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| | | Author: | MiniRoz  | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:26 | | Subject: | DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 552 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:36 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 91 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
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| | | | | | | Author: | MiniRoz | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
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Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:51 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
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Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
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mhm, id 100% wait for Paypal to say what to do. they will likely say you have
to return it at your expense but then you are guaranteed a refund.
also, if any admins are reading this, this sellers seems to perfectly fit the
bill for one of the Mexico factory sellers so it may be prudent to look into
them.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jbroman | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:46 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | also, if any admins are reading this, this sellers seems to perfectly fit the
bill for one of the Mexico factory sellers so it may be prudent to look into
them.
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It looks like they are located in the same area (Monterey) as the Mexican factory.
Either they work there, or knows someone that does.
All new minifigs, including 12 year old ones, with no parts from the related
sets.
It wasn’t hard to figure out the store name
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| | | | | | | Author: | MiniRoz | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:51 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | id recommend returning it. PayPal will usually always allow that and also since
rex is getting a rerelease in a couple of months you'll save lots of money.
as for reporting to bricklink they take a while to respond and take action but
once they eventually get to it they will probably take action
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Thanks for responding. The seller just sent me a “one time offer” - he claims
he will issue a refund for the items (minus shipping) if I pay to ship it to
his location in Mexico. He says he will only issue the refund once he receives
the items. I have zero reason to trust this person. As the saying goes, “fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me”. In this case, I feel that
sending the items back will leave me with the original amount I paid, the cost
to ship it to Mexico, and none of the items I purchased. There is no way this
person ever sends a refund. They have only had 6 or 7 orders, and they 60% positive
feedback. He has nothing to lose.
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| | | | | Author: | stranqe | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| You are correct, the minifig should come with everything listed as its inventory
parts on bricklink. I sell a lot of clone troopers and always make sure visors,
backpacks and range finders are included if specified for that figure. How specific
was the seller in stating some parts were missing? "no accessories" you
could reasonably assume this to mean guns or lightsabers, etc. so that wouldn't
defend his actions.
Have you asked for a refund or been offered this as an option from the seller?
paypal will likely just ask you to send the items back and refund you but I
believe you would ship at your own expense.
In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
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| | | | | Author: | Brickman4you | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 17:54 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:10 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 106 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | MiniRoz | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:22 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
I just looked at his store inventory, and he has several Employee Exclusive sets
for sale, so I’m wondering if he works at the LEGO facility in Mexico. He had
100% positive feedback when I made my purchase, but I’m now seeing that his feedback
was likely from a friend or second account. I have made dozens of purchases from
sellers in Canada that have been exceptional, so I didn’t feel I should over
scrutinize purchasing from a seller in Mexico. I’ve completed over 300 transactions
without incident, but I will obviously be more cautious moving forward.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:26 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 92 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:46 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 81 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
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maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
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Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:50 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
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maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
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Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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You are over thinking again
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 18:59 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
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maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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You are over thinking again
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Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:04 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
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Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:09 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
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Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
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Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:24 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
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Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
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Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:30 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
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If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:36 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
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If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
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Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:38 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Or alternatively, you can simply express your understanding of what "slanderous"
means
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:42 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Alright, I will be open for 15mins
I have a trip that I'm going on so I can't be tied to this site for days.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:47 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:51 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
|
I admire your moxie Order placed
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:53 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
Open in up?
My product is the same as yours, it's not like I'm selling mega.
|
I admire your moxie Order placed
|
Order invoced as soon as you respond to my message.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:57 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:59 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
Thank you! +1
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:12 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
|
As I said; stop it.
All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540
"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"
without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:15 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
|
I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
|
maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
|
Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
You are over thinking again
|
Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
|
Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
|
Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
|
Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
|
If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
|
Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
|
do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
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As I said; stop it.
All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540
"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"
without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
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what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario
and saying what it most likely is?
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
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maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
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Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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You are over thinking again
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Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
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Why did you close your store. Do you not what an order from me under the aforementioned
terms?
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Me oh my you are the grumpy one today.
I have said for the last 2 weeks that my store would be closed today. But if
you have a important order that you need right away I may be able to help.
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Sure, open it up. Let's see how I then publicly declare the legitimacy
of your product. Might be stolen, counterfeit, falsely advertised, etc. Who knows,
right? That's for me alone to slanderously and publicly announce
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If you want something just message me and I will see if I can get it to you
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Stop with the cutesy time. As I said, open in up. I'll publicly judge the
"legitimacy" of your product fairly.
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do you have any proof that anything could not be "legitimate"? the items
in question aren't just some random items for sale. lets look at a (probably
bad) explanation to help explain. its like if there were 2 stores selling for
example a flashlight with a wristband holder. Store 1 has the flashlight with
the wristband holder but store 2 has just the flashlight for sale.
Now for this example lets say there is a criminal group that works at the flashlight
factory that makes the flashlight part but not the wristband part. then large
quantities of the flashlights without wristbands are showing up on the market
being sold by un affiliated groups and all of them are missing the wristbands.
also, these flashlights aren't being sold as defects by the company to these
sellers and are not being taken from the company in any legal way. what would
your conclusion be? I know if I looked at all of this I would say store 1 is
getting them legitamly and store 2 is not.
I know i probably explained something wrong but hopefully, the point makes sense.
we are not just randomly saying on this is fake or that is fake. we look at all
the info that is very publically available and come to the conclusion we do
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As I said; stop it.
All the backpedaling will not negate: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462540
"maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods"
without your acknowledgment of the statement's inappropriateness within the
same context.
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what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario
and saying what it most likely is?
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Good question.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:43 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:50 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
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careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
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hopefully it doesn't come to that  Im trying to follow popsicles advise
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:52 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
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careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
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hopefully it doesn't come to that Im trying to follow popsicles advise
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1448935
but it seems not to be working
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Popsicle said that!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:57 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
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careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
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hopefully it doesn't come to that
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It will never come to that, not my game
Im trying to follow popsicles advise
Perhaps you'll learn to understand with more nuance then. My advise is heartfelt
and lived. But I don't advise public accusation of criminal intention in
others without hearing both sides.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:58 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | what exactly is "inappropriate" about looking at a very common scenario and saying what it most likely is?
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careful Nubs, stand up for yourself or make him look stupid & you'll end
up on his ignore & stop lists!
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hopefully it doesn't come to that
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It will never come to that, not my game
Im trying to follow popsicles advise
Perhaps you'll learn to understand with more nuance then. My advise is heartfelt
and lived. But I don't advise public accusation of criminal intention in
others without hearing both sides.
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Good idea!
ps. your order will be shipped tomorrow.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:05 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I didn’t illegitimately buy anything.
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maybe not knowingly but it is still most likely stolen goods
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Just stop with the childish behavior, guys. Without having more complete details
from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other
member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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You are over thinking again
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Let me place an order with you. If I'm then so inclined, I'll publicly
promote the idea that you deal in "stolen goods" If you're okay with
that criminal accusation, I'll place my order now?
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Hang on just let me stop list you first
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:23 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 19:39 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
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Lol, lmao even
| | Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
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well put. based on all the available info the most likely scenario is they are
Mexico nightshift figures. its not a random claim to say they are most likely
stolen. it is based on all the available evidence from a problem that is by no
means unique and is incredibly common over the past few years
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | MiniRoz | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:54 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
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Lol, lmao even
| | Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
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This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.
For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:58 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
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Lol, lmao even
| | Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
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Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
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This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.
For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.
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I wonder what would happen if this information somehow "accidentally"
made it to TLG (for legal reasons this is sarcasm not meant to be
taken seriously)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | KACL | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 23:37 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | Just stop with the childish behavior, guys.
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Lol, lmao even
| | Without having more complete details from both parties, it's boarding on slanderous if the identity of the other member should be publicly exposed, inadvertently or otherwise.
|
Okay, let's go over the details
If these minifigures were sourced directly from the sets, then they would be
complete with accessories, and would have had the correct heads. On top of that,
the seller would have had to buy x4 copies of the UCS Venator, which is around
$650 USD each, or $2600 total, to be able to have x4 SW1315 Captain Rex minifigures
- the chances of ALL 4 of these sets not coming with rangefinders or the pauldrons
is slim to none
the Mexico factory is known to have issues with illegitimate minifigures being
produced (ex. the colourful Darth Vader helmets, fully-transparent minifigs,
etc. that were banned here in recent years) as well as licensed minifigures being
smuggled out in droves
These licensed minifigures do not come with capes or other loose accessories
(like rangefinders) because those accessories likely come from a different factory,
and are then bundled into a complete set later on in the production process
There are multiple places online that harbor these sellers, most notably eBay,
Instagram & Facebook groups - they openly advertise what minifigures they can
"source" in bulk, and they are then sold in bulk to 3rd parties, like
Bricklink sellers
For a small store to purchase x4 $650 UCS Venator sets, just to part out x4 Captain
Rex minifigures & sell them for ~$80 each makes no sense
I guarantee you they do not have the parts from the actual build, and only have
minifigures listed in their store (a key giveaway as well - you will NOT recoup
the $2600 by selling the minifigures in each set, it's basic math)
This happened in the past with a lot of minifigures, for example:
Daredevil from the Bugle set
Punisher from the Bugle set
Blade from the Bugle set
Commander Cody from the AT-TE
Commander Fox from the Republic Gunship
C-3PO from the UCS Landspeeder
Joker from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Batman from the 2nd UCS Tumbler
Captain Rex from the UCS Venator
and there are a lot more examples that can be found if you spend enough time
simply browsing the catalog
There are more legitimate sellers than there are bad apples, but this leads to
the bad apples being given the benefit of the doubt & defended because they blend
in with everyone else, but only roaches scatter when you turn the lights on
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This makes perfect sense! I honestly didn’t even put together the fact that the
pauldrons and rangefinders are produced elsewhere. It also explains why he is
not selling any of these parts separately in his store.
For the record, I google machined the seller and found his LinkedIn profile;
he does, in fact, work at the LEGO factory in Mexico.
|
I wonder what would happen if this information somehow "accidentally"
made it to TLG (for legal reasons this is sarcasm not meant to be
taken seriously)
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I don’t know what their policy is now but back in the day, our employee store
purchases had a dollar amount limit per year. They wanted to make sure that our
purchases were for our family and that we weren’t selling them on the side. If
I remember correctly it was $500.00. Anyone caught selling them was subject to
termination.
Karen
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:34 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory; the reason
they were without rangefinders/pauldrons is because those parts come from a different
location than where these minifig parts are sourced, and they can't smuggle
them out as easily (if at all)
Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink
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Your random assumptions don't really help anybody. Stick to the facts.....
The facts are that the buyer has received missing items. Everything you have
written above is pure speculation and therefore irrelevant to helping resolve
the buyers issue!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:00 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:04 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | "random assumptions" as if there isn't a heap of information regarding
the Mexico factory & workers smuggling out minifigs in bulk... hokay buddy
what do you expect me to do? buy 4 UCS Venators, part them out, and send the
missing pauldrons to OP & solve his issue?
he already filed a paypal claim and NSS, I'm providing context as to why
this happened to him
Maybe you should read https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1462560 so I don't
repeat myself
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A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:14 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:27 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:28 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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Then sell them for a loss???
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:31 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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Then sell them for a loss???
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That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
There was another thread this month about how people can get so many GWP's
and it's extremely simple and "legal".
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:33 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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Then sell them for a loss???
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That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
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And I still want to know.
| | There was another thread this month about how people can get so many GWP's
and it's extremely simple and "legal".
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I remember.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:41 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | And I still want to know.
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Shrug, not my business model, I don't know. You'd have to ask them.
I've done it for some sets and just part it all out in. Other people sell
the set as used incomplete.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:44 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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Then sell them for a loss???
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That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
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And I still want to know.
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still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:52 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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Then sell them for a loss???
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That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
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And I still want to know.
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still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
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Sorry poor context, just trying to say that they can’t get that many figs from
$600 sets legally.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:57 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, Ziegelmeister writes:
| | In Problem Order, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | | | A simple case where you can see right through it.
There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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apparently they can
(old pic, but you get the point )
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You are right. Tell me one legal way you can get that many!
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Buy 40 sets? The limit is only on LEGO and at the store (I think), but other
retailers don't have limits. I'm not saying it's a great idea because
for a set like that you're going to have more wedge plates than you'll
know what to do with but if you're hellbent on having the most of a specific
minifig in your store, you just need to do a lot of shopping.
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Then sell them for a loss???
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That's just a follow up question. You asked how people can get that many
sets.
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And I still want to know.
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still wanted to know what precisely? (sorry I must be missing something)
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Sorry poor context, just trying to say that they can’t get that many figs from
$600 sets legally.
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sorry I'm just a little confused still we you referring to the rex one
and that was the rhetorical question or to a normal $600 set being parted out
in high qty
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:13 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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dont go that far its fully possible but in this specific case (rex without
paldron) its not but other cases like the joker from the ucs tumbler 100% is
possible (tho that may be from before your time in the forms)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 21:15 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | There is simply NO WAY that someone can get over 40 figs from a $400 set!
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dont go that far its fully possible but in this specific case (rex without
paldron) its not but other cases like the joker from the ucs tumbler 100% is
possible (tho that may be from before your time in the forms)
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True, heard you talking about this problem in your last vid.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:16 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | "random assumptions" as if there isn't a heap of information regarding
the Mexico factory & workers smuggling out minifigs in bulk... hokay buddy
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Are you suggesting that every time someone receives missing items, This is the
reason why??
| | what do you expect me to do? buy 4 UCS Venators, part them out, and send the
missing pauldrons to OP & solve his issue?
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Has anyone suggested that?
| | he already filed a paypal claim and NSS, I'm providing context as to why
this happened to him
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Yes and without any evidence to back that up. The buyer simply received missing
items. Providing your own reasons/ideas as to why this may have happened is one
thing but statements like:-
"You bought minifigures illegitimately sourced from a Lego factory"
and
"Legitimate Lego, just stolen by factory workers and resold on Bricklink"
are baseless comments and pure speculation on your part
Maybe you should try to better understand the Lego Marketplace before commenting
that way it would save us both repeating ourselves.
What you have written there only shows me that you believe every part on bricklink
can only be sourced from parting out sets alone. Has it not occurred to you that
Lego manufacture excess parts for customer service purposes? What do you think
happens to those excess parts after the sets become retired and Lego no longer
support them? There will also be production run overspills that differ in quantity
for each minifig component meaning there will never be an equal number of heads
to torsos in existence for each minifig hence why some parts belonging to the
same minifig are widely available whilst others are not.
Lastly just because a seller has a good quantity of high value parts does not
mean they were not acquired legitimately. Is it so hard to believe that parts
bought relatively cheaply today can soon become high value in a few years from
now?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:51 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 23:19 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | Lego doesn't sell licensed minifigures in bulk, especially when they come
in $650+ sets that are currently in production
We're talking about licensed minifigs, not regular bricks & pieces
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Did I mention Lego bricks and pieces? The point is not every single Licensed
Lego part ends up in a sealed set? What do you think happens to the excess manufactured
Licensed parts? Will leave you to ponder!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 23:49 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 10:18 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, UTLF writes:
| | Lego doesn't sell licensed minifigures in bulk, especially when they come
in $650+ sets that are currently in production
We're talking about licensed minifigs, not regular bricks & pieces
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+1
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| | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 20:30 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
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Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
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| | | | | | | Author: | rtzx9r | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:24 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
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Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
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They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:26 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| | | it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | BrickOutLoud | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:30 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| If it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.
I think I just found the title of my autobiography lol.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:34 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, BrickOutLoud writes:
| | If it smells like mustard pizza, it probably is.
I think I just found the title of my autobiography lol.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 22:30 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
| | In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
|
Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 23:23 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 80 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
| | In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
|
Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!
|
Don't bother. You're known (to me, anyway) as a man of reason and probity
who's expecting the same from some others without. Honestly, kinda painful
to witness. Haven't myself read anything within this thread offering more
substantial detail other than the member being in Mexico with a low seller rating.
Beyond that is the anecdotal input of the OP and a flood of speculation. Some
of which goes too far.
If any of those bantering criminal assertions based on the somewhat scant
information made known, would like to bring the other member into the convo for
their side of the story... or at least share more of their transactional history,
well then I'm willing listen with more intent.
|
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Apr 1, 2024 23:58 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
| | In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
|
Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!
|
Don't bother. You're known (to me, anyway) as a man of reason and probity
who's expecting the same from some others without. Honestly, kinda painful
to witness. Haven't myself read anything within this thread offering more
substantial detail other than the member being in Mexico with a low seller rating.
Beyond that is the anecdotal input of the OP and a flood of speculation. Some
of which goes too far.
If any of those bantering criminal assertions based on the somewhat scant
information made known, would like to bring the other member into the convo for
their side of the story... or at least share more of their transactional history,
well then I'm willing listen with more intent.
|
Well yes exactly that
However on a side note I just checked your store, You have 200x Tarkin heads
from a UCS set but no Torsos for that same minifig??
Conclusion is that you must have acquired them illegitimately? Well actually
no wait because that part hasn't increased in value to around $20 each those
ones are probably legitimate
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 00:21 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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However on a side note I just checked your store, You have 200x Tarkin heads
from a UCS set but no Torsos for that same minifig??
Conclusion is that you must have acquired them illegitimately? Well actually
no wait because that part hasn't increased in value to around $20 each those
ones are probably legitimate
|
If the same logic that we applied to the rex figures in the order was applied
to these parts they would still be considered 100% real
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 09:23 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 120 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, popsicle writes:
| | In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, rtzx9r writes:
| | In Problem Order, infinibrix writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Well regardless of whether the seller believes they are accessories or not and
regardless of whether they put in their item description that accessories were
not included:-
A) They should have been more specific about what wasn't included as accessories
on Bricklink would be classed as handheld items that are not shown in the minifig
catalog image
B) It is against Bricklink policy to list a catalogued minifigure without everything
in the picture being included
|
They may very well be legit sources from a set (are they Lego stores in Mexico?).and
if the seller had, say, 6600+ feedback I’d be a true believer they are operating
a legit store. But when feedbacks drop faster than the atmospheric pressure in
a cat 5 hurricane, they refuse to address their issues as a seller, and there
is precedence set, it’s more of the old adage if it smells like mustard pizza,
it probably is.
People also believe OJ is innocent.
|
Have I skipped a post? Do we even have the full details of the sellers account
at this stage? If not lets just stick to what we know.... The buyer received
missing parts, nothing more nothing less!
|
Don't bother. You're known (to me, anyway) as a man of reason and probity
who's expecting the same from some others without. Honestly, kinda painful
to witness. Haven't myself read anything within this thread offering more
substantial detail other than the member being in Mexico with a low seller rating.
Beyond that is the anecdotal input of the OP and a flood of speculation. Some
of which goes too far.
If any of those bantering criminal assertions based on the somewhat scant
information made known, would like to bring the other member into the convo for
their side of the story... or at least share more of their transactional history,
well then I'm willing listen with more intent.
|
Well yes exactly that
However on a side note I just checked your store, You have 200x Tarkin heads
from a UCS set but no Torsos for that same minifig??
Conclusion is that you must have acquired them illegitimately? Well actually
no wait because that part hasn't increased in value to around $20 each those
ones are probably legitimate
|
Your tongue-in-cheek analogy, highlights for me that you’re in the know. Fundamentals
of longterm LEGO investing for the secondary market. Many concerns of this type
and the questions brought to the forum, are usually rooted in just a basic lack
of understand of the concepts and ideas of those “fundamentals”. I’ve been reading
this type of thing for as long as I can recall here in the forum.
I’ll sometimes smirk to myself when reading the wild speculations stated as assertions.
Smirk because it’s all too familiar to me from another line of work I once held;
the nature of the struggle to understand that which is right in front of you
Let’s just say that ignorance far too often breeds reckless speculation in this
matter, and leave it there. I imagine the whole social media influencing effect,
doesn’t help the matter much either.
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| | | | | Author: | rickcraine | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Imagine this was an April Fools post and y'all got very fooled
(Disclaimer: this is a joke )
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 12:42 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
|
| In Problem Order, rickcraine writes:
| | In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| | I’m feeling a bit desperate and could really use help with an issue I’m having
with a seller. I purchased 7 minifigures from their store (2 Clone Trooper sw1304,
4 Clone Trooper Captain Rex sw1315, and 1 Sabine Wren sw1303. They arrived over
a month later, and both Clone Troopers had incorrect heads and no visors, all
4 Captain Rex were missing their pauldrons and rangefinders, and Sabine is missing
her rangefinder. When I reached out to the seller, he said those items are not
included because they are “accessories” and not part of the minifigure (the listings
say “does not include accessories”). I have explained repeatedly that everything
listed in a minifigure’s inventory is part of the minifigure, and I have sent
links to BrickLink’s policies to no avail. He is refusing to do anything to remedy
this situation. I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
Here are some exchanges with the seller:
Hello,
I just received my order, and there are multiple problems:
Both of the 2 Clone Trooper sw1304 have the WRONG HEADS. They came with
Chancellor Palpatine sw1306 heads. They are also missing their visors.
All 4 of the Clone Trooper Captain Rex figs are MISSING PAULDRONS and range
finders
Please let me know as soon as possible when you can ship all the missing items.
Since shipping took a long time, can these be shipped with Priority Mail or Express
Shipping?
I look forward to hearing from you.
I list in each sales publication it is specific how the minifigure comes, in
some cases with a lack of accessories and that is why the prices are so low,
although everything is new, you just can't get all the accessories.
Your way of interpreting it is wrong, when you buy a product you must carefully
check its conditions, from the moment you are buying a minifigure you are not
buying a complete set, a Lego minifigure is made up of 1 mini upper part, 1 lower
part , 1 head, and as an extra 1 helmet or hair. And so that you are well informed,
a minifigure is not a product that Lego sells, it is part of a product that Lego
sells.
What you say about shoulder pads, capes and so on, they are accessories, and
in the specifications I say: without accessories.
|
Imagine this was an April Fools post and y'all got very fooled
(Disclaimer: this is a joke )
|
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| | | | | Author: | calebfishn | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 10:57 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 77 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| 1. The seller is not allowed to list incomplete minifigures in a Bricklink store,
no matter what the description may say.
2. You did not get what you paid for. Submit a paypal claim. File an NSS.
3. Post the name of the seller to warn other buyers about unscrupulous behaviour.
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| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 11:26 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 83 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, calebfishn writes:
| | 1. The seller is not allowed to list incomplete minifigures in a Bricklink store,
no matter what the description may say.
2. You did not get what you paid for. Submit a paypal claim. File an NSS.
3. Post the name of the seller to warn other buyers about unscrupulous behaviour.
|
Yes, all of this.
You can report the incomplete listings here:
https://www.bricklink.com/problemInventory.asp
Good luck,
~Jen
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| | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Apr 2, 2024 15:23 | | Subject: | Re: DESPERATE for HELP with shady SELLER! | | Viewed: | 127 times | | Topic: | Problem Order | |
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| In Problem Order, MiniRoz writes:
| |
I filed an NSS and a claim with PayPal, which he is disputing.
My biggest concern is that PayPal likely doesn’t have the time to investigate
the nuances of minifigure inventory or BL policies. He is refusing to acknowledge
this, and claims my interpretation of the policies is incorrect. This hell loop
is seriously stressing me out. Can anyone please offer some guidance on how to
handle this?
|
In case you haven't been advised regarding your original question in what
has become a dumpster fire of a thread:
Sellers almost always dispute a PayPal claim, figuring they have nothing to lose.
PayPal will tell you to mail the order back with tracking. You will have to pay
for return shipping. As soon as the tracking shows as delivered, PayPal will
take the money from the seller and deposit it into your account. So, you will
be out the cost of return shippping and the seller will be out Paypal fees +
Bricklink fees + original shipping costs.
Do not cancel the NSS even if the seller asks you to. Seller will have to take
care of the NSS on his own.
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