user base is confronted with changes that are not always
understood and/or apreciated. In some cases the user base does not even understand
why something needs to be changed, beacause it is not allways clear what the
benefit of it is.
And as Russel said, it gives a problem in the part-out system which will have
to be fixed, someday (if ever), and that also is a point for concern.
Many things on Bricklink have been broken and a fix is never heard of. So introducing
a new idea while older broken things don't get fixed is a very big issue
for the user base.
And I know that you can't fix the broken things, but do understand that for
me (as a user) it is very annoying to see.
Russel stated that is was good for the future of Bricklink, but there are so
many things, that if ain't fixed are quite damaging for the Bricklink future
that it's sometimes better not to introduce something new before something
old is working in good order.

Regards,
Bas
 Author: tEoS View Messages Posted By tEoS
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I like the idea of adding and inventorying these boxes (especially the ones w/o
a peek hole), though I wish it could have been done years ago. Still, as they
say, better late than never.

  Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.

Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: JulieK View Messages Posted By JulieK
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In Inventories, randyf writes:

  In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.

Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.

Cheers,
Randy

Why not treat the sleeves like the rubber band holders? List them as extra items.
No harm, no foul, imo.
 
Part No: 41753  Name: Rubber Band / Belt Holder 2 x 6 x 2 1/3
* 
41753 Rubber Band / Belt Holder 2 x 6 x 2 1/3
Parts: Rubber Band & Belt
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  
  Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.

It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:

 
Part No: 6268510  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6268510 with Contents
* 
6268510 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6268510 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.

Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:

 
Part No: 6259727  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6259727 with Contents
* 
6259727 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6259727 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.

It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.


I've got a great idea! To follow suit, lets start cataloging and selling
the numbered plastic bags that the pieces come in in each box. Actually, why
stop there, lets catalog the empty collectible minifig poly bags too. After
all that's technically LEGO is it not? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!

You do realize these catalog entries are for the sealed cardboard sleeves with
contents in them, right? Because I don't think you do...

- Randy
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas

Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.

Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.

Cheers,
Randy

Hi Randy, hi everyone,

I'm sorry I preempted your planned announcement. But since you have chosen
some pretty recent or popular sets (like the VW Bus), I'm quite sure someone
else would have asked soon about these changes if I had not started the discussion.

To explain the situation from my point of view: I saw the new catalog entries
for the cardboard sleeves a few days ago. No announcement, but I didn't think
much of it. However yesterday, I was surprised to see that they started to appear
in many inventories very quickly. I checked the inventory guidelines and found
the new rule for cardboard sleeves. Again: No announcement, no explanation
or something like this. So I just wanted to share my opinion and explained why
I thought these changes are not a very good idea.

Of course I am not generally against new ideas and of course you can test and
try everything you want - but it would be very helpful to announce it before
major changes are visible in the catalog. Otherwise you have to accept that someone
will ask about them.

  In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories.

Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear.

Regards,
Jonas
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  
  Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.

It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:

 
Part No: 6268510  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6268510 with Contents
* 
6268510 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6268510 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.

Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:

 
Part No: 6259727  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6259727 with Contents
* 
6259727 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6259727 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.

It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.


I've got a great idea! To follow suit, lets start cataloging and selling
the numbered plastic bags that the pieces come in in each box. Actually, why
stop there, lets catalog the empty collectible minifig poly bags too. After
all that's technically LEGO is it not? Give me a break!!!!!!!!!
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  If you look up those axles you get told they are in 24 sets (and also 3 parts).
If I wanted to know which sets that axle came from I would naturally look at
the 24 sets but probably not look at the parts they come from. I wouldn't
find that they come in set 60051 when in reality they do.

That is actually not how the system works. If you look at the sets that these
axles come in it will still list 60051 among them even though the cardboard sleeve
is listed in the set inventory. See also other parts that are not listed individually
in set inventories but are on sprues or in multipacks. For example
 
Part No: 3742  Name: Plant Flower Small
* 
3742 Plant Flower Small
Parts: Plant
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:

  But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?

Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.

Cheers,
Randy

If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.

Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?

Yes, you have misunderstood alternates. Alternate parts are parts that are completely
substituted for other parts in a set. These sleeves come in every set they came
in.

As Russell said, we will need to wait for new functionality before we can ever
add these to inventories in a meaningful way that makes it easy for sellers to
part them.

Cheers,
Randy

Sorry I got confused. I meant actually counterpart and not alternate.

So as an example could you have
 
Part No: 4580966  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 4580966 with Contents
* 
4580966 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 4580966 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

as a counterpart to having four of these
[x1687]

???

Of course, this doesn't meet the current definition of what a counterpart
is either - although in a way it does, if you open the sleeve then you have permanently
changed it. But this would mean listing the filled sleeve as the regular unperturbed
item and the four rods as counterparts (and what to do with the empty sleeve,
throw it away like an unused sprue?).

Again I may well have it wrong, as I tend to focus on which parts LEGO gives
us rather than how LEGO packages them in the box.

I can see it is a mess, trying to fit something new(ish) around existing rules
that were not put in place to do what is needed.



If you look up those axles you get told they are in 24 sets (and also 3 parts).
If I wanted to know which sets that axle came from I would naturally look at
the 24 sets but probably not look at the parts they come from. I wouldn't
find that they come in set 60051 when in reality they do.
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:

  But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?

Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.

Cheers,
Randy

If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.

Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?

Yes, you have misunderstood alternates. Alternate parts are parts that are completely
substituted for other parts in a set. These sleeves come in every set they came
in.

As Russell said, we will need to wait for new functionality before we can ever
add these to inventories in a meaningful way that makes it easy for sellers to
part them.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:

  But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?

Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.

Cheers,
Randy

If the actual parts in the sleeve are listed in the inventory and the (sealed)
sleeves are listed as an alternate for each of the sets they are in, won't
that information already be stored in the catalogue in a meaningful way? Then
someone can look up the number on the sleeve and search for it. It won't
be in any sets as a regular part but will be listed as an alternate for all the
sets it appears in. That way, the set numbers need not be kept in the title or
as additional notes.

Or have I totally misunderstood how alternates work?
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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:

  But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?

Thank you for this suggestion. We were trying to come up with a way to not have
to repeat information in the names, but I think this idea is the easiest solution.
We will have to come up with another way to track what sets these come in in
the meantime. I am guessing the additional notes for the sleeves will probably
be the way to go.

Cheers,
Randy
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In Inventories, SezaR writes:
  There are several catalog items created for one sticker sheet. For example
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6391stk02#T=S&C=0&O={%22color%22:0,%22iconly%22:0}

Is there any plan to improve this too?

In the future, yes.
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas

Wow, people will throw an instant tirade about any new idea we try out. It is
no wonder that the corporate BrickLink employees and developers don't want
to try anything new, either. Everything that is tried receives just whinging
and moaning from the user base. I think I now have a good idea about what drove
Jaclyn away from the site.

In any case, we have heard all of the feedback and will be reversing course on
the inventories. We had planned to make an announcement in a few days concerning
this to ask for feedback on what had been done, but we wanted stuff in place
for users to look at. So this thread was not a complete loss to us, but you did
jump the gun on us, Jonas.

Please bear with us as we work out the kinks.

Cheers,
Randy
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There are several catalog items created for one sticker sheet. For example
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6391stk02#T=S&C=0&O={%22color%22:0,%22iconly%22:0}

Is there any plan to improve this too?


In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas

Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.

Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.

Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.

Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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  Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.

Too late, you are already doing it!

  Please have patience as we make some adjustments.

Why not get the partout system for sellers and buyers to handle it correctly,
then make the changes. As it is, anyone parting out a set with these sleeves
in needs to manually delete each sleeve from the part out, then go back and part
out any sleeves or similar.

Although from the comment above, I assume you don't know that these are already
being added as sleeves rather than as the component parts. If the sleeves are
added but not as regular parts, and the parts are still in the regular section,
then it is fine and easy to ignore. But that isn't the case.

Also parting out as a part doesn't work quite right. You have to select a
colour for the part to be able to part it out, even if you have already selected
Not Applicable as the colour on the part's page before parting out. So this
adds yet another click to the parting out a sleeve process.

Although shouldn't the colour of most of these sleeves be white rather than
not applicable? After all, they are white!
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In Inventories, Proprietor writes:
  In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
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  Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.

Please have patience as we make some adjustments.

And yet, inventories are being changed, and the sleeve is being added as a regular
item and its component parts deleted:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=10220-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1

Yes, there were a number of them done this way yesterday, but we'll probably
need to make an adjustment.
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In Inventories, Admin_Russell writes:
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  Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.

Please have patience as we make some adjustments.

And yet, inventories are being changed, and the sleeve is being added as a regular
item and its component parts deleted:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogInvChangeItem.asp?itemType=S&itemNo=10220-1&viewDate=Y&viewStatus=1
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In Inventories, hpoort writes:
  In Inventories, Turez writes:
  In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
  Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.

I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.

Understanding the wish for (1) having the sleeves in the catalog and thus the
need to include the in inventories somehow, and (2) leaving the functionality
of the inventories as is, brings me to a simple alternate solution:

Add the sleeves as ALTERNATE to the inventories only.

This would fall under what is currently described as the counterpart section.
  
Similar to
- a part with the sticker applied is alternate (as opposed to the stickersheet
and the plain part)
- a combination of parts that is hard to separate is alternate (as opposed
to the parts that make up the combination)
- the parts that are removed from a sprue (as opposed to the entire sprue)
and thus finally:
- a part still packed within the original sleeve (as opposed to the part without
packaging)

How about this alternative?


Hans-Peter
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
  Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.

I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.

Understanding the wish for (1) having the sleeves in the catalog and thus the
need to include the in inventories somehow, and (2) leaving the functionality
of the inventories as is, brings me to a simple alternate solution:

Add the sleeves as ALTERNATE to the inventories only.

Similar to
- a part with the sticker applied is alternate (as opposed to the stickersheet
and the plain part)
- a combination of parts that is hard to separate is alternate (as opposed
to the parts that make up the combination)
- the parts that are removed from a sprue (as opposed to the entire sprue)
and thus finally:
- a part still packed within the original sleeve (as opposed to the part without
packaging)

How about this alternative?


Hans-Peter
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas

Folks, if anything is going to improve in the catalog, we need to give some freedom
and grace to our admins so they can try things out. I can understand if people
get frustrated when they find something has changed and it no longer works for
them, but please understand that we have the long-term interests of the site
in mind, and also that we can adjust and/or reverse any decision that is made.

Regarding these sleeves, we have needed to add them to the catalog for quite
a while now, because of the need to search by the number printed on the sleeve.
Strictly speaking, this is not a PCC, but it's still a number people can
use for reference. Specifically, we want to give the ability to sellers to sell
the parts in the sleeves without having to open the sleeves. The only way they
can do this is to have a reference database showing the contents of every sleeve.

Because our partout system is not yet capable of handling subparts, we're
probably not going to be able to add these sleeves to the regular section of
inventories. Maybe if we change the image and description we can do it, but right
now sellers will end up listing things in their store that buyers cannot identify.

Please have patience as we make some adjustments.
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them.

And that was the idea to add them. We will be the only site which keeps their
references and documenting them.
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In Inventories, mwright5 writes:
  Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.

I would not say that it is stupid to have catalog entries for the cardboard sleeves.
It may be helpful to have a reference for them. But adding the whole cardboard
sleeves to set inventories instead of the included parts is something completely
different.
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  Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.

It is truly bizarre. There is this sleeve, for example:

 
Part No: 6268510  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6268510 with Contents
* 
6268510 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6268510 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

which contains two minifigure capes. However, this sleeve which is called "Cardboard
Sleeve for Set 70837" doesn't actually appear in set 70837 since it contains
minifigure parts, which are listed with the minifigures. So we now have an entry
for a part that is not included in any sets and so is unlikely to ever be listed
in that way.

Then we have the same where the sleeves contain a single cape, for example:

 
Part No: 6259727  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6259727 with Contents
* 
6259727 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6259727 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

Again it doesn't belong to any sets despite the name, since it belongs to
a minifigure.

It seems to be a case of making a rule then insisting on sticking to it for all
parts and sets, no matter how stupid the application of the rule is.
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas



Wow! Just seeing that cardboard cape boxes have been added to the catalog.
I usually would prefer to refrain from making a derogatory comment on something
so trivial, but I have to say, that is a new kind of stupid. Give me a break.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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  Is there any demand to purchase open, empty cardboard sleeves?

I don't think you can buy the empty sleeve because as soon as you open it,
you have the parts inside but the sleeve itself is not in the inventory of the
sleeve. Just as a sprue contains parts on it but not the sprue itself, a sleeve
does not contain the sleeve once opened. There is no listing for the sleeve only,
only a full (unopened) sleeve.

However, I guess some sellers will open the sleeves to check the parts inside
and sell them as new with "opened" in the comments. Although I imagine the parts
will sell better than the parts in the sleeve*. It would also be possible to
list the sleeve with comments saying "no parts inside, just the sleeve" if someone
really wanted to sell just the sleeve.

* This is where there might be a problem for wants lists. I imagine most people
putting a set together want the parts, not the parts in the sleeves. However,
parting the set out to a wants list (or parting out when selling) defaults to
the user wanting the parts in a sleeve and so they may well miss sellers that
have the parts that they want as they don't have them in the sleeve. It is
the problem of having multiple entries for the same part (or parts) just differing
in whether they are in some sort of useless packaging.
 Author: TallyToyBricks View Messages Posted By TallyToyBricks
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Like other have stated, this is not a really good idea.

I ran into this issue last night while trying to lookup some unsorted parts.
It just adds more steps to find an item.

Is there any demand to purchase open, empty cardboard sleeves?

This gets to the whole issue of Bricklink as a commerce platform versus Bricklink
as the unofficial catalog of all things LEGO. Making the catalog side more complicated
(or less intuitive) does not help the commerce side. Perhaps the commerce side
should take precedence in these type of situations.

Joe
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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This will also screw about with the price guide and wants lists, with decisions
about how to sell the part in the sleeve.

Do you sell a single part in a cardboard sleeve or do you sell it as the part?
These are two different entries with two different price guides.

It is like sets that contain a single part or minifigure - just introducing more
difficulty for users to sell / find what they want.
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   Sorry, this is just ...
 
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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Also it seems parting out sets is now broken. Will there be an option added (like
break sets in set) to break parts in sleeves / multipacks? Selecting break sets
in set does not open up the multipacks or sleeves.

Try parting out a set, and the only option seems to be to list the sleeve, not
is what is actually in the sleeve. To list the parts you now need to do that
manually.

This is a really bad decision, Bricklink! BL should make things easier for sellers
to sell parts, not make it increasingly difficult.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas


There is also an issue with the naming. For example:

 
Part No: 4580966  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 4580966 with Contents
* 
4580966 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 4580966 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

is currently called "Cardboard Sleeve for Sets 60051, 60052". It has exactly
the same name as

 
Part No: 4580964  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 4580964 with Contents
* 
4580964 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 4580964 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

But what happens when more sets come along that use this sleeve? They need to
be added to the part description. Why not just call it "Cardboard Sleeve 4580966"
removing the set names?


 
Part No: 6049732  Name: Cardboard Sleeve 6049732 with Contents
* 
6049732 (Inv) Cardboard Sleeve 6049732 with Contents
Parts: Cardboard Sleeve

already has five set numbers in the name, what will the limit be? If it appears
in 100 sets, will they all be named in the description?


And isn't a natural extension of this to catalogue, for example, bag 1 from
set XXXX, bag 2 from set XXXX, and so on (where these bags do not contain any
minifigure parts)? After all, that is how LEGO supplies them in a set. They are
not individual parts in a box, they are multiple parts in a defined bag in a
box. How big does a bag have to be before it is no longer a multipack? So when
a set contains a small bag of 1x1 parts in a larger bag, is that now considered
a multipack or is it the parts in a bag?


And what about instructions when they are supplied with a sticker sheet inside
a polythene bag and a piece of card? Is that a cardboard sleeve / multipack or
just the instructions and a sticker sheet?
 Author: Hurt View Messages Posted By Hurt
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Wow, who thought that this is a good idea and why?

By the way - many sets came with labeled plastic bags (like "1", "2", "3", etc.)
- let's add them as well and move all parts that are in it to the bag item
instead of the set. But don't forget that there are even smaller bags in
the big bags, those need to be listed as well (inside the big bag, containing
the correct parts of course)!

Sorry, this is just ...
 Author: Hygrotus View Messages Posted By Hygrotus
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In Inventories, Turez writes:
  Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas

And our suprise that we finally accepting these to the catalog has been spoiled

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?catType=P&catString=1060&itemBrand=1000

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?

They were started to be add to the catalog on Aug 17, 2019
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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Hi everyone,

is that really necessary? With these cardboard sleeves in inventories it is no
longer possible to see the complete part list at once. You always have to open
an extra inventory to look up what is inside the cardboard sleeve (or sometimes
even two or more extra inventories). Not very user-friendly, imho...

I also don't see a technical reason why cardboard sleeves should be part
of an inventory. They are not listed in official part lists and if they contain
more than one part, adding them will bring the piece count down.

Examples:
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=60052-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=10220-1
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=41381-1

New guideline: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems

Regards,
Jonas
 Author: qwertyboy View Messages Posted By qwertyboy
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In Inventories, C0lsanders_ writes:
  I have 2 (particular) orders received, only 208 difference by order number. First
order, guy buys 60 of a part. I have "Quantity left" enabled, and it says 0 left.
The next order, another guy buys 10 of the that same part, which he of course
shouldn't be able to do. Also says 0 left. I find in filling these, I do
have only the 60. What might have gone wrong? Both sets of parts in carts at
the same time, maybe?

You might know this, but just in case -

The "quantity left" will show what you have left right now, not what was left
when the order was placed. So looking at the current "quantity left" on both
orders won't tell you anything.

Niek.
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I have 2 (particular) orders received, only 208 difference by order number. First
order, guy buys 60 of a part. I have "Quantity left" enabled, and it says 0 left.
The next order, another guy buys 10 of the that same part, which he of course
shouldn't be able to do. Also says 0 left. I find in filling these, I do
have only the 60. What might have gone wrong? Both sets of parts in carts at
the same time, maybe?

Thanks,
Miles (C0lsanders_)
 Author: Teup View Messages Posted By Teup
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  In Inventories, Cheshire_Bricks writes:
  Hi,

Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?

I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)

Thank you in advance for any help!

How about manually setting the dimensions of the sets to something huge, and
then allocating a postage method for that size that's UK only. And adding
something in the comments to that effect as well.

Matt

The part will still show up in the listings however, together with a "seller
ships to me" message. It's clever but it also kind of breaks the Bricklink
interface.
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In Inventories, Cheshire_Bricks writes:
  Hi,

Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?

I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)

Thank you in advance for any help!

How about manually setting the dimensions of the sets to something huge, and
then allocating a postage method for that size that's UK only. And adding
something in the comments to that effect as well.

Matt
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In Inventories, Cheshire_Bricks writes:
  Hi,

Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?

I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)

Thank you in advance for any help!

It's not possible to differentiate.

In theory you could describe the item as for UK only and mark the item for manual
invoice and cancel orders with the item from other countries.
It would probably lead to issues, because many people don't read. You'll
get a discussion if it's a valid order.
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Hi,

Just wondering if you're able to make specific lots only available to specific
countries?

I'm looking to sell some sets but I want to set them to UK only (if you can
do this then how?)

Thank you in advance for any help!
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 Posted: Aug 14, 2019 20:21
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I little while ago I parted out
 
Set No: 3301  Name: Cargo-Loading Cranky
* 
3301-1 (Inv) Cargo-Loading Cranky
6 Parts, 2 Minifigures, 2006
Sets: DUPLO: DUPLO, Train: Thomas & Friends
and just sold
 
Part No: 41169c01  Name: Duplo Winch Drum Narrow with White String and Black Thin Hook Fixed with Stud Holder
* 
41169c01 (Inv) Duplo Winch Drum Narrow with White String and Black Thin Hook Fixed with Stud Holder
Parts: DUPLO
I just got a message from the buyer that they received Pearl Light Gray and not
Flat Silver.
I also happen to have this completed set currently listed so I checked that part
in that one. It looks like Pearl Light Gray also.
Is there someone that can verify it truly is Flat Silver in this set? I got these
in a big used lot so I can't say for sure.
At the very least just be sure to be check the colors before just parting out
a set. I unfortunately didn't.
Thanks
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In Inventories, Mistress_Lisa writes:
  In Inventories, JayEll3 writes:
  I have this piece and I don’t know what set it belongs to. I don’t even know
how to search for it. Any help would be appreciated!!

It is this part:

 
Part No: 30619  Name: Cockpit 6 x 6 x 5 with Hinge
* 
30619 Cockpit 6 x 6 x 5 with Hinge
Parts: Cockpit

According to the catalog, this part comes in 5 sets in that color. All are Jack
Stone, from the 4 Juniors collection.

Lisa

I just saw the picture you have up. That is funny. Made me smile today.
John P
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In Inventories, JayEll3 writes:
  I have this piece and I don’t know what set it belongs to. I don’t even know
how to search for it. Any help would be appreciated!!

It is this part:

 
Part No: 30619  Name: Cockpit 6 x 6 x 5 with Hinge
* 
30619 Cockpit 6 x 6 x 5 with Hinge
Parts: Cockpit

According to the catalog, this part comes in 5 sets in that color. All are Jack
Stone, from the 4 Juniors collection.

Lisa
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I have this piece and I don’t know what set it belongs to. I don’t even know
how to search for it. Any help would be appreciated!!
 
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Part No: 3245cpb106  Name: Brick 1 x 2 x 2 with Inside Stud Holder with Triangle Tombstone Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
* 
3245cpb106 Brick 1 x 2 x 2 with Inside Stud Holder with Triangle Tombstone Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 26603pb044  Name: Tile 2 x 3 with Light Bluish Gray 'TOM RIDDLE' and Scratches Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
* 
26603pb044 Tile 2 x 3 with Light Bluish Gray 'TOM RIDDLE' and Scratches Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
Parts: Tile, Decorated



These have now been added to the set inventory.

Now awaiting approval of minifig and set inventories and job should be done.

Approx. 6 hours of unpaid work leaving me with a used set. I think that'll
be my first and last inventory. But thanks for letting me try it out.

/Jan
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Should the statue in this set be considered a minifig?

/Jan

Yes
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?q=statue

Inventory work should be complete now except for two stickered parts that are
still pending.

/Jan

 
Part No: 3245cpb106  Name: Brick 1 x 2 x 2 with Inside Stud Holder with Triangle Tombstone Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
* 
3245cpb106 Brick 1 x 2 x 2 with Inside Stud Holder with Triangle Tombstone Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
Parts: Brick, Decorated
 
Part No: 26603pb044  Name: Tile 2 x 3 with Light Bluish Gray 'TOM RIDDLE' and Scratches Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
* 
26603pb044 Tile 2 x 3 with Light Bluish Gray 'TOM RIDDLE' and Scratches Pattern (Sticker) - Set 75965
Parts: Tile, Decorated

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In Inventories, Hygrotus writes:
  In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Should the statue in this set be considered a minifig?

/Jan

Yes
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?q=statue

Inventory work should be complete now except for two stickered parts that are
still pending.

/Jan
 
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Should the statue in this set be considered a minifig?

/Jan

Yes
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?q=statue
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Should the statue in this set be considered a minifig?

/Jan
 
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  BTW, I found the hat. It's part 17349 (previously only been released with
print, e.g.
 
Part No: 17349pb01  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard with Silver Stars and Gold Crescent Moon Pattern
* 
17349pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard with Silver Stars and Gold Crescent Moon Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
).

/Jan

When you have system plain part you can just add LEGO render from LEGO replacment
parts service.
 
Part No: 17349  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard
* 
17349 Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  I do think I'm capable of creating the parts/minifigs/inventory correctly,
but as previously stated, I don't know what names I should use for the parts
and minifigs, and I can't supply correct weight of all of them, neither can
I supply professional photos. I need help with that.

BTW, I found the hat. It's part 17349 (previously only been released with
print, e.g.
 
Part No: 17349pb01  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard with Silver Stars and Gold Crescent Moon Pattern
* 
17349pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard with Silver Stars and Gold Crescent Moon Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
).

/Jan

As complete minfigs check how other in Harry Potter are named then name it similar.
Names of minfigs should be also how LEGO names them on the box or in the offcial
description of set. (It is on LEGO S&H page)
https://shop.lego.com/en-PL/product/the-rise-of-voldemort-75965
"Includes 4 minifigures: Harry Potter™ with wand and Triwizard Challenge outfit,
Lord Voldemort™ with wand, Peter Pettigrew with wand and a Death Eater™."
So there you have minfig names

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&catString=227&itemBrand=1000&catType=M&v=1

as for weight it is not needed when submitting item to the catalog. Those things
are only needed to get things approved
number
name
image

and that is it.

Weight can be later added by users who can weight it.

Images also don;t need to be super professional
some examples
 
Minifig No: bio032  Name: Inika Toa Kongu
* 
bio032 Inika Toa Kongu
Minifigures: BIONICLE
 
Minifig No: frnd323  Name: Friends Stephanie - Gymnast
* 
frnd323 (Inv) Friends Stephanie - Gymnast
Minifigures: Friends
 
Minifig No: jw053  Name: Danny Nedermeyer - Flower Shirt
* 
jw053 (Inv) Danny Nedermeyer - Flower Shirt
Minifigures: Jurassic World: Legend of Isla Nublar

till we can see what item looks like it is ok.

there are many users who can later correct images to better one.

As for parts names just this advise just look how other similar parts are named
and adjust it to your part

Example one of your torso, look how other are named, there are some things which
are in all torsos names.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=973pb%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
last one as an example
 
Part No: 973pb3617c01  Name: Torso Female Ninjago Robe, Black Hem, Dark Azure Scarf, Sash and Trim Pattern / Pearl Dark Gray Arms / Black Hands
* 
973pb3617c01 (Inv) Torso Female Ninjago Robe, Black Hem, Dark Azure Scarf, Sash and Trim Pattern / Pearl Dark Gray Arms / Black Hands
Parts: Minifigure, Torso Assembly, Decor.
and template for naming torsos
Torso [here you enter describtion what pattern is on torso] Pattern / [color]
Arms / [color] Hands
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I do think I'm capable of creating the parts/minifigs/inventory correctly,
but as previously stated, I don't know what names I should use for the parts
and minifigs, and I can't supply correct weight of all of them, neither can
I supply professional photos. I need help with that.

BTW, I found the hat. It's part 17349 (previously only been released with
print, e.g.
 
Part No: 17349pb01  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard with Silver Stars and Gold Crescent Moon Pattern
* 
17349pb01 Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cone Drooping, Wizard with Silver Stars and Gold Crescent Moon Pattern
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear
).

/Jan
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  In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Hello

After having been on BL for a couple of years, both as a buyer and seller and
submitter to the catalog, I wanted to take up the challenge of making an inventory
for a set, and I chose set
 
Set No: 75965  Name: The Rise of Voldemort
* 
75965-1 (Inv) The Rise of Voldemort
157 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Harry Potter: Goblet of Fire
because I just bought it. At this point,
I have only submitted the sticker sheet to the catalog, and I'm stuck with
10 parts that seem to be new (their PCCs don't exist on BrickLink and I can't
find them through search). I have a few questions for the upcoming work.

1) Should I leave it to a professional to do all this work? I'm thinking
that I can't provide professional pictures of the new parts and I can't
name the remaining parts or supply weight for them.

2) If the answer to 1) is "no", could someone please help me identify the remaining
10 parts or provide me with good names for the parts so I can add them to the
catalog? What do I do with the weight of the parts? I don't have a weight
with the precision needed.

Attached are pictures of the 10 new parts.

/Jan

They are mostly minifigs parts, legs, torsos etc. For inventory you should add
comelete minifigures assemblies as showed in the instruction.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?itemYear=2019&catString=227&itemBrand=1000&catType=M

This baby infant should be also added as minfig
Here you have similar ones
 
Minifig No: col339  Name: Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Small Eyes Pattern (6131197)
* 
col339 Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Small Eyes Pattern (6131197)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 15 Minifigures
 
Minifig No: frnd279  Name: Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Large Eyes Pattern (Baby Ola) (6193930)
* 
frnd279 Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Large Eyes Pattern (Baby Ola) (6193930)
Minifigures: Friends

After you add those as minifigs to the set than you can do their inventories

legs:
another new printed legs for the catalog
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=970c00%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
another new printed torsos
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=973pb%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1
another new printed heads
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?pg=1&q=3626c%2A&catLike=W&itemBrand=1000&v=1

You can add them as separate parts also (by checking how they are listed in the
catalog at above links) but inv admins will require complete minifigs for this
inventory

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=199
"Minifigures - Include whole minifigures as seen in the instructions without
any hand-held accessories. Parts included in minifigures should not be included
in the Regular Items section. Sometimes a set may contain more of the same parts
found on a minifigure in the set (for example: a set includes three helmets with
castle chin guard, but only one of them is on the minifigure). In these cases
include the whole minifigure and then include any additional parts in the Regular
Items section."
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In Inventories, normann1974 writes:
  Hello

After having been on BL for a couple of years, both as a buyer and seller and
submitter to the catalog, I wanted to take up the challenge of making an inventory
for a set, and I chose set
 
Set No: 75965  Name: The Rise of Voldemort
* 
75965-1 (Inv) The Rise of Voldemort
157 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Harry Potter: Goblet of Fire
because I just bought it. At this point,
I have only submitted the sticker sheet to the catalog, and I'm stuck with
10 parts that seem to be new (their PCCs don't exist on BrickLink and I can't
find them through search). I have a few questions for the upcoming work.

1) Should I leave it to a professional to do all this work? I'm thinking
that I can't provide professional pictures of the new parts and I can't
name the remaining parts or supply weight for them.

2) If the answer to 1) is "no", could someone please help me identify the remaining
10 parts or provide me with good names for the parts so I can add them to the
catalog? What do I do with the weight of the parts? I don't have a weight
with the precision needed.

Attached are pictures of the 10 new parts.

/Jan

They are mostly minifigs parts, legs, torsos etc. For inventory you should add
comelete minifigures assemblies as showed in the instruction.
https://www.bricklink.com/catalogListOld.asp?itemYear=2019&catString=227&itemBrand=1000&catType=M

This baby infant should be also added as minfig
Here you have similar ones
 
Minifig No: col339  Name: Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Small Eyes Pattern (6131197)
* 
col339 Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Small Eyes Pattern (6131197)
Minifigures: Collectible Minifigures: Series 15 Minifigures
 
Minifig No: frnd279  Name: Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Large Eyes Pattern (Baby Ola) (6193930)
* 
frnd279 Baby / Infant - with Stud Holder on Back with Smiling Face and Large Eyes Pattern (Baby Ola) (6193930)
Minifigures: Friends
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Here's the right other side of Peter Pettigrew's head (the first two
images show the same side).
 
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Hello

After having been on BL for a couple of years, both as a buyer and seller and
submitter to the catalog, I wanted to take up the challenge of making an inventory
for a set, and I chose set
 
Set No: 75965  Name: The Rise of Voldemort
* 
75965-1 (Inv) The Rise of Voldemort
157 Parts, 6 Minifigures, 2019
Sets: Harry Potter: Goblet of Fire
because I just bought it. At this point,
I have only submitted the sticker sheet to the catalog, and I'm stuck with
10 parts that seem to be new (their PCCs don't exist on BrickLink and I can't
find them through search). I have a few questions for the upcoming work.

1) Should I leave it to a professional to do all this work? I'm thinking
that I can't provide professional pictures of the new parts and I can't
name the remaining parts or supply weight for them.

2) If the answer to 1) is "no", could someone please help me identify the remaining
10 parts or provide me with good names for the parts so I can add them to the
catalog? What do I do with the weight of the parts? I don't have a weight
with the precision needed.

Attached are pictures of the 10 new parts.

/Jan
 


 Author: Miro78 View Messages Posted By Miro78
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In Inventories, Jacerish writes:
  Pending inventory for set 75936 T.rex rampage
This set been out for a while now . Is there time scale how long it might take
.

Thank you for take in time to read this

Mark

It appears that the inventory is not pending or reserved. The minifigs are already
in the system. Someone may be planning on inventorying it, but it's not currently
reserved. Inventories are done by members and approved by the Inventories Admin.

If you just need the inventory, you can find it on Rebrickable:
https://rebrickable.com/sets/75936-1/jurassic-park-trex-rampage/#parts

and they also have the inventory just for the T-Rex:
https://rebrickable.com/sets/75936-1-s1/jurassic-park-trex-rampage-trex/#parts

if you want to build the T-Rex, do note that there are quite a few parts with
colors unique to this set, and that info can be found here:
http://www.newelementary.com/2019/06/lego-75936-jurassic-t-rex-minifigs-pieces.html

Miro
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Pending inventory for set 75936 T.rex rampage
This set been out for a while now . Is there time scale how long it might take
.

Thank you for take in time to read this

Mark
 Author: brickbox83 View Messages Posted By brickbox83
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Thanks for those replies.
I have done that but it is totally manual and long winded. That will show you
what is available but you have to search through and compare to find out what
is missing as far as I can see.
As a seller it would be good to have a report that shows what stock you have
already sold from a kit that has been parted out into your inventory.


In Inventories, brickbox83 writes:
  Hey,
Anyone know how to compare a parts list of a set (that I have previously parted
out) with my current inventory of parts in that set to see what parts have already
sold.
Thanks.
Brickbox83
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
 Posted: Jul 31, 2019 16:38
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In Inventories, InqMikhailovich writes:
  ...Thanks...?

Oh, no need. It was no trouble.

I see it can be had for 20% off now. I will be at the store this evening and
I'll evaluate again.
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In Inventories, InqMikhailovich writes:
  The Spider-Man: Far From Home set 76130 Stark Jet and the Drone Attack currently
has "N/A" listed as its inventory, while all three other Spider-Man: Far From
Home sets have inventories available. Is there a reason for this?

When someone who owns the set decides to submit the inventory to BrickLink, it
will become available. Until that time, it will remain as not completed.

Cheers,
Randy
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...Thanks...?
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In Inventories, InqMikhailovich writes:
  The Spider-Man: Far From Home set 76130 Stark Jet and the Drone Attack currently
has "N/A" listed as its inventory, while all three other Spider-Man: Far From
Home sets have inventories available. Is there a reason for this?

It is because I didn't think the plane was very cool and I didn't buy
it.
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The Spider-Man: Far From Home set 76130 Stark Jet and the Drone Attack currently
has "N/A" listed as its inventory, while all three other Spider-Man: Far From
Home sets have inventories available. Is there a reason for this?
 
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In Inventories, VOTB writes:
  If you put all the items you want into a "want list" you can visit your own store
and see what parts you have that are on that want list.

At the top of the page under your "Shop," "Terms," and "Feedback" tabs you will
see "Wanted List." If you click on that you can cycle through your want lists
and see what you have.

And you can part out a set in a WL here: https://www.bricklink.com/v2/wanted/partout.page
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If you put all the items you want into a "want list" you can visit your own store
and see what parts you have that are on that want list.

At the top of the page under your "Shop," "Terms," and "Feedback" tabs you will
see "Wanted List." If you click on that you can cycle through your want lists
and see what you have.
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Hey,
Anyone know how to compare a parts list of a set (that I have previously parted
out) with my current inventory of parts in that set to see what parts have already
sold.
Thanks.
Brickbox83
 Author: hockeyweasel View Messages Posted By hockeyweasel
 Posted: Jul 29, 2019 15:35
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The inventory for the Hogwarts Clock Tower 75948-1 was 'In Progress'
and then 'Pending Approval' about a week later, and within a couple of
days it went back to N/A. What happened?
 Author: DrFrag View Messages Posted By DrFrag
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  
Please submit the change request, and it will be approved. I will also add a
note to the inventory once that happens.

Cheers,
Randy

No problem, change request submitted. Thread is here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1150365
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In Inventories, DrFrag writes:
  I just parted out a single sealed retail box of 31056-1 and all the parts were
correct, except it came with an extra Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 12
with Holes. This is the largest part in the entire set and mine had 3 instead
of 2. The instructions indicate only 2 are needed. All 3 were loose in the
cardboard box and not in the sealed plastic bags.

I'm hesitant to submit an inventory change request because this set came
out a couple of years ago so I expect its database entry is settled, and I've
never seen an extra part this large before.

Should I just chalk this up as a one-off oddity?

Please submit the change request, and it will be approved. I will also add a
note to the inventory once that happens.

Cheers,
Randy
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I remember parting out 8 or so last year and i think 6 of them had the extra
technic brick. Don't know why. It's like some of the earlier brickheadz
had an extra 6*8 black plate in them.

In smaller sets if there is one large part in it they are usually loose in the
box.

Inventories, DrFrag writes:
  I just parted out a single sealed retail box of 31056-1 and all the parts were
correct, except it came with an extra Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 12
with Holes. This is the largest part in the entire set and mine had 3 instead
of 2. The instructions indicate only 2 are needed. All 3 were loose in the
cardboard box and not in the sealed plastic bags.

I'm hesitant to submit an inventory change request because this set came
out a couple of years ago so I expect its database entry is settled, and I've
never seen an extra part this large before.

Should I just chalk this up as a one-off oddity?
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I just parted out a single sealed retail box of 31056-1 and all the parts were
correct, except it came with an extra Dark Bluish Gray Technic, Brick 1 x 12
with Holes. This is the largest part in the entire set and mine had 3 instead
of 2. The instructions indicate only 2 are needed. All 3 were loose in the
cardboard box and not in the sealed plastic bags.

I'm hesitant to submit an inventory change request because this set came
out a couple of years ago so I expect its database entry is settled, and I've
never seen an extra part this large before.

Should I just chalk this up as a one-off oddity?
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I did just get it in an order. I didn't realized that there was also the
olive green printed version. Thanks!
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In Catalog Requests, GIT_Some_Bricks writes:
  I believe the new snake part 38801 from set 71043 has been incorrectly logged
as Sand Green when it is actually Olive Green. At least the one I have (in the
pic) is clearly olive green. Can anyone else verify?

The set was originally inventories with the olive green snake with black eyes.
It was later changed to the sand green snake with no printing. If you got the
snake from that set, the inventory needs to be updated with the variant. But
if you just got a snake in an order or in a bulk lot, you probably just got the
one that came in CMF.
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In Catalog Requests, GIT_Some_Bricks writes:
  I believe the new snake part 38801 from set 71043 has been incorrectly logged
as Sand Green when it is actually Olive Green. At least the one I have (in the
pic) is clearly olive green. Can anyone else verify?

The olive green snake is this part:

 
Part No: 38801pb01  Name: Snake, Large with Raised Head with Black Eyes Pattern (HP Nagini)
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38801pb01 Snake, Large with Raised Head with Black Eyes Pattern (HP Nagini)
Parts: Animal, Land

Did you find this snake in set 71043?

Regards,
Jonas
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I believe the new snake part 38801 from set 71043 has been incorrectly logged
as Sand Green when it is actually Olive Green. At least the one I have (in the
pic) is clearly olive green. Can anyone else verify?
 
 Author: building4ever View Messages Posted By building4ever
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In Inventories, randyf writes:
  In Inventories, building4ever writes:
  Inventory and Lego instruction counts 6x Light Bluish Gray Plate 1 x 2

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=10244-1&name=Fairground%20Mixer&category=%5BCreator%5D%5BModel%5D#T=I

In Lego instruction I only see it 4x. Manual 3 of 3 on page 8 ( 3x) and page
11 (1x) = 4x

So either the count is wrong or the instruction. Could somebody verify this?

Thx

The step on page 11 that uses 1x must be repeated 3x to build all three arms
of the ride. Those are the two that you are missing.

Cheers,
Randy

You are right! Thx
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In Inventories, building4ever writes:
  Inventory and Lego instruction counts 6x Light Bluish Gray Plate 1 x 2

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=10244-1&name=Fairground%20Mixer&category=%5BCreator%5D%5BModel%5D#T=I

In Lego instruction I only see it 4x. Manual 3 of 3 on page 8 ( 3x) and page
11 (1x) = 4x

So either the count is wrong or the instruction. Could somebody verify this?

Thx

The step on page 11 that uses 1x must be repeated 3x to build all three arms
of the ride. Those are the two that you are missing.

Cheers,
Randy
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Inventory and Lego instruction counts 6x Light Bluish Gray Plate 1 x 2

https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?S=10244-1&name=Fairground%20Mixer&category=%5BCreator%5D%5BModel%5D#T=I

In Lego instruction I only see it 4x. Manual 3 of 3 on page 8 ( 3x) and page
11 (1x) = 4x

So either the count is wrong or the instruction. Could somebody verify this?

Thx
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In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
  Hi,

There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.

Ciao!
Tim

All of the plumes are in this set and follow the inventory guidelines laid out
here:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562

Cheers,
Randy
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In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
  Hi,

There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.

Ciao!
Tim

Are you sure they didn't come with [p=4502c01]?

There were plumes on the round spew in this set.
John P
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In Inventories, Ossdorp writes:
  Hi,

There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.

Ciao!
Tim

Are you sure they didn't come with [p=4502c01]?
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Hi,

There are no plumes are in this set (6021). Only with the minifigures.
I tried to fill in an inventory request, but I have gotten an error page.

Ciao!
Tim
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In Inventories, szellandor writes:
  Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets

Don't get your hopes up. I've bought a lot of bulk lego (from Norwegian
site finn.no). Many claims that "all parts are probably there, but I can't
guarantee". Out of 100sets, there could be maybe 3-5complete sets. Most sets
have unique or rare parts, so it didn't help me much to have 5000 unique
spare parts. Rebrickable.com is great for finding what you can build, but you
will probably need some spare parts from bricklink 😉

2years ago I was doing what you probably are doing now. Then I got this idea
that it would be fun to have as many unique bricks as possible so that I could
build whatever I want whenever I want. Doesn't seem like it is going to happen,
I'm at about 10.000 unique now.

Have fun
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In Inventories, szellandor writes:
  Hey guys,
Is there a listing option here to check which complete sets could I be able to
build using the parts in my inventory? If the answer is yes, can I exclude the
parts from my inventory that belong to a complete set I wouldn't want to
take apart for the purpose? I have a crazy amount of spare parts, I'd like
to check wether they could add up to some nice, complete sets

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