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| | | Author: | brickerking  | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 22:58 | | Subject: | Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 200 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Ran across a seller that sells stickers they have removed from parts and lists
as used, incomplete sticker sheets. Is that allowed?
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| | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 00:20 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 99 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | Ran across a seller that sells stickers they have removed from parts and lists
as used, incomplete sticker sheets. Is that allowed?
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As long as the seller says that they've been removed from parts and lists
the stickers as used, then I think it's within the rules. However, I can't
imagine anyone wanting to by such stickers, unless they're really old or
rare ones.
David
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| | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 09:44 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | Ran across a seller that sells stickers they have removed from parts and lists
as used, incomplete sticker sheets. Is that allowed?
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As long as the seller says that they've been removed from parts and lists
the stickers as used, then I think it's within the rules. However, I can't
imagine anyone wanting to by such stickers, unless they're really old or
rare ones.
David
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Right, I guess it’s a two part question:
1. is selling incomplete sticker sheets allowed?
2. Is selling stickers pulled off pieces allowed?
So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
I think i’ve had sticker sheets removed from my store that were just incomplete,
but I cant remember for sure.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 10:08 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | Ran across a seller that sells stickers they have removed from parts and lists
as used, incomplete sticker sheets. Is that allowed?
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As long as the seller says that they've been removed from parts and lists
the stickers as used, then I think it's within the rules. However, I can't
imagine anyone wanting to by such stickers, unless they're really old or
rare ones.
David
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Right, I guess it’s a two part question:
1. is selling incomplete sticker sheets allowed?
2. Is selling stickers pulled off pieces allowed?
So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
I think i’ve had sticker sheets removed from my store that were just incomplete,
but I cant remember for sure.
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BL may remove an incomplete sticker sheet if it was listed as New. I've had
this happen, list as used with a clear description and an image of the exact
sheet you are selling.
I just parted out a used large Technics car that has a lot of stickers
applied across multiple parts (I don/t think the stickered assys. are listed).
Carefully removed, adhesive stayed with the stickers, placed them on a waxy backer
sheet, scanned an image and listed as used. I do not see a problem with this
method.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 10:38 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
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Ah, I see. If the seller didn't add an extended description letting buyers
know that the sticker was used and then pulled off of a part and was unable
to be restuck, then that seller had a bad listing.
Sellers can list anything as used, but if it's unable to function how it's
intended to, then they have to describe that in the item's extended description.
Of course, used stickers are far more unlikely to be reused than parts,
gear, etc, so it's even more important for sellers to describe those accurately.
David
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 12:48 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
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Ah, I see. If the seller didn't add an extended description letting buyers
know that the sticker was used and then pulled off of a part and was unable
to be restuck, then that seller had a bad listing.
Sellers can list anything as used, but if it's unable to function how it's
intended to, then they have to describe that in the item's extended description.
Of course, used stickers are far more unlikely to be reused than parts,
gear, etc, so it's even more important for sellers to describe those accurately.
David
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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The requirement states:
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used."
To me that's vague enough to include re-applied peeled off stickers.
edk makes a good point:
"Carefully removed, adhesive stayed with the stickers, placed them on a waxy
backer
sheet, scanned an image and listed as used. I do not see a problem with this
method."
Also, what about high quality stickers that were applied to the wrong part?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 14:08 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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The requirement states:
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used."
To me that's vague enough to include re-applied peeled off stickers.
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That’s talking about sticker sheets - so one would think the original sticker
sheet is included and some stickers are missing. It’s not talking about previously
applied stickers at all. It’s not vague, per say, just not addressing this issue.
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edk makes a good point:
"Carefully removed, adhesive stayed with the stickers, placed them on a waxy
backer
sheet, scanned an image and listed as used. I do not see a problem with this
method."
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If there was a listing for just that sticker then, yes that makes sense, but
there isn’t. This would be listed as a used sticker sheet. Where’s the sticker
sheet in this equation. Was this the intention of sticker sheet listings?
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Also, what about high quality stickers that were applied to the wrong part?
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What about high quality parts that are broken… i throw them out personally -
because i wouldn't be happy to receive it.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 15:24 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
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The requirement states:
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used."
To me that's vague enough to include re-applied peeled off stickers.
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That’s talking about sticker sheets - so one would think the original sticker
sheet is included and some stickers are missing. It’s not talking about previously
applied stickers at all. It’s not vague, per say, just not addressing this issue.
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If the intent is to allow only original sticker sheets with one or more missing
but otherwise unused stickers to be listed (as used) then the requirement should
say so. Otherwise I don't see an issue as long as there is an accurate description.
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Also, what about high quality stickers that were applied to the wrong part?
What about high quality parts that are broken… i throw them out personally -
because i wouldn't be happy to receive it.
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The part in your example is unusable. The sticker is not.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 02:03 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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The requirement states:
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used."
To me that's vague enough to include re-applied peeled off stickers.
edk makes a good point:
"Carefully removed, adhesive stayed with the stickers, placed them on a waxy
backer
sheet, scanned an image and listed as used. I do not see a problem with this
method."
Also, what about high quality stickers that were applied to the wrong part?
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So just to follow up on this one...
I asked the help desk:
Can I list an incomplete set of peeled off stickers stored on wax paper as a
used sticker sheet with notes and a photo?
They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 09:13 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
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So just to follow up on this one...
I asked the help desk:
Can I list an incomplete set of peeled off stickers stored on wax paper as a
used sticker sheet with notes and a photo?
They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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The help language was changed:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
It now reads (second sentence is new):
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used. Individual stickers
not attached to the original sticker sheet must be listed as Custom Items."
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 09:37 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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So just to follow up on this one...
I asked the help desk:
Can I list an incomplete set of peeled off stickers stored on wax paper as a
used sticker sheet with notes and a photo?
They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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The help language was changed:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
It now reads (second sentence is new):
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used. Individual stickers
not attached to the original sticker sheet must be listed as Custom Items."
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Didn’t notice this, thanks!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 09:54 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | "Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used. Individual stickers
not attached to the original sticker sheet must be listed as Custom Items."
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This is good - they shouldn't be listed as sticker sheets since they don't
come with the original sheet.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Admin_Russell | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 10:44 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 114 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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So just to follow up on this one...
I asked the help desk:
Can I list an incomplete set of peeled off stickers stored on wax paper as a
used sticker sheet with notes and a photo?
They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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The help language was changed:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
It now reads (second sentence is new):
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used. Individual stickers
not attached to the original sticker sheet must be listed as Custom Items."
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Yes, as a result of the complaints against these sticker listings, we have decided
to address the issue in the listing rules.
The main problem with individual stickers separated from the sheet is that we
don't have catalog entries for them. It is simply a practical concession
that we allow sheets with missing stickers to be sold as used, since for the
most part, used complete stickers sheets are very uncommon and of questionable
market value.
In the listings that were pulled down, the used stickers were placed on felt
and this is not great, with the fibers from the felt getting stuck to the back
of the sticker. Wax paper (freezer paper) is better since this is similar to
the surface the stickers were originally stuck to.
However, I do believe there is a valid market for used stickers for vintage sets,
especially some of the plastic based stickers (e.g. Fabuland). So I will be consulting
with our Marketplace and Catalog teams to see if we can make a provision for
listing them in some way under the sticker entry and not as custom items.
Until we make a decision on this, we won't be removing any more used sticker
listings.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 11:19 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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So just to follow up on this one...
I asked the help desk:
Can I list an incomplete set of peeled off stickers stored on wax paper as a
used sticker sheet with notes and a photo?
They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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The help language was changed:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
It now reads (second sentence is new):
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used. Individual stickers
not attached to the original sticker sheet must be listed as Custom Items."
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Yes, as a result of the complaints against these sticker listings, we have decided
to address the issue in the listing rules.
The main problem with individual stickers separated from the sheet is that we
don't have catalog entries for them. It is simply a practical concession
that we allow sheets with missing stickers to be sold as used, since for the
most part, used complete stickers sheets are very uncommon and of questionable
market value.
In the listings that were pulled down, the used stickers were placed on felt
and this is not great, with the fibers from the felt getting stuck to the back
of the sticker. Wax paper (freezer paper) is better since this is similar to
the surface the stickers were originally stuck to.
However, I do believe there is a valid market for used stickers for vintage sets,
especially some of the plastic based stickers (e.g. Fabuland). So I will be consulting
with our Marketplace and Catalog teams to see if we can make a provision for
listing them in some way under the sticker entry and not as custom items.
Until we make a decision on this, we won't be removing any more used sticker
listings.
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Thanks Russel,
I understand a few sellers have spent a lot of time on these, taking photos,
sourcing wax paper, writing descriptions and it would be very frustrating to
have these just removed.
It’s also frustrating for potential buyers to add a sticker sheet to a wanted
list, buy the wanted list automatically and then receive something they were
not expecting because there is too much that can be altered from the original
sticker sheet listing.
Thanks for taking the time to discuss a better solution for everyone.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 11:51 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Admin_Russell writes:
| | In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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So just to follow up on this one...
I asked the help desk:
Can I list an incomplete set of peeled off stickers stored on wax paper as a
used sticker sheet with notes and a photo?
They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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The help language was changed:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
It now reads (second sentence is new):
"Sticker sheets missing stickers must be listed as used. Individual stickers
not attached to the original sticker sheet must be listed as Custom Items."
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Yes, as a result of the complaints against these sticker listings, we have decided
to address the issue in the listing rules.
The main problem with individual stickers separated from the sheet is that we
don't have catalog entries for them. It is simply a practical concession
that we allow sheets with missing stickers to be sold as used, since for the
most part, used complete stickers sheets are very uncommon and of questionable
market value.
In the listings that were pulled down, the used stickers were placed on felt
and this is not great, with the fibers from the felt getting stuck to the back
of the sticker. Wax paper (freezer paper) is better since this is similar to
the surface the stickers were originally stuck to.
However, I do believe there is a valid market for used stickers for vintage sets,
especially some of the plastic based stickers (e.g. Fabuland). So I will be consulting
with our Marketplace and Catalog teams to see if we can make a provision for
listing them in some way under the sticker entry and not as custom items.
Until we make a decision on this, we won't be removing any more used sticker
listings.
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Thanks, I initially listed the stickers referenced as a custom then moved it
to the Used sticker listing figuring it would have a much better chance of being
seen. I have hundreds of stickers removed from parts but have not listed them
due to the fact that they are common and there are many low priced New available.
The exceptions I make are sticker sheets that are in low supply, are used in
unlisted complex assemblies, I have most/all of what were contained on the full
sheet, stickers are like new with the adhesive intact. There are also times when
I get a sticker sheet that only had one sticker removed that I have sold as incomplete/used.
There is a market, not huge but sometimes it can be the only option available.
If there were complete or partial checkboxes to use for the used sticker sheet
listings that would be sufficient. Even better would be to eliminate the option
to use the catalog stock image and require an actual image.
Ed
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 09:16 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
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They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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I wouldn't have done this. Why not message the sellers first and give them
the chance to care of it themselves?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 09:33 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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I wouldn't have done this. Why not message the sellers first and give them
the chance to care of it themselves?
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I had a bad experience with this seller, that’s why.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2024 09:36 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | In Selling, zorbanj writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
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They got back to me and said it would need to be listed as a custom item.
So then I reported a couple other stickers listed in the above condition and
they were all removed from the store within a couple days.
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I wouldn't have done this. Why not message the sellers first and give them
the chance to care of it themselves?
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I had a bad experience with this seller, that’s why.
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Ah, ok, that's a very good reason.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
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Ah, I see. If the seller didn't add an extended description letting buyers
know that the sticker was used and then pulled off of a part and was unable
to be restuck, then that seller had a bad listing.
Sellers can list anything as used, but if it's unable to function how it's
intended to, then they have to describe that in the item's extended description.
Of course, used stickers are far more unlikely to be reused than parts,
gear, etc, so it's even more important for sellers to describe those accurately.
David
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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Look at my listing for the stickers I mentioned. Nothing misleading. Also if
you had an understanding of the complex assembly they were applied to would help.
Not just across 2 bricks. Take in account there were 6 sheets for sale priced
$12-$25 I figured someone would be happy to get these for the $6. If there were
individual sticker listings I would have used that but the way I did it is the
best option available.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 14:32 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, edk writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
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Ah, I see. If the seller didn't add an extended description letting buyers
know that the sticker was used and then pulled off of a part and was unable
to be restuck, then that seller had a bad listing.
Sellers can list anything as used, but if it's unable to function how it's
intended to, then they have to describe that in the item's extended description.
Of course, used stickers are far more unlikely to be reused than parts,
gear, etc, so it's even more important for sellers to describe those accurately.
David
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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Look at my listing for the stickers I mentioned. Nothing misleading. Also if
you had an understanding of the complex assembly they were applied to would help.
Not just across 2 bricks. Take in account there were 6 sheets for sale priced
$12-$25 I figured someone would be happy to get these for the $6. If there were
individual sticker listings I would have used that but the way I did it is the
best option available.
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Arg... my ipad ran out of juice and I lost my reply. Here it is in a nutshell:
You are not trying to be misleading, you are doing everything you can within
the confines of listing stickers to present the truth.
However, when one is buying a used sticker sheet, I don't think the assumption
is that the buyer will receive stickers that have already been stuck on parts
and then peeled off with no sticker sheet included. That's why peeled off
stickers are not mentioned at all on the condition listing help page. LEGO stickers
are not marketed as reusable and in most cases, they are not. Sticker backing
glue cannot be measured to guarantee stickiness. 
Also, when taking a picture of the stickers, you can't post two photos showing
the front and back, so it's not actually full disclosure.
The limitation here is that there is no category for stickers outside the sticker
sheet (nor am I advocating for that). So that means being misleading is inherent
to listing stickers without a sticker sheet.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | edk | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 09:20 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | In Selling, edk writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | In Selling, crazylegoman writes:
| | In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | So this came up after i ordered a sticker sheet from a seller, not realizing
it was incomplete and receiving just one sticker that was obviously pulled off
a piece, shipped on a felt backer, and was dirty on the sticky side (which was
no longer sticky). I’m just having a hard time understanding if this is an intended
use case for stickers on BL (regardless of the condition i received my sticker
in).
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Ah, I see. If the seller didn't add an extended description letting buyers
know that the sticker was used and then pulled off of a part and was unable
to be restuck, then that seller had a bad listing.
Sellers can list anything as used, but if it's unable to function how it's
intended to, then they have to describe that in the item's extended description.
Of course, used stickers are far more unlikely to be reused than parts,
gear, etc, so it's even more important for sellers to describe those accurately.
David
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OK, I see that sticker sheets can be sold if incomplete as used: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
I don't think selling stickers peeled off lego parts and sold as incomplete
sticker sheets should be a thing. To me, it seems misleading. They should be
listed on the parts they were found on as stickered parts. If that part isn't
in the catalog, add it. This is a lazy loophole that should be fixed.
Since LEGO stickers are not intended to be removed (they are not marketed as
reusable as far as I know), why can they be listed after removal from a part?
Doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you can list broken lego parts if they
are clearly marked that way, and maybe that's the justification, but why?
A sticker sheet is a physical thing. If the original sticker sheet from lego
is absent, then can a few peeled off stickers from that sticker sheet still be
called a sticker sheet? I don't believe expectations are being met by listing
peeled off stickers as used sticker sheets.
Please tell me why i'm wrong.
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Look at my listing for the stickers I mentioned. Nothing misleading. Also if
you had an understanding of the complex assembly they were applied to would help.
Not just across 2 bricks. Take in account there were 6 sheets for sale priced
$12-$25 I figured someone would be happy to get these for the $6. If there were
individual sticker listings I would have used that but the way I did it is the
best option available.
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Arg... my ipad ran out of juice and I lost my reply. Here it is in a nutshell:
You are not trying to be misleading, you are doing everything you can within
the confines of listing stickers to present the truth.
However, when one is buying a used sticker sheet, I don't think the assumption
is that the buyer will receive stickers that have already been stuck on parts
and then peeled off with no sticker sheet included. That's why peeled off
stickers are not mentioned at all on the condition listing help page. LEGO stickers
are not marketed as reusable and in most cases, they are not. Sticker backing
glue cannot be measured to guarantee stickiness.
Also, when taking a picture of the stickers, you can't post two photos showing
the front and back, so it's not actually full disclosure.
The limitation here is that there is no category for stickers outside the sticker
sheet (nor am I advocating for that). So that means being misleading is inherent
to listing stickers without a sticker sheet.
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Never in my wildest dreams did I think someone would need to see the white backside
of a sticker. I am supplying an actual image so people know what they are buying
whereas on bricklink over 99% of the sold items do NOT show the actual image
just the generic catalog image.
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| | | | | Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 16:19 | | Subject: | Re: Selling Removed Stickers | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I was just uploading used parts with printing or stickers. I know people want
them for finishing a bricklinked set. But this category is one I loathe. I
was contemplating removing the stickers and selling the parts because they take
up a lot of space, require a lot of time to list and I don't get very many
orders for them. This gives me an alterative option that I might try with a few
themes.
Sometimes I get a badly placed or incorrect part sticker that needs to be re-applied.
I use a blow-dryer to heat and soften the sticker. Then it comes off with all
of it's stickiness and I can re-apply more accurately or to the correct part.
I have saved stickers to a zip bag exterior and they are in great shape to re-apply.
Thanks,
Donna
In Selling, brickerking writes:
| | Ran across a seller that sells stickers they have removed from parts and lists
as used, incomplete sticker sheets. Is that allowed?
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