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| | | Author: | Erikmax  | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 18:56 | | Subject: | BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 409 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Hi
This below may be a duplicate warning.
We got an e-mail that ' someone logged in to my account', 'contact
support' and then "Log device out of your account'.
Sender: support@brickslink.org
So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
Regards
Erik
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 18:57 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 109 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 19:37 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 85 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Erikmax writes:
| | Hi
This below may be a duplicate warning.
We got an e-mail that ' someone logged in to my account', 'contact
support' and then "Log device out of your account'.
Sender: support@brickslink.org
So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
Regards
Erik
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They have - posted in the forum and sent an email
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| | | | | | | Author: | Daragh | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 21:36 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Was the genuine email that Bricklink send a link to follow?
I got one but deleted it, surely a genuine link about a scam should not be another
link to follow??
In General, peregrinator writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | Hi
This below may be a duplicate warning.
We got an e-mail that ' someone logged in to my account', 'contact
support' and then "Log device out of your account'.
Sender: support@brickslink.org
So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
Regards
Erik
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They have - posted in the forum and sent an email
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 22:08 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Daragh writes:
| | Was the genuine email that Bricklink send a link to follow?
I got one but deleted it, surely a genuine link about a scam should not be another
link to follow??
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The one they sent out on Monday, March 4th? (Subject: BrickLink phishing email)
Yes, that email does contain a link to the following help page regarding One-Time
Pin (OTP) for sellers: https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2615
But the body of the email does not ask you to click on or open the link; it merely
cautions against logging in from links sent in suspicious emails and advises
sellers to enable OTP to add an additional layer of protection to their account.
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| | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 19:45 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 88 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:18 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | Bricklink is going further down the garbage chute day by day... wtf is going
on?
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Don't blame Bricklink. The #$*!)*@ hackers don't care who they impact,
just about the money they can rip-off from honest hard-working individuals.
Bricklink is a target due to their success, the user base, and $$ flowing through
the platform.
As a long time IT professional, I can confidently say, the support teams (dev,
security, admin, etc) behind the sight have their hands full keeping the platform
safe.
The continuous game of whack-a-mole they have to play would surprise most people
and drive many crazy. For every event or attempt there are 50-100 you never
hear about because the support team is on the ball.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:25 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, DanialR writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | Bricklink is going further down the garbage chute day by day... wtf is going
on?
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Don't blame Bricklink. The #$*!)*@ hackers don't care who they impact,
just about the money they can rip-off from honest hard-working individuals.
Bricklink is a target due to their success, the user base, and $$ flowing through
the platform.
As a long time IT professional, I can confidently say, the support teams (dev,
security, admin, etc) behind the sight have their hands full keeping the platform
safe.
The continuous game of whack-a-mole they have to play would surprise most people
and drive many crazy. For every event or attempt there are 50-100 you never
hear about because the support team is on the ball.
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Eaxactly all this - thank you.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:23 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | Bricklink is going further down the garbage chute day by day... wtf is going
on?
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That's stupid to blame BrickLink.
For 24 hrs our French Administrations services are also under an heavy
load of cyber attacks.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:42 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 74 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:49 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | That's stupid to blame BrickLink.
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No it isn't
They've been letting spam accounts run rampant for the past year despite
announcing a "fix" coming "soon"
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Very true of late. 
| | MrEvil from Ukraine was supposedly the culprit, he's been banned since August
2023, and the spam continues... somehow we're supposed to think they care
about keeping the site safe?
If they can't even deal with simple forum spam, how the hell are we to trust
them with our account security?
One gummy post almost made it for a half hour!
"Oh just report it so the forum mods can deal with it"
Yeah, rely on the volunteers instead of paying your security team to come up
with a premanent fix for it... makes total sense
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They try but the solution is too temporary.
People are more likely to listen if you are more diplomatic. (Which is very hard
sometimes)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:54 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:58 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | People are more likely to listen if you are more diplomatic. (Which is very hard sometimes)
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I've tried that and get the same type of reply or treated like I'm
braindead
I'm beyond frustrated with leadership at this point
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Leadership everywhere (especially “here”  ) has just been awful.
The admins should just call TLG and get these issues fixed.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 75 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | People are more likely to listen if you are more diplomatic. (Which is very hard sometimes)
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I've tried that and get the same type of reply or treated like I'm
braindead
I'm beyond frustrated with leadership at this point
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Keep banging the drums, it's the only way to be heard! There are so many
apologizers for BL on the forum it seems like no one is listening, but it's
the only forum we have.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 17:49 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | People are more likely to listen if you are more diplomatic. (Which is very hard sometimes)
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I've tried that and get the same type of reply or treated like I'm
braindead
I'm beyond frustrated with leadership at this point
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Keep banging the drums, it's the only way to be heard!
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Heard? Heard about what? What do you wish?
Maybe BrickLink should forbid ANY domain name to be created by anyone in the
world?
Or they'd buy all of them?
Like "krickbink.com" or "blinkbrick.com" or...?
What could they do about what OP said?
Or is just a "I'm not happy" thought?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 17:52 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, brickerking writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | People are more likely to listen if you are more diplomatic. (Which is very hard sometimes)
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I've tried that and get the same type of reply or treated like I'm
braindead
I'm beyond frustrated with leadership at this point
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Keep banging the drums, it's the only way to be heard!
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Heard? Heard about what? What do you wish?
Maybe BrickLink should forbid ANY domain name to be created by anyone in the
world?
Or they'd buy all of them?
Like "krickbink.com" or "blinkbrick.com" or...?
What could they do about what OP said?
Or is just a "I'm not happy" thought?
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Yup
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 18:07 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, brickerking writes:
yup.com? yup.org? yup.ca? yuup? yupp?…
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 18:11 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 82 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 21:00 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | There are so many apologizers for BL on the forum it seems like no one is listening, but it's the only forum we have.
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Some people shill so hard you'd think they're being paid to do it, it's
insane
It's okay to criticize something you love, and I'm sure there are others
that feel similar but stay quiet as to avoid conflict - and to be honest, I still
walk on eggshells and bite my tongue to avoid risking a ban on here
I've never seen people so complacent and accepting of bot spam in my life
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(Thumper Mode: OFF)
Those supporting the efforts of the Bricklink Team are not shills nor are we
accepting of bot spam.
Many of us have extensive experience in the tech industry and understand the
challenges going on behind the scenes.
We know how frustrating it can be when a few noisy people try to denigrate the
efforts when they have no clue about the scope of the problem or the efforts
to find a permanent resolution.
(Thumper Mode: ON)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 21:49 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, DanialR writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | There are so many apologizers for BL on the forum it seems like no one is listening, but it's the only forum we have.
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Some people shill so hard you'd think they're being paid to do it, it's
insane
It's okay to criticize something you love, and I'm sure there are others
that feel similar but stay quiet as to avoid conflict - and to be honest, I still
walk on eggshells and bite my tongue to avoid risking a ban on here
I've never seen people so complacent and accepting of bot spam in my life
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(Thumper Mode: OFF)
Those supporting the efforts of the Bricklink Team are not shills nor are we
accepting of bot spam.
Many of us have extensive experience in the tech industry and understand the
challenges going on behind the scenes.
We know how frustrating it can be when a few noisy people try to denigrate the
efforts when they have no clue about the scope of the problem or the efforts
to find a permanent resolution.
(Thumper Mode: ON)
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Please, talk down to us more, it’s really convincing. 
You just keep pretending that BL operates solely the way you think it does and
for your best interest. The rest of us will stay curious and not pretend.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:35 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 01:39 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 68 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | If there are people here that have "extensive experience in the tech industry"
(reinstalling Adobe Reader doesn't count) then they should give their input
and let Bricklink know how to set up a captcha or other form of verification
so hour-old accounts can't spam scam links day in and day out
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 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Implementing a CATCHA is not trivial. If not done properly can make the site
less secure than it is today.
The codes base has had multiple developers in its lifetime. Developers are not
the best at documenting their code. You end up with what is referred to as spaghetti
code; a twisted tangled mess with secret sauce keeping it all together. I would
estimate there is 3-5 million lines of code behind the site. By comparison a
typical NY Times bestselling novel has 80k to 110k words.
As for experience, 40+ years in the IT industry. 15+ years as a Systems Engineer;
designing, implementing, and supporting some of the largest web sites on the
internet. On the front lines playing cat-n-mouse with the hackers. On call
working 48+ hours straight recovering a major financial portal from what was
at the time the largest internet virus. Watched the entire internet in the US
get taken to its knees when a country's golden boy got beat in the Olympics
and their hacker population started a massive DDOS attack on the Top Level Domain
Controllers in the US.
You don't hear anything from the Support Team on what they are doing behind
the scenes to get past the recent issues for a very good reason. The worst thing
you can do is share publicly your plans on how to secure the site. The moment
you share the info, the hackers start working on how to defeat the security measures.
The cat-n-mouse game with hacker's is like a game of chess. You have to
keep your eyes on the big picture. Reacting to the early loses will not position
you for long term victory.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 12:37 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, DanialR writes:
| | If not done properly can make the site
less secure than it is today.
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I vote they do it properly. In my experience, corporate IT guys create their
own limitations because they speak tech and their bosses don't. Just get
'er done!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Saitobricks.ca | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 14:15 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | Those supporting the efforts of the Bricklink Team are not shills nor are we accepting of bot spam.
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There are a few people that have blown the bot spam off as nothing and tell us
to ignore it, as if it's acceptable that a marketplace owned by a billion-dollar
company can have advertisements for CBD gummies & tons of other crap spammed
daily
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Heres a simple answer, you can't post a link if you have no feedback.
No feedback, no links. People asking for help don't need to post links to
get help.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 23:24 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | Those supporting the efforts of the Bricklink Team are not shills nor are we accepting of bot spam.
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There are a few people that have blown the bot spam off as nothing and tell us
to ignore it, as if it's acceptable that a marketplace owned by a billion-dollar
company can have advertisements for CBD gummies & tons of other crap spammed
daily
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Heres a simple answer, you can't post a link if you have no feedback.
No feedback, no links. People asking for help don't need to post links to
get help.
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Can't, can't, can't. Two words that means no hard work will ever
be done: spaghetti code
(and all the IT guys now nod their heads and say, yup, yup yup)
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | They should just hire a bunch of Italians to deal with the spaghetti code
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 14, 2024 02:33 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | They should just hire a bunch of Italians to deal with the spaghetti code
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Or at least some Boston Pizza servers!
After all, pizza is the solution to everything, right? Maybe add a little mustard
if that will help - dijon ketchups too.
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | They should just hire a bunch of Italians to deal with the spaghetti code
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Or at least some Boston Pizza servers!
After all, pizza is the solution to everything, right? Maybe add a little mustard
if that will help - dijon ketchups too.
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Pizza would help but the mustard would make it worse!
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, brickerking writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | They should just hire a bunch of Italians to deal with the spaghetti code
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Or at least some Boston Pizza servers!
After all, pizza is the solution to everything, right? Maybe add a little mustard
if that will help - dijon ketchups too.
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Pizza would help but the mustard would make it worse!
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Pizza and mustard are a combo code that will end with bugs crawling through it.
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | They should just hire a bunch of Italians to deal with the spaghetti code
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | They should just hire a bunch of Italians to deal with the spaghetti code
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They did last November, but it didn't go very well and they ended up taking
the site offline for a few days.
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Can't, can't, can't. Two words that means no hard work will ever
be done: spaghetti code
(and all the IT guys now nod their heads and say, yup, yup yup)
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Your interpretation of Spaghetti Code is off base. Spaghetti Code can be edited/updated
but it takes much longer than clean, well-documented code.
My reference to Spaghetti Code and the size of the code base was to try and give
some sense of the challenge the current developers face when fixing problems.
There is another factor beyond the condition of the code base that will affect
how long it will take to fix issues. The site was built on top of 20+ year old
technology using a language that has fallen out of favor. From what I have seen
by peeking under the hood with some browser-based testing tools the past few
months, there is a lot of work taking place to update the site using modern languages
and clean-up the spaghetti code.
Thinking Captcha is easily implemented would be like thinking Notre Dame can
be rebuilt in a few months. You have to peel back many layers of changes to
understand if a fix is going to undermine the structure in other places.
I and others are not being apologists or shills for Bricklink; we're realists
understanding true change will take time and will require some patience.
Do I like the spam, CBD ads, etc? NO!!!!!, but if reporting them when I see a
new one is the cost of allowing the Dev Team to focus on long term fixes then
it is a price I'm willing to accept. If the price becomes too great then
I have choices, Bricklink is not the only game in town.
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| In General, DanialR writes:
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thinking Notre Dame can be rebuilt in a few months.
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Off-topic: it only took a few years and it’s scheduled to reopen on December
7th
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| In General, DanialR writes:
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Can't, can't, can't. Two words that means no hard work will ever
be done: spaghetti code
(and all the IT guys now nod their heads and say, yup, yup yup)
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Do I like the spam, CBD ads, etc? NO!!!!!, but if reporting them when I see a
new one is the cost of allowing the Dev Team to focus on long term fixes then
it is a price I'm willing to accept. If the price becomes too great then
I have choices, Bricklink is not the only game in town.
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Sure, we can just throw BL away. That's the easy way out. This is a throw-away
society, I guess. But wouldn't it be better to fight for this community that
we're all apart of. Wouldn't it be great to discuss the things that suck
about BL and make a case that they need to be fixed? That's all this thread
is about. Not, whether it's possible to enable capcha or not. It's about
the right for people to speak their minds and be heard instead of shut down by
those who just apologize for BL all day long. Why do we need to apologize for
the BL dev team? Why can't we instead insist that maybe they need a larger
dev team with bigger goals!
After all, even Notre Dam was re-opened after a few years: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1459460
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| In General, brickerking writes:
Not “was” but “scheduled to be.” Like BL is scheduled to be updated….
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, brickerking writes:
Not “was” but “scheduled to be.” Like BL is scheduled to be updated….
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Exactly as it was before!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 11:45 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | I love how techbros flex their coding experience and how they make $100k/year,
but as soon as you ask them to do their job they make 100 excuses as to why it's
impossible; I guess that's why this site still runs on spaghetti code
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This isn't some startup that can't afford to pay people, this is a marketplace
owned by a billion-dollar company & can afford to pay the costs of revamping
a website
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+TLG did just do that price hike last year(I think) so they have got lots of
money laying around.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | I love how techbros flex their coding experience and how they make $100k/year,
but as soon as you ask them to do their job they make 100 excuses as to why it's
impossible; I guess that's why this site still runs on spaghetti code
This isn't some startup that can't afford to pay people, this is a marketplace
owned by a billion-dollar company & can afford to pay the costs of revamping
a website
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I have a feeling BL is run by corporate IT. In general, IT doesn’t make good
management (also management doesn’t make good IT). However, when corporate IT
runs the company they tend to make a small box within which to operate the company.
On the other hand, the right management will bring vision to a company and drive
the IT department out of their box. In my opinion, BL has been focused on small
boxes in which to operate for a long time, which leads to my suspicious feeling.
Where there is no vision, the people perish!
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | Where there is no vision, the people perish!
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I agree 100%, it doesn't seem like there's a true roadmap or "vision"
for Bricklink, which is terrible for everyone - not to mention that they could
literally sift through the "Suggestions" category & make a list of the
ones with the most votes, then see if they make sense to add to the site
The last time a suggestion was "implemented" was April 2022
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Talk about asking people to vote then burning the ballots and doing some other
thing.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:54 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 78 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | If they can't even deal with simple forum spam, how the hell are we to trust
them with our account security?
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They deal with simple forum spam.
A few still go through, and member and post are deleted.
No problem for me.
| | Yeah, rely on the volunteers instead of paying your security team to come up
with a premanent fix for it... makes total sense
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Permanent? Nothing can be permanent in Security.
It's just a perpetual race between hackers and sites.
Stop spreading FUD please.
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| In General, UTLF writes:
For me it may be 8 months!
I’d better be quiet now.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | DanialR | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 21:22 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 76 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
For me it may be 8 months!
I’d better be quiet now.
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The Bricklink team has to play a very difficult balancing act. Unless you've
walked in their shoes you can't understand the challenges they face.
I've supported some of the largest web sites on the internet, but I'd
be a fool to think I know the Bricklink teams' challenges or how to solve
them.
Sometimes it's best to practice "The Thumper Rule".
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 17:16 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, DanialR writes:
| | In General, Saitobricks.ca writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
For me it may be 8 months!
I’d better be quiet now.
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The Bricklink team has to play a very difficult balancing act. Unless you've
walked in their shoes you can't understand the challenges they face.
I've supported some of the largest web sites on the internet, but I'd
be a fool to think I know the Bricklink teams' challenges or how to solve
them.
Sometimes it's best to practice "The Thumper Rule".
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That is so untrue. Your profile says you're american, the land of the free,
right? Well here's a pep-talk. America didn't become free without people
who were willing to stand up and do something. Same goes for Bricklink, which
we all pay a fee to use, which gives us a say. If no one says anything, no one
is ever held accountable. If you want to see a community succeed, you have to
be part of it, not just sit on the sidelines and watch while it falls apart.
If you see something, say something, better yet, do something, or the freedoms
you take for granted will disappear. Bricklink's challenges are your challenges.
The thumper rule is for the uninvolved - get involved - care about the LEGO community
- be an american hero! (GI-JOE?)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 22:58 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| | That is so untrue. Your profile says you're american, the land of the free,
right? Well here's a pep-talk. America didn't become free without people
who were willing to stand up and do something. Same goes for Bricklink, which
we all pay a fee to use, which gives us a say. If no one says anything, no one
is ever held accountable. If you want to see a community succeed, you have to
be part of it, not just sit on the sidelines and watch while it falls apart.
If you see something, say something, better yet, do something, or the freedoms
you take for granted will disappear. Bricklink's challenges are your challenges.
The thumper rule is for the uninvolved - get involved - care about the LEGO community
- be an american hero! (GI-JOE?)
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What should we stand up and do? Create a better version of BrickLink?
When Benjamin Franklin was dismissed from his position as Postmaster General
of the Thirteen Colonies, he returned to America and used his experience working
in England to set up a rival system that eventually became the United States
Postal Service (USPS) we continue to rely on a quarter of a millennium later.
I've heard rumors that better things are on the horizon:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1332403
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1459043
I've been hearing these rumors for a while now, but I still have hope, for
these things take time.
Patience is a virtue, but Americans are not known for being very patient.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Bond | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 13:38 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! (but...calm...) | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Permanent? Nothing can be permanent in Security.
It's just a perpetual race between hackers and sites.
Stop spreading FUD please.
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Here I feel compelled to intervene. With all due respect, both to you and my
Forum associates, tacking the word "please" at the end of a condescending,
dismissive statement is the discourse equivalent of spreading chocolate frosting
on a pile of merde.
Speaking strictly for myself, I can't buy into the notion that UTLF was spreading
Fear, Uncertainty, or Doubt. BrickLink members should have the perfect right
to raise intelligent and legitimate questions regarding perceived BL staff actions
(or lack thereof) having to do with account security, personal information, and
equal policy enforcement, regardless of how loosely they may word their concerns.
It is not at all presumptuous to expect a community of grown, intelligent human
beings to express increasing frustration regarding the resolution of raised concerns,
particularly when said concerns are met with unhelpful, curt, and dismissive
replies replete with toxicity.
Look...I don't want any enmity between myself, you, or any other BrickLink
denizen. May I please make an attempt at restating what I believe are the issues
at stake in this thread?The collective goal of these people is not to stir up
a hornet's nest. All they're looking for is regular, honest, and open
communication from BrickLink staff regarding issues which, left unattended, could
potentially and negatively impact both users' BL experience as well as BrickLink's
reputation. To be sure, "reputation" is in no way used dramatically here.
If people feel they can't buy or sell LEGO products on BrickLink, they'll
be happy to find their way to BrickOwl, Amazon, eBay (shudder), etc.
The logic behind regular communication should speak for itself, provided that
it supplies useful information. Not all of us understand the finer details about
the labors and dedication it takes to run BrickLink (me included), particularly
under the shadow of TLG's rightful oversight. But most of us acknowledge
that it's no cakewalk, either. Almost all necessary tasks requiring arduous
effort can be termed as thankless. That being said, regular statements regarding
the status of current anomalies shouldn't be too much to ask. Let us suppose,
say, every fortnight? Once a month on the same day (e.g. the third Friday of
each month)? The statements could be as short or detailed as BrickLink staff
desired.
Ex: "Hello BL Community. As we are all aware, last Tuesday this site was
maliciously hacked by Darth Vader of the Planet Vulcan, who threatened to melt
our brains if we didn't pay him a monthly tithe of all collected BL fees.
In response, we have taken the following actions...(etc. etc.). At this time,
we cannot predict when this crisis will end, and we beg your continued patience.
If the issue isn't resolved by (date), we will post another update on (date).
Thank you."
One last thought. I submit, with an admitted degree of trepidation, that threads
like this one would be shortened and be less emotional in tone if we all made
an effort to be as understanding and civil as possible. I am guilty of having
given in to the temptation to "own" my detractors on the Forum in the
past. I was wrong, and I can only hope that my all-too-wordy reply will result
in something positive.
With all Respect,
- Bond
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 15, 2024 14:04 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! (but...calm...) | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Bond writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | Permanent? Nothing can be permanent in Security.
It's just a perpetual race between hackers and sites.
Stop spreading FUD please.
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Here I feel compelled to intervene. With all due respect, both to you and my
Forum associates, tacking the word "please" at the end of a condescending,
dismissive statement is the discourse equivalent of spreading chocolate frosting
on a pile of merde.
Speaking strictly for myself, I can't buy into the notion that UTLF was spreading
Fear, Uncertainty, or Doubt. BrickLink members should have the perfect right
to raise intelligent and legitimate questions regarding perceived BL staff actions
(or lack thereof) having to do with account security, personal information, and
equal policy enforcement, regardless of how loosely they may word their concerns.
It is not at all presumptuous to expect a community of grown, intelligent human
beings to express increasing frustration regarding the resolution of raised concerns,
particularly when said concerns are met with unhelpful, curt, and dismissive
replies replete with toxicity.
Look...I don't want any enmity between myself, you, or any other BrickLink
denizen. May I please make an attempt at restating what I believe are the issues
at stake in this thread?The collective goal of these people is not to stir up
a hornet's nest. All they're looking for is regular, honest, and open
communication from BrickLink staff regarding issues which, left unattended, could
potentially and negatively impact both users' BL experience as well as BrickLink's
reputation. To be sure, "reputation" is in no way used dramatically here.
If people feel they can't buy or sell LEGO products on BrickLink, they'll
be happy to find their way to BrickOwl, Amazon, eBay (shudder), etc.
The logic behind regular communication should speak for itself, provided that
it supplies useful information. Not all of us understand the finer details about
the labors and dedication it takes to run BrickLink (me included), particularly
under the shadow of TLG's rightful oversight. But most of us acknowledge
that it's no cakewalk, either. Almost all necessary tasks requiring arduous
effort can be termed as thankless. That being said, regular statements regarding
the status of current anomalies shouldn't be too much to ask. Let us suppose,
say, every fortnight? Once a month on the same day (e.g. the third Friday of
each month)? The statements could be as short or detailed as BrickLink staff
desired.
Ex: "Hello BL Community. As we are all aware, last Tuesday this site was
maliciously hacked by Darth Vader of the Planet Vulcan, who threatened to melt
our brains if we didn't pay him a monthly tithe of all collected BL fees.
In response, we have taken the following actions...(etc. etc.). At this time,
we cannot predict when this crisis will end, and we beg your continued patience.
If the issue isn't resolved by (date), we will post another update on (date).
Thank you."
One last thought. I submit, with an admitted degree of trepidation, that threads
like this one would be shortened and be less emotional in tone if we all made
an effort to be as understanding and civil as possible. I am guilty of having
given in to the temptation to "own" my detractors on the Forum in the
past. I was wrong, and I can only hope that my all-too-wordy reply will result
in something positive.
With all Respect,
- Bond
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Thanks for understanding the situation and contributing with a voice of reason.
I wish more would do this. It would make a difference.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | dcarmine | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 16:46 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 117 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | That's stupid to blame BrickLink.
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No it isn't
They've been letting spam accounts run rampant for the past year despite
announcing a "fix" coming "soon"
MrEvil from Ukraine was supposedly the culprit, he's been banned since August
2023, and the spam continues... somehow we're supposed to think they care
about keeping the site safe?
If they can't even deal with simple forum spam, how the hell are we to trust
them with our account security?
"Oh just report it so the forum mods can deal with it"
Yeah, rely on the volunteers instead of paying your security team to come up
with a premanent fix for it... makes total sense
What a goddamn joke
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First, the site is built on technology from 2000. Until they upgrade the platform
completely, they do as much as possible to lock it down. Hence the Nov 3rd incident.
Two-factor authentication has been available for opt-in if you think you will
benefit from it:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2615
I'm sure they are handling this as best they can, a rewrite is in progress.
We were told about 6 months ago that it will be a two year job. So hang in and
look for bigger things in the future.
HTH
Donna
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 22:38 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | No it isn't
They've been letting spam accounts run rampant for the past year despite
announcing a "fix" coming "soon"
MrEvil from Ukraine was supposedly the culprit, he's been banned since August
2023, and the spam continues... somehow we're supposed to think they care
about keeping the site safe?
If they can't even deal with simple forum spam, how the hell are we to trust
them with our account security?
"Oh just report it so the forum mods can deal with it"
Yeah, rely on the volunteers instead of paying your security team to come up
with a premanent fix for it... makes total sense
What a goddamn joke
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How do you propose we solve the forum spam problem?
A "member" registers in India or the USA, starts a single thread in the
discussion forum advertising gummies or escorts, the thread is cancelled by the
moderators within minutes or hours, and the account is deactivated and anonymized
the same day that it was created. Rinse and repeat.
It happens a few times every night, and it seems that, with the help of the community,
a few human moderators can keep on top of the spammers without too much difficulty.
Yes, BrickLink could implement more advanced technical solutions to prevent spam
accounts from being created in the first place, but it's not necessarily
worth the investment just to prevent a few relatively harmless spam posts every
night. I'm sure the BrickLink developers are busy dealing with more important
bugs and vulnerabilities.
The only time is was a real problem was on December 12th, 2022:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?msgDate=12/12/2022
I'm not sure what happened there and whether all those posts were cancelled
by mods or by admins, but I sense that BrickLink's primary weakness is
not its leadership but its age. A switch to a newer, more modern platform might
help tighten security, but that's not a simple fix and will probably face
a lot of resistance from longtime members like XP did.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 22:56 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | Yes, BrickLink could implement more advanced technical solutions to prevent spam
accounts from being created in the first place, but it's not necessarily
worth the investment just to prevent a few relatively harmless spam posts every
night. I'm sure the BrickLink developers are busy dealing with more important
bugs and vulnerabilities.
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This is apologizing for BL. Why not hold their feet to the fire, when it's
our community they are responsible for.
| | Yes, BrickLink could implement more advanced technical solutions to prevent spam
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Then why aren't they doing it?
| | I'm sure the BrickLink developers are busy dealing with more important
bugs and vulnerabilities.
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Are they? How sure are you? Is it on their roadmap? https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2547&q=roadmap
Oh, wait, there is nothing on their roadmap???
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:08 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| | This is apologizing for BL. Why not hold their feet to the fire, when it's
our community they are responsible for.
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How do I hold BrickLink's feet to the fire? I am just a chicken, thousands
of miles away.
| | Then why aren't they doing it?
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As I said, it's not necessarily worth it to prevent a relatively small amount
of relatively harmless spam, especially when the developers have other priorities.
That being said, if the spam does get out of control, then it might justify some
sort of technical solution, but everyone's tolerance for spam is different.
I don't mind a bit of salt.
How am I to know? I'm not a programmer and I don't work for BrickLink.
I don't know what happens in Irvine. All I can do is guess.
Communication is nice, but I'd rather the developers focus on getting stuff
done than on sharing their work with a public that doesn't really understand
software development. At least they bother to update it with past updates.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:17 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In General, brickerking writes:
| | This is apologizing for BL. Why not hold their feet to the fire, when it's
our community they are responsible for.
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How do I hold BrickLink's feet to the fire? I am just a chicken, thousands
of miles away.
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As I said, it's not necessarily worth it to prevent a relatively small amount
of relatively harmless spam, especially when the developers have other priorities.
That being said, if the spam does get out of control, then it might justify some
sort of technical solution, but everyone's tolerance for spam is different.
I don't mind a bit of salt.
How am I to know? I'm not a programmer and I don't work for BrickLink.
I don't know what happens in Irvine. All I can do is guess.
Communication is nice, but I'd rather the developers focus on getting stuff
done than on sharing their work with a public that doesn't really understand
software development. At least they bother to update it with past updates.
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We should in fact demand more accountability and communication from BL and we
shouldn't stop until they do. That's how things start to get better.
If we just pretend everything will work out in the end, it never will, and we'll
just have to put up with more and more problems. This forum is the best public
way to hold BL's feet to the fire. So instead of going "chicken",
demand better from the company that runs the community we are all responsible
for.
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| In General, brickerking writes:
| | We should in fact demand more accountability and communication from BL and we
shouldn't stop until they do. That's how things start to get better.
If we just pretend everything will work out in the end, it never will, and we'll
just have to put up with more and more problems. This forum is the best public
way to hold BL's feet to the fire. So instead of going "chicken",
demand better from the company that runs the community we are all responsible
for.
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Ever since Dan passed away, we've been demanding more accountability, transparency,
and communication from BrickLink.
It's not working.
Besides Russell, I'm not sure how much management is even aware of what goes
on in the forum. We've not heard much from our Community Engagement Directors:
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?uName=CE_Eric
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?uName=CE_Tanja
https://www.bricklink.com/messageList.asp?uName=CE_Uday
But, for all I know, they may very well be lurking the forums, reading without
posting, as I am often inclined to. I've no evidence, though.
But, even if they're not very active, at least "Community Engagement
Director" is a position that exists, and there are roundtable meetings and
focus groups with select members of the community. Perhaps someday,
something will materialize out of these meetings. Count your blessings.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:21 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Yes, BrickLink could implement more advanced technical solutions to prevent spam
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Then why aren't they doing it?
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Why would the spend potentially thousands of dollars (or more) so that the 20-50
of us who use the forums don’t see a couple spam posts a day? The real question
is why would they. If you hide canceled posts or just ignore them it in no way
affects the usage
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | brickerking | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:29 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | | | Yes, BrickLink could implement more advanced technical solutions to prevent spam
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Then why aren't they doing it?
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Why would the spend potentially thousands of dollars (or more) so that the 20-50
of us who use the forums don’t see a couple spam posts a day? The real question
is why would they. If you hide canceled posts or just ignore them it in no way
affects the usage
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I really don't care about forum spam. But I do care that the OP is concerned
about security and the reply to that was making the point that if BL can't
keep out spam from the form, how can they keep our accounts secure? These are
valid concerns, and shouldn't just be dismissed by BL apologists who assume
the cost is too high for security. It's a really simple point that should
be supported by everyone, not belittled.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:46 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:55 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | Why would the spend potentially thousands of dollars (or more) so that the 20-50 of us who use the forums don’t see a couple spam posts a day?
The real question is why would they. If you hide canceled posts or just ignore them it in no way affects the usage
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The issue is that they continue to allow it in the first place and have yet to
do anything to permanently resolve it
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There ARE solutions - basic ones like Captcha, delays (like 24 hrs before posting),
plus many FAR more effective.
Problem is, many newbies find BrickLink's a great community because they
create an account and post a question like "What's this piece?" or
"How do I build this?", or...
So the more you'll make it difficult, the more newbies won't access BrickLink
Forum.
Voltaire said something like this: "It's better to have a hundred guilty
people free than one innocent person in prison."
Frankly I prefer 3 gummies posts than 1 newbie who can't join the community.
And seeing the recent posts, I tend to prefer gummies posts to the complainers
ones
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 00:10 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 00:33 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | There ARE solutions - basic ones like Captcha, delays (like 24 hrs before posting), plus many FAR more effective.
Problem is, many newbies find BrickLink's a great community because they create an account and post a question like "What's this piece?" or "How do I build this?", or...
So the more you'll make it difficult, the more newbies won't access BrickLink Forum.
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It's a Captcha, not the Da Vinci code; it's not like it's new technology,
people solve Captchas all the time (and bots still can't, even with current
AI for the most part)
Solve 1 captcha per 24 hours until you get 1 positive feedback, problem solved
- the captcha verifies you as human, you can post all you want for the next 24
hours without needing to solve another one (unless you switch IPs)
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Majority don't have a fixed IP.
Any hacker can register on a site API (I won't cite) where humans are paid
(LOL) $1 for 1000 captchas to solve them, 24/365
And still the same complexity you can't solve on your chair: weight of the
problem vs cost of a solution + what other problems it'll create.
I give up, and wait for the next Gummy post.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Macaronis | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 00:58 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | | | There ARE solutions - basic ones like Captcha, delays (like 24 hrs before posting), plus many FAR more effective.
Problem is, many newbies find BrickLink's a great community because they create an account and post a question like "What's this piece?" or "How do I build this?", or...
So the more you'll make it difficult, the more newbies won't access BrickLink Forum.
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It's a Captcha, not the Da Vinci code; it's not like it's new technology,
people solve Captchas all the time (and bots still can't, even with current
AI for the most part)
Solve 1 captcha per 24 hours until you get 1 positive feedback, problem solved
- the captcha verifies you as human, you can post all you want for the next 24
hours without needing to solve another one (unless you switch IPs)
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Majority don't have a fixed IP.
Any hacker can register on a site API (I won't cite) where humans are paid
(LOL) $1 for 1000 captchas to solve them, 24/365
And still the same complexity you can't solve on your chair: weight of the
problem vs cost of a solution + what other problems it'll create.
I give up, and wait for the next Gummy post.
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The easy answer is just remove the Forum like we did the chat. While some might
think the forum is important. Considering the direction of flow seems to go only
one way it would be easier just to have administration Level Posting only and
just get rid of the rest. We don't need to hear about Sales that are NOT
sales. We do not need the same questioned asked once a month for the last 10
years. We don't need any help Iding Parts... Just take the time to look.
PROBLEM and Security Solved.
Move along there is nothing to see here.
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 20:18 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 84 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nicolasamico37 | | Posted: | Mar 11, 2024 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 95 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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I had no email about that. But I saw the post on this forum.
Nicolas
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Stellar | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 05:47 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 73 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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I had no email about that. But I saw the post on this forum.
Nicolas
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You might need to have Newsletter enabled here:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 05:51 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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I had no email about that. But I saw the post on this forum.
Nicolas
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You might need to have Newsletter enabled here:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
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I haven't received the email either, and I am also subscribed to the newsletter.
So the message has not gone to all users, or all newsletter subscribers.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rtzx9r | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 22:01 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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I had no email about that. But I saw the post on this forum.
Nicolas
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You might need to have Newsletter enabled here:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
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I haven't received the email either, and I am also subscribed to the newsletter.
So the message has not gone to all users, or all newsletter subscribers.
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I get tons of spam emails daily from all sorts of “businesses”… Netflix, PayPal,
banks, etc all doing the same thing. They have much larger IT teams as well.
You simply can’t beat them.
What everyone needs to do it learn how to identify fake emails. Check the emails,
hover over links, etc and it’s typically very easy to catch things.
If we can learn how to check spam, we can direct our frustration back to merges
and gummies.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Mar 13, 2024 06:40 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, rtzx9r writes:
| | In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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I had no email about that. But I saw the post on this forum.
Nicolas
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You might need to have Newsletter enabled here:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
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I haven't received the email either, and I am also subscribed to the newsletter.
So the message has not gone to all users, or all newsletter subscribers.
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I get tons of spam emails daily from all sorts of “businesses”… Netflix, PayPal,
banks, etc all doing the same thing. They have much larger IT teams as well.
You simply can’t beat them.
What everyone needs to do it learn how to identify fake emails. Check the emails,
hover over links, etc and it’s typically very easy to catch things.
If we can learn how to check spam, we can direct our frustration back to merges
and gummies.
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I find there are ways to beat or at least minimise them. If it is a company
I have no intention of using, I don't unsubscribe. Instead I just set a filter
to delete their email. If it is a company I use (like PayPal or Netflix) then
I update my account options so that I do not receive advertising and only receive
important account updates or billing. I must have doe that years ago, as I cannot
remember ever getting spam from PayPal. Google's gmail spam filters also
appear to be really quite good, as my bin frequently has emails supposedly from
big companies that have been identified as spam/scam as it does not come from
the company.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nicolasamico37 | | Posted: | Mar 12, 2024 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: BEWARE! HACK TRIALS!! | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Stellar writes:
| | In General, Nicolasamico37 writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Erikmax writes:
| | So is this the way accounts are hacked? If so, Bricklink should place a warning
to prevent this!
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They did, forum and e-mail, mine received on 06/03/2024, 00:43
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I had no email about that. But I saw the post on this forum.
Nicolas
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You might need to have Newsletter enabled here:
https://www.bricklink.com/pref_contact.asp
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It was already enabled. Thank you
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