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 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.
 Author: Turez View Messages Posted By Turez
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In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Mar 25, 2024 16:16
 Subject: Re: Another Question About Unreleased Items
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In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.

  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Mar 25, 2024 16:24
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.


  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
 Posted: Mar 25, 2024 16:29
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"
 Author: pikachu3 View Messages Posted By pikachu3
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.

For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.

For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.
 Author: Saitobricks.ca View Messages Posted By Saitobricks.ca
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.

For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:

  
  
  For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?


Because they have a brand image to uphold. If you owned a large, international,
billion-dollar company, you might understand.
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In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:

  
  
  For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?


Because they have a brand image to uphold. If you owned a large, international,
billion-dollar company, you might understand.

Hummm
* large, ermm no
* international, YES
* company, YES
I'm so close!!!
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Hummm
* large, ermm no
* international, YES
* company, YES
I'm so close!!!

Have another slice of pizza, you’ll get larger
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:

  
  
  For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?


Because they have a brand image to uphold. If you owned a large, international,
billion-dollar company, you might understand.

Hummm
* large, ermm no
* international, YES
* company, YES
I'm so close!!!


Methinks you forgot the billion-dollar part.
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.

For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?

They are protecting their brand. The Osprey 42113 isn't in the catalog despite
it making it into the hands of some people legitimately.
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In General, Tracyd writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.

For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?

They are protecting their brand. The Osprey 42113 isn't in the catalog despite
it making it into the hands of some people legitimately.

WHHAAATTTT!!!!!
That's not right!
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Tracyd writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.

For all I care, if it says LEGO on it let it in.


Well, that goes for many of us here, but we don't own the site or make the
rules.

My question is, why is TLG so picky?

They are protecting their brand. The Osprey 42113 isn't in the catalog despite
it making it into the hands of some people legitimately.

WHHAAATTTT!!!!!
That's not right!

How is it not right? The legitimate sales were made prior to the official release
date but Lego could not legally recover those. Some were also sent to people
to review. Unreleased sets are not part of the official Lego history. Not sure
if that was before Lego bought BL or not, I seem to remember people complaining
they couldn't sell sets they obtained here and that to keep the goodwill
between Lego and BL it was agreed to not allow them. Same reason people who receive
items to review before the release date agree to not release pictures or reviews
befor a certain date. Thou I can't always trust my memory.
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  My question is, why is TLG so picky?

Their company and site. Ask them, why bother us?
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In General, pikachu3 writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?

  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"

I have had prototype parts that I actually have in-hand rejected from the BrickLink
catalog because they were never officially released. My impression is that those
sets existing in the catalog at all is really just a remnant from a more permissive
BrickLink era.


That is correct. The ones there are grandfathered in, but things are very different
now that the LEGO Group owns BrickLink.
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.

But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.


Have you seen the BrickLink catalog? There is so much stuff here that is not
cataloged anywhere else. Over the 24 years that this site has existed, I would
say that almost anything that any user has had has found its way into the catalog
somehow. And we still get rare and old stuff submitted all of the time. If any
of these sets actually existed, they would have most likely turned up by now.
And like Jonas said, if they do turn up, all they have to do is send a message
or make a request like everyone else who wants to contribute.

Ok, but could you put a note on the items stating, that if you have one to contact
the admins?


I don't believe a note is necessary since the items are already flagged.


  
  
  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?


What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"


How can an unreleased set from 2021 be "legendary"?
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How can an unreleased set from 2021 be "legendary"?

2 to 5 years: legendary.
More than 5 years: mythical.

Ah, to be young again….
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  In General, randyf writes:
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How can an unreleased set from 2021 be "legendary"?

2 to 5 years: legendary.
More than 5 years: mythical.

Ah, to be young again….



But really as a city collector I would love to have that set.
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  […]
How can an unreleased set from 2021 be "legendary"?

2 to 5 years: legendary.
More than 5 years: mythical.

Ah, to be young again….



But really as a city collector I would love to have that set.

Now this is confusing, as a City Collector you would love to own this set, but
you say you have one in hand and want to sell it?
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In General, Tracyd writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, randyf writes:
  […]
How can an unreleased set from 2021 be "legendary"?

2 to 5 years: legendary.
More than 5 years: mythical.

Ah, to be young again….



But really as a city collector I would love to have that set.

Now this is confusing, as a City Collector you would love to own this set, but
you say you have one in hand and want to sell it?

Did I say I own it?
I said I don’t own it and that I just had a set that I would like to add to the
list.
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  What set would that be?

The legendary 60278 Crook's Hideout Raid.

Better known as "the dynamite factory"


How can an unreleased set from 2021 be "legendary"?

Just look at all the yt videos
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.


But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.

  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?

Ps. should these items be added to the list?
 
Part No: 1569  Name: Lamb
* 
1569 Lamb
Parts: Animal, Land
 
Part No: 11575  Name: Dog, Friends, Poodle
* 
11575 Dog, Friends, Poodle
Parts: Animal, Land
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  In General, Turez writes:
  In Catalog Requests, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

If anyone has one of the unreleased items and would like to list it for sale,
they can inform us. Then we'll look into it and remove the "not released"
flag if necessary.


But most sellers won't think of that or have the time to bother.

  
  Since there isn't anything here that we can do from the catalog side regarding
the unreleased items (we can neither change the wording nor the listing policy),
I have moved this thread to "General".

I do have a set to be added to the unreleased catagoy though.
(No I don't have it, but I know of it)
Where do I add it?

Ps. should these items be added to the list?
 
Part No: 1569  Name: Lamb
* 
1569 Lamb
Parts: Animal, Land
 
Part No: 11575  Name: Dog, Friends, Poodle
* 
11575 Dog, Friends, Poodle
Parts: Animal, Land


No. They are just undecorated versions of items that were released. They definitely
exist, because they have to exist as a plain part first before being printed.
And some are just test run colors to test molds.
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In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
  Was thinking more about the doomed sets in the unreleased catagory, and went
for a second look.

I clicked on a item and noticed that the banner on the top said, "This Item
was Likely Not Released".

Key word for me "LIKELY".
How are we supposed to know for sure if a item was not released if no one can
put one up for sale?!?

So my request is that you allow sellers to sell the item, but only in the conditions
of sealed or new.

Some of these were released or more likely leaked. In fact I think MOST of
the sets in this category saw some level of distribution official or otherwise.
For example I have MSIB the Christmas set with Santa and Mrs. Clause that was
supposed to be a free give away a few years back. It as far as I know has no
official listing here or on lego.com. I brought this up in a forum post some
years ago and people got quite angry that I acquired an "illegal" set
and was told then that they would never allow a listing on BL since it was leaked
not released. Over the years I have found 3 such items that are in my collection:

1526 Space set in box opened
3872 Exo-Force in polybag MSIB
40489 Christmas Set MSIB (2X)

I also have set 6500 but it has no box...so I don't include it. The instructions
appear official but as of now I cannot confirm the authenticity entirely.

Additionally, many users have mentioned in the past seeing the unreleased cage
match for the original spider-man (1375) run as part of a TRU display back in
the day...although nobody I know has ever confirmed the set itself. The display
itself has come up for auction from time to time.

Lego and by extension BL seem to not want them listed in my experience. Probably
due to the ethical implications of them being leaked, smuggled or flat out stolen
from sources if a release was never made officially. Which I can understand.