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| | | Author: | ej76az  | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 22:35 | | Subject: | add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 191 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 22:42 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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since bricklink is specifically for 3rd party sellers, not lego themselves. if
lego came over to bricklink and started ramping up then most stores on bricklink
would have to close down as they cant compete with lego if they are on the same
site which would then just end up making bricklink a reskinned PAB.
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| | | | | | | Author: | ej76az | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 22:48 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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since bricklink is specifically for 3rd party sellers, not lego themselves. if
lego came over to bricklink and started ramping up then most stores on bricklink
would have to close down as they cant compete with lego if they are on the same
site which would then just end up making bricklink a reskinned PAB.
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cool pizza flag
Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 22:54 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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since bricklink is specifically for 3rd party sellers, not lego themselves. if
lego came over to bricklink and started ramping up then most stores on bricklink
would have to close down as they cant compete with lego if they are on the same
site which would then just end up making bricklink a reskinned PAB.
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cool pizza flag
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pizza!
| | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
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since they make up a good chunk of Lego's revenue. 3rd party sellers buy
from lego and then do lots of work which if lego themselves did and paid employees
minimum wage they probably couldn't make it profitable so with the current
setup all parties involved benefit. Also it seems lego is pursuing this route
as there have been surveys from lego and bricklink trying to improve the lego-reseller
connection.
| | Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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To a point but if lego started selling lots on bricklink then a good chunk of
sales would move to them and then the stores that could offer said parts would
have most of their stock not moving since lego takes that and then they probably
wouldn't bother with selling the few parts that lego doesn't sell as
sales would be significantly lower and make it not profitable for many
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ej76az | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 23:40 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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since bricklink is specifically for 3rd party sellers, not lego themselves. if
lego came over to bricklink and started ramping up then most stores on bricklink
would have to close down as they cant compete with lego if they are on the same
site which would then just end up making bricklink a reskinned PAB.
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cool pizza flag
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pizza!
| | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
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since they make up a good chunk of Lego's revenue. 3rd party sellers buy
from lego and then do lots of work which if lego themselves did and paid employees
minimum wage they probably couldn't make it profitable so with the current
setup all parties involved benefit. Also it seems lego is pursuing this route
as there have been surveys from lego and bricklink trying to improve the lego-reseller
connection.
| | Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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To a point but if lego started selling lots on bricklink then a good chunk of
sales would move to them and then the stores that could offer said parts would
have most of their stock not moving since lego takes that and then they probably
wouldn't bother with selling the few parts that lego doesn't sell as
sales would be significantly lower and make it not profitable for many
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pardon my ignorance (I'm an AFOL newbie), but could you explain this a little?
what work?
| | 3rd party sellers... do lots of work which if lego themselves did and paid employees
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 23:52 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | In Suggestions, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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since bricklink is specifically for 3rd party sellers, not lego themselves. if
lego came over to bricklink and started ramping up then most stores on bricklink
would have to close down as they cant compete with lego if they are on the same
site which would then just end up making bricklink a reskinned PAB.
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cool pizza flag
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pizza!
| | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
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since they make up a good chunk of Lego's revenue. 3rd party sellers buy
from lego and then do lots of work which if lego themselves did and paid employees
minimum wage they probably couldn't make it profitable so with the current
setup all parties involved benefit. Also it seems lego is pursuing this route
as there have been surveys from lego and bricklink trying to improve the lego-reseller
connection.
| | Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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To a point but if lego started selling lots on bricklink then a good chunk of
sales would move to them and then the stores that could offer said parts would
have most of their stock not moving since lego takes that and then they probably
wouldn't bother with selling the few parts that lego doesn't sell as
sales would be significantly lower and make it not profitable for many
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pardon my ignorance (I'm an AFOL newbie), but could you explain this a little?
what work?
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Listing and pulling orders is usually extremely work intensive in comparison
to profit.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 23:02 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | ej76az | | Posted: | Apr 16, 2024 23:33 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, UTLF writes:
| | | | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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Lego owns Bricklink, and Bricklink is strictly third-party sellers; the site
would die and Lego would lose money on their investment & whatnot
If you want to source parts from PAB and Bricklink, use BrickHunter, a Chrome
extension that lets you upload a wanted list & auto-selects parts from PAB and
shows what you would need to get from Bricklink if parts are unavailable or retired
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Yes, BH is amazing, and I often use it. But it adds another layer of complexity
and another step in the process.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rtzx9r | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 00:00 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | In Suggestions, UTLF writes:
| | | | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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Lego owns Bricklink, and Bricklink is strictly third-party sellers; the site
would die and Lego would lose money on their investment & whatnot
If you want to source parts from PAB and Bricklink, use BrickHunter, a Chrome
extension that lets you upload a wanted list & auto-selects parts from PAB and
shows what you would need to get from Bricklink if parts are unavailable or retired
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Yes, BH is amazing, and I often use it. But it adds another layer of complexity
and another step in the process.
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Ever order from PAB? Enjoy your bricks 2-3 months later.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 00:09 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, rtzx9r writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | In Suggestions, UTLF writes:
| | | | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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Lego owns Bricklink, and Bricklink is strictly third-party sellers; the site
would die and Lego would lose money on their investment & whatnot
If you want to source parts from PAB and Bricklink, use BrickHunter, a Chrome
extension that lets you upload a wanted list & auto-selects parts from PAB and
shows what you would need to get from Bricklink if parts are unavailable or retired
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Yes, BH is amazing, and I often use it. But it adds another layer of complexity
and another step in the process.
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Ever order from PAB? Enjoy your bricks 2-3 months later.
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For standard bricks but yah it’s crazy.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 00:42 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 02:05 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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When taking over bricklink, LEGO claimed they wouldn't interfere with the
marketplace, implying they wouldn't compete with sellers. If they want to
compete with sellers, then many sellers will leave and move to the independent
marketplace.
They would also need to behave like other BL sellers. I'd leave them negative
feedback unless they improved their order turn around times.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 02:59 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
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Because that would directly impact their own sales. Myself and many others focus
solely on new sets and new set part outs, buying multiple copies of high dollar
sets. How many $200, $400, $600+ sets do regular consumers (or BL buyers without
a store) buy per year, and how many do small rinky dink stores like me - or
extremely large stores not like me - buy per month? I'd argue that an enthusiastic
3PS is worth a minimum - minimum - of 40 run of the mill consumers.
| | Also, third-party stores would still be indispensable, because there are so many
parts that are unavailable from the PaB website.
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Indispensable and profitable are two different things. Plus how many people
place an order for 50 lots of discontinued parts? Think of at least five of
unavailable parts you're trying to find and go look at the sales history
of it. At best it's current for sale average is probably a couple of bucks
and at least three of those probably have an outlier that's ~50% below the
average. From the sounds of it, you're going to buy from the cheapest store,
and they made "a coupl'a bucks". That's not running a business,
that's running a charity without the benefits of 501c status.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | nbbhav | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 05:15 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
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It would create an interesting marketing problem for LEGO. If you've not
read LEGO's Fair Play statement, it's worth reading it:
https://www.lego.com/en-gb/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-play/
I'm not a lawyer, but would it be considered unfair competition if PaB was
added into BrickLink?
I think LEGO has more opportunities promoting BrickLink longer term for both
New and Used pieces. I've had problems in orders from PaB which weren't
ideal for me, but from the LEGO perspective this is additional cost they have
to manage.
For Used pieces, promoting their support for BrickLink helps in environmental
sustainability through recycling of used bricks.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 05:36 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, nbbhav writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | Why would LEGO care whether any third-party stores (i.e. competitors of LEGO's
PaB website) close down?
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It would create an interesting marketing problem for LEGO. If you've not
read LEGO's Fair Play statement, it's worth reading it:
https://www.lego.com/en-gb/legal/notices-and-policies/fair-play/
I'm not a lawyer, but would it be considered unfair competition if PaB was
added into BrickLink?
I think LEGO has more opportunities promoting BrickLink longer term for both
New and Used pieces. I've had problems in orders from PaB which weren't
ideal for me, but from the LEGO perspective this is additional cost they have
to manage.
For Used pieces, promoting their support for BrickLink helps in environmental
sustainability through recycling of used bricks.
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Not to mention that stores on BL can not have more than one physical location
from which they ship from.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 07:45 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| | | Not to mention that stores on BL can not have more than one physical location
from which they ship from.
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That is for regular people and companies. I'm sure they could find a way
round if they wanted to do it. Such as having three different LEGO BL stores,
one for standard parts, one for bestsellers Europe and one for bestsellers North
America, or however many locations they ship from.
But it would still go back on what they said originally, and I think would damage
new parts sales from regular sellers who would then shift their stores completely
to brickowl. Moving both used and new parts sellers, moving customers and losing
BL fees.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ra | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 09:10 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Not to mention that stores on BL can not have more than one physical location
from which they ship from.
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That is for regular people and companies. I'm sure they could find a way
round if they wanted to do it. Such as having three different LEGO BL stores,
one for standard parts, one for bestsellers Europe and one for bestsellers North
America, or however many locations they ship from.
But it would still go back on what they said originally, and I think would damage
new parts sales from regular sellers who would then shift their stores completely
to brickowl. Moving both used and new parts sellers, moving customers and losing
BL fees.
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We don't know how lucrative PaB is, but I am sure it isn't just for the
benefit of lego enthusiasts. If TLG were to capture more actual sales then just
fees, I am sure they would be making more money then just fees alone. So if a
brick only costs a few cents to manufacture and they can capture the same profit
as PaB that will be more than 3-2% of what a part sells for on here.
Example:
PaB part cost to manufacture, 5 cents, sells for 10 cents that is 5 cent profit.
Where a seller sells that part at 10 cents TLG makes 2 cents (from a major seller).
Sure you can say but TLG has overhead, where? They are already manufacturing,
storing, sorting for sets and PaB so no additional overhead.
TLG has a global foot print, way more than any seller has on here along with
better shipping rate options.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Apr 18, 2024 10:52 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Ra writes:
| | In Suggestions, yorbrick writes:
| | | | Not to mention that stores on BL can not have more than one physical location
from which they ship from.
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That is for regular people and companies. I'm sure they could find a way
round if they wanted to do it. Such as having three different LEGO BL stores,
one for standard parts, one for bestsellers Europe and one for bestsellers North
America, or however many locations they ship from.
But it would still go back on what they said originally, and I think would damage
new parts sales from regular sellers who would then shift their stores completely
to brickowl. Moving both used and new parts sellers, moving customers and losing
BL fees.
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We don't know how lucrative PaB is, but I am sure it isn't just for the
benefit of lego enthusiasts. If TLG were to capture more actual sales then just
fees, I am sure they would be making more money then just fees alone. So if a
brick only costs a few cents to manufacture and they can capture the same profit
as PaB that will be more than 3-2% of what a part sells for on here.
Example:
PaB part cost to manufacture, 5 cents, sells for 10 cents that is 5 cent profit.
Where a seller sells that part at 10 cents TLG makes 2 cents (from a major seller).
Sure you can say but TLG has overhead, where? They are already manufacturing,
storing, sorting for sets and PaB so no additional overhead.
TLG has a global foot print, way more than any seller has on here along with
better shipping rate options.
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Sure they could try to capture more of the market for inividual new parts, but
at what long term cost? They cannot keep up with PAB standard as it is. PAB best
seller is OK for speed but that s relatively small inventory.
If they aim to kill small businesses selling on bricklink then there is little
point in owning bricklink. Longer term,it would be worse for sellers and buyers.
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| | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 07:16 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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In my experience, it's rare that PaB is actually cheaper - if it were I'd
definitely be buying parts there and selling them here.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 10:45 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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Anyone have the data on what percentage of parts/colors/patterns available on
BrickLink is on the current PAB menu?
Also, I think the prices would become much higher if LEGO had to pay enough people
to ship every order as quickly and accurately as a good BL shop does.
~Jen
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Apr 17, 2024 11:17 | | Subject: | Re: add LEGO PaB website to stores | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, jennnifer writes:
| | In Suggestions, ej76az writes:
| | When clicking Buy All on a Wanted List and then clicking Auto-Select, only third-party
stores are listed. The price of a part is often (but not always) cheaper from
LEGO's PaB website than from any third-party store. Also, PaB shipping is
free if the order is at least $35, whereas shipping costs can really add up when
buying from third-party stores. LEGO has owned BL for almost half a decade.
Why is LEGO's PaB website not included among the stores on BL?
(I tried to search for this suggestion in the Forum but didn't find anything)
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Anyone have the data on what percentage of parts/colors/patterns available on
BrickLink is on the current PAB menu?
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They now have 15087 lots for sale, but only 14694 in stock. Bestsellers in stock
are 4180 lots.
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Also, I think the prices would become much higher if LEGO had to pay enough people
to ship every order as quickly and accurately as a good BL shop does.
~Jen
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