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 Author: popsicle View Messages Posted By popsicle
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We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle
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Any images of said items, just curious as to what they produced.



In General, popsicle writes:
  We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle
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In General, Stuart9 writes:
  Any images of said items, just curious as to what they produced.

It was a lot of stuff, Stuart. Litereally like sweeping the floors of the backroom
of the park display area where we were not suppose to have been, she told us
while inviting us to be

Colors for parts not otherwise found, mold variances, even injection mishaps
as plastic blobs, which she liked as they had peculiar and fun shapes and forms.
Many other unique things too, as I recall. Just bad timing though, and had I
known

As to pics: like I said, it was before our involvement with LEGO. Even so, it's
not been until recently that I became aware of the value of such, so...

  
In General, popsicle writes:
  We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle
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When Guidelines are in the picture i cannot help myself:


The term written as "parlay" on the Pirata Codex was known as a right
in the Code of the Pirate Brethren, set down by Morgan and Bartholomew, that
allowed any person to invoke temporary protection and brought before the captain
to "negotiate" without being attacked until the parley is complete.

Following that , i argue it should be allowed atleast untill it is clear that
it either is or isnt allowed.

A quantum mechanical approach, approved by pirates.

I say pizza time🍕🍕
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In General, popsicle writes:

Nice story!


  Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog?

I'd say no.


  Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

I'd say:

* anything sold at LEGO on line, past or present,

* OR sold in LEGO PAB or such LEGO shops (and which aren't a local production,
apart if it's LEGO advertised)*,

* OR sold by authorized LEGO distributors or resellers (toys shop, supermarkets...)

AND in all case which hasn't been officially retired for safety or image
(see this famous plane...)


*Example, this one described here, I'm not sure it can be sold here.
But it shows the LEGO brand, has been produced by a LEGO PAB showing its name,
so I'd say yes?
https://www.stonewars.de/news/armstrongs-fussabdruck/
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  I'd say:

* anything sold at LEGO on line, past or present,

* OR sold in LEGO PAB or such LEGO shops (and which aren't a local production,
apart if it's LEGO advertised)*,

* OR sold by authorized LEGO distributors or resellers (toys shop, supermarkets...)


Forgotten:

* OR (especially for older sets) appearing in an official LEGO Catalog for sale
either for distance sale or through their or authorized shops

  AND in all case which hasn't been officially retired for safety or image
(see this famous plane...)


I'm sure someone can get a possible better or more optimized / better translated
definition.
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  Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Into the catalogue? Definitely not. There are many parts made by machines owned
by LEGO and sold by LEGO that should not be in the catalogue. For example, LEGO
Discovery Centres used to have engraving machines where they would engrave your
name or a word on a brick. They might still do it, it's been a long time
since I went. They own the machine, they sell the part. There would be unlimited
catalogue entries if they were allowed. Same with the new torso printing machines.

As to whether they should be allowed to be sold as customs, that is another issue.
However, if something was made on a LEGO owned machine, how can you tell? If
those are allowed as customs, they'd have to allow parts engraved or printed
on other machines, as they wouldn't be able to tell them apart. And then
they could end up allowing the sale of IPs they don't have the license for.
As for undecorated but custom parts, is there really a difference? If they are
custom ordered, made on demand, then there is little difference.

  Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Into the catalogue? Definitely not. There are many parts made by machines owned
by LEGO and sold by LEGO that should not be in the catalogue. For example, LEGO
Discovery Centres used to have engraving machines where they would engrave your
name or a word on a brick. They might still do it, it's been a long time
since I went. They own the machine, they sell the part. There would be unlimited
catalogue entries if they were allowed. Same with the new torso printing machines.

As to whether they should be allowed to be sold as customs, that is another issue.
However, if something was made on a LEGO owned machine, how can you tell? If
those are allowed as customs, they'd have to allow parts engraved or printed
on other machines, as they wouldn't be able to tell them apart. And then
they could end up allowing the sale of IPs they don't have the license for.
As for undecorated but custom parts, is there really a difference? If they are
custom ordered, made on demand, then there is little difference.

  Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Profound as usual

So getting back to the subject of the post, if you don't mind that is
What should be the guidelines or parameters for what is "official"
LEGO here on BL?
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So getting back to the subject of the post, if you don't mind that is
What should be the guidelines or parameters for what is "official"
LEGO here on BL?

The simplest rule would be items from official sets. Then other items as custom
items on a case by case basis as BL sees fit, which is pretty much what it is
now.

Not that that would necessarily stop stolen, nightshift or similar items. If
illegitimate copies of (expensive) production parts are made, who is to know
of the origin? The only reason some parts stand out is that they are not known
in sets. Only allowing items that have appeared in sets could just shift what
is made by bootleggers. Although a lot of that bootleg jellybean type minifigure
trade still exists on ebay and facebok for the "rare", "prototype"
parts or whatever other description they want to use.
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In General, yorbrick writes:
  
  
So getting back to the subject of the post, if you don't mind that is
What should be the guidelines or parameters for what is "official"
LEGO here on BL?

The simplest rule would be items from official sets. Then other items as custom
items on a case by case basis as BL sees fit, which is pretty much what it is
now.

Not that that would necessarily stop stolen, nightshift or similar items. If
illegitimate copies of (expensive) production parts are made, who is to know
of the origin? The only reason some parts stand out is that they are not known
in sets. Only allowing items that have appeared in sets could just shift what
is made by bootleggers. Although a lot of that bootleg jellybean type minifigure
trade still exists on ebay and facebok for the "rare", "prototype"
parts or whatever other description they want to use.

Good points.

I offer my somewhat personal anecdotal input, in part to balance the incessant
"stolen, nightshift" as you put it, scenarios all too readily expressed
by mostly the under-informed here. To those reading, understand or don't.
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  I offer my somewhat personal anecdotal input, in part to balance the incessant
"stolen, nightshift" as you put it, scenarios all too readily expressed
by mostly the under-informed here. To those reading, understand or don't.

It is like anything in life that is slightly outside of the mainstream rules.
If a little bit happens but it is so insignificant that it doesn't really
affect anyone or get noticed, it is not really an issue and can continue. When
it happens much more often, and people start abusing it, then something needs
to be done. In that case, things that would have not been cracked down on in
the past suddenly get cracked down on, even though people see it as legitimate
as it was previously not cracked down on. The sellers and buyers of the transparent
Darth Vader and Batman figures really pushed the boundaries and it seems previous
not disallowed parts have been caught up in this.
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In General, popsicle writes:
  [...] I say hypothetically, as we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Sorry to hear that.
I like these stories and I'd like to find some of those one day (especially
with some red/rust bricks with mold number 777 inside).
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In General, WoutR writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  [...] I say hypothetically, as we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Sorry to hear that.

Thanks. But don't have remorse over this. I should say; don't have enough
remorse for such things, it's all needed elsewhere Besides, got the memories

  I like these stories and I'd like to find some of those one day (especially
with some red/rust bricks with mold number 777 inside).

Now really wish I had taken pics of at least some of it. Though isn't the
hunt the fun, and anticipation the excitement... Keep hunting
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In General, popsicle writes:
  
Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?



Over the years, for various reasons, certain people and groups of people have
been granted special access to acquire or purchase items/elements that are not
normally available to Non-LEGO employees or even to the general public. Typically
one-time closed-door events or deals, but with full authorization to acquire
those items. Also, typically accompanied by signed or handshake agreements as
well as Non-Disclosure Agreements to NEVER sell those items to the public and
not to talk about it.

Over time, however, and as those items pass from one person or generation to
another, those agreements to never sell may be long forgotten or disregarded.

I won't give specific examples that I know about, but some have included
special access to Lego Model Shop stock rooms; or deals to purchase bricks from
special production runs of specific elements and/or colors; or gifts of special
items as non-monetary compensation; or even as items to be sold to limited audiences
to benefit a third party that LEGO corporate wished to support.

Some of this type of thing still occurs, I am sure, tho I do not have direct
knowledge of such events like I used to have.

My point is that special items someone got 20 or 30 years ago could very easily
show up being offered for sale on BrickLink. And those special items are genuine
LEGO elements.

In fact, as a buyer, I have purchased many items like that on BrickLink and even
gotten some in other ways and have seen a few others with my own eyes. My term
for those items are 'Parts that Don't Exist'. Except that they do
exist, they were just never used in any Lego sets.

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In General, Shiny_Stuff writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  
Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?



Over the years, for various reasons, certain people and groups of people have
been granted special access to acquire or purchase items/elements that are not
normally available to Non-LEGO employees or even to the general public. Typically
one-time closed-door events or deals, but with full authorization to acquire
those items. Also, typically accompanied by signed or handshake agreements as
well as Non-Disclosure Agreements to NEVER sell those items to the public and
not to talk about it.

Over time, however, and as those items pass from one person or generation to
another, those agreements to never sell may be long forgotten or disregarded.

I won't give specific examples that I know about, but some have included
special access to Lego Model Shop stock rooms; or deals to purchase bricks from
special production runs of specific elements and/or colors; or gifts of special
items as non-monetary compensation; or even as items to be sold to limited audiences
to benefit a third party that LEGO corporate wished to support.

Some of this type of thing still occurs, I am sure, tho I do not have direct
knowledge of such events like I used to have.

My point is that special items someone got 20 or 30 years ago could very easily
show up being offered for sale on BrickLink. And those special items are genuine
LEGO elements.

In fact, as a buyer, I have purchased many items like that on BrickLink and even
gotten some in other ways and have seen a few others with my own eyes. My term
for those items are 'Parts that Don't Exist'. Except that they do
exist, they were just never used in any Lego sets.

Good points. Thanks
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In General, popsicle writes:
  We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle

People need to stop picking at a scab and making themselves bleed.

Where do you want to draw the line?

LEGO could require you to submit invoices and receipts for every item you sell.

While this would no doubt cut down on the small percent of the community who
buy fenced goods, thieves, and factory fiends, it would be a nuisance for sellers
overall, especially for people who have older pieces and sets.

LEGO has a general hands-off policy regarding the secondary market, and it is
best it be kept that way.
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In General, BrickDeals writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle

People need to stop picking at a scab and making themselves bleed.

Where do you want to draw the line?

LEGO could require you to submit invoices and receipts for every item you sell.

While this would no doubt cut down on the small percent of the community who
buy fenced goods, thieves, and factory fiends, it would be a nuisance for sellers
overall, especially for people who have older pieces and sets.

LEGO has a general hands-off policy regarding the secondary market, and it is
best it be kept that way.

Reread the post, let's see if you can get at least a basic understanding
of it's intent My only point is what's allowed into the BL catalog
and how that's determined be better spelled out.

That said, I do agree with the sentiment of what you're expressing too.
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In General, popsicle writes:
  In General, BrickDeals writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle

People need to stop picking at a scab and making themselves bleed.

Where do you want to draw the line?

LEGO could require you to submit invoices and receipts for every item you sell.

While this would no doubt cut down on the small percent of the community who
buy fenced goods, thieves, and factory fiends, it would be a nuisance for sellers
overall, especially for people who have older pieces and sets.

LEGO has a general hands-off policy regarding the secondary market, and it is
best it be kept that way.

Reread the post, let's see if you can get at least a basic understanding
of it's intent My only point is what's allowed into the BL catalog
and how that's determined be better spelled out.

And to be sold here. Not only as a custom lot, but as officially recognized LEGO
for the secondary market. Which is another aspect of what the catalog offers
the marketplace

  
That said, I do agree with the sentiment of what you're expressing too.
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In General, popsicle writes:
  In General, BrickDeals writes:
  In General, popsicle writes:
  We had season passes the first two years of LegoLand, CA's opening, my son,
daughter and I. Mostly as a place to hang out when bored, sometimes just somewhere
to eat our lunch outdoors. It was a very nice environment for the kids and I
in the earlier years of its opening. Very relaxed wonderful space for them especially.
Good memories

So almost inevitably, we became friends with some that worked there. In particular
was a woman that ran the injection molding display at the park, my kids speaking
Swedish and her being from and missing her family in Sweden, it just happened.
Anyway, we ended up with a lot of souvenirs she liked to give them, samples from
what the displayed LEGO injection molding machine processed throughout the day.
This was before our involvement with BL and the selling of LEGO, or really even
as enthusiastic fans of LEGO, and so they were just fun items for my son and
daughter to take home.

Cutting back towards the point: These items were produced on an official LEGO
injection molding machine by a LEGO affiliated employee. Would these unique items
hypothetically then be allowed into the BL catalog? I say hypothetically, as
we no longer have the parts. Tossed them long ago, actually

Now to the point: What does actually qualify as "officially" LEGO
and therefore allowed to be sold here?
Maybe more definitive guidelines would
be useful to all of within the secondary marketplace?

Just some (anecdotal backed) pondering

-popsicle

People need to stop picking at a scab and making themselves bleed.

Where do you want to draw the line?

LEGO could require you to submit invoices and receipts for every item you sell.

While this would no doubt cut down on the small percent of the community who
buy fenced goods, thieves, and factory fiends, it would be a nuisance for sellers
overall, especially for people who have older pieces and sets.

LEGO has a general hands-off policy regarding the secondary market, and it is
best it be kept that way.

That said, I do agree with the sentiment of what you're expressing too.

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