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| | | Author: | EDOM  | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 04:15 | | Subject: | Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 118 times | | Topic: | Inventories | | Status: | Open | |
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Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 04:29 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
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Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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| | | | | | | Author: | EDOM | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 05:23 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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How would a buyer know that these parts do not belong to a complete used
set?
If I was a buyer, I would check the received parts of a used set that I bought
on BrickLink against the Regular Items list of that set at BrickLink. And then
the trouble begins...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 05:43 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
| | | | It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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How would a buyer know that these parts do not belong to a complete used
set?
If I was a buyer, I would check the received parts of a used set that I bought
on BrickLink against the Regular Items list of that set at BrickLink. And then
the trouble begins...
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | EDOM | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 06:28 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
| | In Inventories, EDOM writes:
| | | | It was changed some years ago now, as they came with new sets and these are not
strictly extras, they are unused. When you sell a used set you do not need to
include them (only the parts necessary to build the set). But it is a good idea
to indicate that they are not included if you sell a used set.
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How would a buyer know that these parts do not belong to a complete used
set?
If I was a buyer, I would check the received parts of a used set that I bought
on BrickLink against the Regular Items list of that set at BrickLink. And then
the trouble begins...
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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I see your point. Though this is exactly what made me post about it in the first
place:
Why list them as Regular Items if they are not necesary for the build? Why not
listing them as Extra Items. Me as a seller should not "invent" a new
category "Parts Not Needed".
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | zorbanj | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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This is exactly what I note for any used set. Most sets have extra items listed
in the inventory.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 09:53 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, zorbanj writes:
| | In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
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That is why I said it is good for sellers of used sets to make it clear they
have only included parts necessary for the build, just like they can say no extra
parts.
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This is exactly what I note for any used set. Most sets have extra items listed
in the inventory.
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Yes, this problem happens anywhere that multiple parts come in a pack or sprue
and that item needs to be damaged to remove a part for a minifigure. It happens
with the vintage plumes on sprues and also modern bags that contain Mandalorian
rangefinders and similar items.
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 10:39 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
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I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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BrickLink inventories are currently intended to show the contents of a New set.
Used sets are at the mercy of both the buyer and seller understanding the terms
outlined here:
https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102
Obviously, a New and Used set can have distinct differences in the inventory.
Unfortunately, BL doesn't have the infrastructure to show inventories for
each set condition.
~Jen
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| | | | | Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 28, 2024 15:19 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| In Inventories, EDOM writes:
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Certain sets only use one or two of the plume feathers from that wheel. But even
if only one is used, the other two are also listed on the regular items.
On this page https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=1562#regularItems in the
section "Additional Information About Regular Items" it says:
Parts on Sprues - Complete sprues are included in this section unless some
parts from the sprues are used in minifigures. In that case, the parts from the
sprues that are not used in minifigures are included in this section.
Now my question is: Why?
Example given: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemInv.asp?S=6274-1
and are not used anywhere on the Caribbean Clipper. There
is no official parts list of this set. But still both pieces are listed as Regular
Items on BrickLink. In this particular case the price for the complete set is
increased by approximately $10 just because these two unused parts are listed
as regular parts.
I suggest to change the Brickink definition of regular items and move those parts
from Regular Items to Extra Items.
Who is with me?
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This treatment is consistent with any modern such items where set inventories
from LEGO do exist, and those parts are included (typically, all as one "single"
piece) regardless of if they are used or not. Personally, I would consider
a set incomplete without those pieces, much like I would consider a set incomplete
without spare ammo; it's not a matter of what is used in the builds, it's
a matter of what is part of the set.
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 29, 2024 08:56 | | Subject: | Re: Unused parts from part 4502 - Who is with me? | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Inventories | |
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| | | This treatment is consistent with any modern such items where set inventories
from LEGO do exist, and those parts are included (typically, all as one "single"
piece) regardless of if they are used or not. Personally, I would consider
a set incomplete without those pieces, much like I would consider a set incomplete
without spare ammo; it's not a matter of what is used in the builds, it's
a matter of what is part of the set.
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Tat is fine for a new set. But for a used set, you only need the parts necessary
to build the set. No extras or even regular parts not used in the build(s) have
to be present to be used,complete.
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