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 Author: Familybuild View Messages Posted By Familybuild
 Posted: Mar 15, 2024 08:34
 Subject: Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2
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Familybuild (99)

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Hi folks.

Yesterday i received an order of a regular customer.

He ordered parts from the 1x1 square tile , and 1x2 tile.

If i packed the order blindly i would have sent him the with groove variant.

The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.

The tile's where not on the list for merging?
Or maby on the "original" list but scrapped from merging i believe.

This is causing a major headache.


But because i know this customer almost exclusive buys old parts.
I messaged him about this problem and indeed he needed the without groove variant.


Please clearify this.

Also i would like to know why remarks are not consolidated?
Is this because bricklink will sent me a guy/girl that will relocate any "lost"
pieces in ghost drawers?

As a strategist i tend to see a long term goal to relocate people from second
hand market towards the PAB wall. A fee from a bricklink sale is way less then
the full cut they get other wise. People can only take so much "pain"
to look for older parts and are not willing to invest an increasing amount of
time to complete something. Also the complete silence from TLG regarding the
upcomming and current turbulences from this merge are quite worrying to me.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best wishes
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Mar 15, 2024 08:50
 Subject: Re: Tile 1x1 / tile 1x2
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yorbrick (1182)

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  The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.

The tile's where not on the list for merging?

They haven't been merged there are still separate entries for normal (with
groove) and without groove.

 
Part No: 3070  Name: Tile 1 x 1
* 
3070 Tile 1 x 1
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3070a  Name: Tile 1 x 1 without Groove
* 
3070a Tile 1 x 1 without Groove
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3069  Name: Tile 1 x 2
* 
3069 Tile 1 x 2
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3069a  Name: Tile 1 x 2 without Groove
* 
3069a Tile 1 x 2 without Groove
Parts: Tile

They have been renamed to remove the "with groove" from the modern part
(well, 40 years old, but non-vintage part), and also renumbered from 3069b to
3069 and so on, so that the BL number correctly references the number that has
been used for about four decades and is not influenced by a part that hasn't
been produced for almost half a century.
 Author: Dino View Messages Posted By Dino
 Posted: Mar 15, 2024 09:05
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Dino (478)

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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  
  The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.

The tile's where not on the list for merging?

They haven't been merged there are still separate entries for normal (with
groove) and without groove.

 
Part No: 3070  Name: Tile 1 x 1
* 
3070 Tile 1 x 1
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3070a  Name: Tile 1 x 1 without Groove
* 
3070a Tile 1 x 1 without Groove
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3069  Name: Tile 1 x 2
* 
3069 Tile 1 x 2
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3069a  Name: Tile 1 x 2 without Groove
* 
3069a Tile 1 x 2 without Groove
Parts: Tile

They have been renamed to remove the "with groove" from the modern part
(well, 40 years old, but non-vintage part), and also renumbered from 3069b to
3069 and so on, so that the BL number correctly references the number that has
been used for about four decades and is not influenced by a part that hasn't
been produced for almost half a century.

3070a should actually be 3070 and 3070 should be 3070a. The same with 3069/3069a.
3070a has been around since 1965, 3070 only since 1972. 3 letters would also
be saved.
But what can you ask of the catalogue administrators in the meantime...
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Mar 15, 2024 09:13
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  3070a should actually be 3070 and 3070 should be 3070a. The same with 3069/3069a.
3070a has been around since 1965, 3070 only since 1972. 3 letters would also
be saved.
But what can you ask of the catalogue administrators in the meantime...

I disagree. It should not be based on what came first, especially where the change
between them predates Bricklink and the internet. Nobody was calling these 3070
and 3070a in 1973 or in 1983 or in 1993. The 'modern' part had been in
existence for decades before bricklink was started and so it would have made
sense to call the modern part 3070 and the vintage one 3070a or 3070old. Most
people looking for a 3070 would want the modern part, not the vintage one. It
makes sense to use the LEGO part number for the most common version or current
version.
 Author: hpoort View Messages Posted By hpoort
 Posted: Mar 15, 2024 13:30
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In Inventories, Dino writes:
  In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  
  The variants with and without groove seem to have merged.

The tile's where not on the list for merging?

They haven't been merged there are still separate entries for normal (with
groove) and without groove.

 
Part No: 3070  Name: Tile 1 x 1
* 
3070 Tile 1 x 1
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3070a  Name: Tile 1 x 1 without Groove
* 
3070a Tile 1 x 1 without Groove
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3069  Name: Tile 1 x 2
* 
3069 Tile 1 x 2
Parts: Tile

 
Part No: 3069a  Name: Tile 1 x 2 without Groove
* 
3069a Tile 1 x 2 without Groove
Parts: Tile

They have been renamed to remove the "with groove" from the modern part
(well, 40 years old, but non-vintage part), and also renumbered from 3069b to
3069 and so on, so that the BL number correctly references the number that has
been used for about four decades and is not influenced by a part that hasn't
been produced for almost half a century.

3070a should actually be 3070 and 3070 should be 3070a. The same with 3069/3069a.
3070a has been around since 1965, 3070 only since 1972. 3 letters would also
be saved.
But what can you ask of the catalogue administrators in the meantime...

According to Russell, the 3069b and 3070b were never the grooved variety but
have always been the umbrella entity. The chosen renumbering reflects that.