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| | | Author: | NoGravitasHere  | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 10:38 | | Subject: | 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 115 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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| | | | | Author: | NoGravitasHere | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 10:47 | | Subject: | Re: 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
| | This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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Oh, worth noting is that it doesn't perfectly match Tan, as demonstrated
in the comparison pics. It's a little lighter. Still quite close though.
Also, there is a Tan Hau on the big list of mystery masks that pop up now and
then, but I don't think it's ever been seen?
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| | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 12:38 | | Subject: | Re: 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
| | This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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What is often called 'sun damage' is not actually caused by the UV light
in sun beams, although might help to speed up the process. It is a chemical change
of the plastic or additives inside the plastic itself and may show throughout
the part. So theory 2 sounds about right.
I see this every day in my kitchen: only a year after buying, my white microwave
started showing a tan front and a white button whilst before they were the same.
Both plastics must have different composition and age differently.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Adjour | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 19:20 | | Subject: | Re: 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
| | This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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What is often called 'sun damage' is not actually caused by the UV light
in sun beams, although might help to speed up the process. It is a chemical change
of the plastic or additives inside the plastic itself and may show throughout
the part. So theory 2 sounds about right.
I see this every day in my kitchen: only a year after buying, my white microwave
started showing a tan front and a white button whilst before they were the same.
Both plastics must have different composition and age differently.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that cold temps and/or humidity play a role. I spent
35 years in a hot desert climate, never had a brick change, literally never,
even my childhood bricks from the 70's, never changed,
I moved climates to a cold, wetter place 3 years ago, bricks have been changing
on me left and right, even newly listed ones I remember being white.
Crystal
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | NoGravitasHere | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 20:27 | | Subject: | Re: 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Adjour writes:
| | In Catalog, hpoort writes:
| | In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
| | This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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What is often called 'sun damage' is not actually caused by the UV light
in sun beams, although might help to speed up the process. It is a chemical change
of the plastic or additives inside the plastic itself and may show throughout
the part. So theory 2 sounds about right.
I see this every day in my kitchen: only a year after buying, my white microwave
started showing a tan front and a white button whilst before they were the same.
Both plastics must have different composition and age differently.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that cold temps and/or humidity play a role. I spent
35 years in a hot desert climate, never had a brick change, literally never,
even my childhood bricks from the 70's, never changed,
I moved climates to a cold, wetter place 3 years ago, bricks have been changing
on me left and right, even newly listed ones I remember being white.
Crystal
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I did consider aging, but I thought that change would affect the whole part,
not just a surface layer. If this process only discolours the top layer, I'm
very happy to write this one off as solved!
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
| | This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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Although there is an element number for a tan Hau (4144201)  , I believe what
you are seeing is a chemical change in the plastic where certain additives migrate
their way to the surface over time. This leads to a yellowing or browning of
the surface of a part and can often make a white part look tan over time. This
is why it is completely uniform and only occurs at the surface. It has nothing
to do with a part being in the sun, because brand new sets from decades ago have
been opened that show the same change.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | WOLKsite | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 14:26 | | Subject: | Re: 'Tan' Hau - any ideas? | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | In Catalog, NoGravitasHere writes:
| | This mask genuinely keeps me up at night. It shouldn't exist, and yet...
This mask came to me from a guy here in NZ, who owned it since he was a kid.
His parents owned a toy shop in the 2000s, which might be relevant. He claims
he never painted, dyed, or otherwise modified this piece, and sold it to me as
a sundamaged white Hau. I have no clue what it is.
Theory 1: Prototype/Test Tan Hau
Counterpoint: the mask is white underneath, note the small scratches around the
mouth stud showing white plastic.
Theory 2: Sun Damage
Counterpoint: the colouration is perfect. No inconsistency whatsoever, all facets
are equally tan. Coverage is also perfect, even inside the mouth stud, all facets
of the grills, the inside of the mouth hole etc.
Theory 3: Modified white Hau
Counterpoint: sole previous owner is just as confused as I am, and genuinely
believed it was just sun damaged. He had no idea how said damage would have occurred,
he just assumed it was once white and copped some sun.
Help?
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Although there is an element number for a tan Hau (4144201) , I believe what
you are seeing is a chemical change in the plastic where certain additives migrate
their way to the surface over time. This leads to a yellowing or browning of
the surface of a part and can often make a white part look tan over time. This
is why it is completely uniform and only occurs at the surface. It has nothing
to do with a part being in the sun, because brand new sets from decades ago have
been opened that show the same change.
Cheers,
Randy
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Yeah I agree, it's just yellowed white.
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