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| | | Author: | Kenopolis  | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 18:37 | | Subject: | Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I was looking at the advent calendars for Harry Potter, and I noticed a discrepancy.
the 2019 advent calendar lists the snowman as a minifig, whereas the 2023 one
does not.
I know that statues are listed as minifigs, so it stands to reason that snowmen
would be too.
Is there a reason the 2023 snowman is not a minifig? Or is it simply because
no one has entered it as such? Even the snowman from the Christmas Accessories
polybag is listed as a minifig. Hol170
It seems to me, that these Advent Calendar days should have a listing for the
snowman as a minifig.
76418-25 Harry Potter
76267-6 Avengers
76231-18 Guardians of the Galaxy
Also, ID conventions...
The Harry Potter "Snow Wizard" is cataloged as generic hol161.
But other licensed themes are listed as follows.
sh759 "Snowman Iron Man"
sw1134 "Snowman - Rebel Pilot Helmet"
sw0424 "Astromech Droid, R2-D2, Snowman"
sw1133 "Snowman - Imperial Pilot Helmet"
sw1120 "Snowman Gonk Droid (GNK Power Droid)"
The Harry Potter snowman should be renamed to match this ID convention.
If this is something that I can do, I will start working on it.
Thanks.
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 19:53 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Kenopolis writes:
| | I was looking at the advent calendars for Harry Potter, and I noticed a discrepancy.
the 2019 advent calendar lists the snowman as a minifig, whereas the 2023 one
does not.
I know that statues are listed as minifigs, so it stands to reason that snowmen
would be too.
Is there a reason the 2023 snowman is not a minifig?
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Unfortunately, most of the snowman builds should have never been entered into
the catalog as minifigures, and the ones that are already in the catalog will
most likely be removed at some point in the future.
As a general rule, we are no longer accepting it if it is just a generic snowman
and not meant to represent a specific festive version of another minifigure (such
as the snowman R2-D2).
| | Or is it simply because
no one has entered it as such? Even the snowman from the Christmas Accessories
polybag is listed as a minifig. Hol170
It seems to me, that these Advent Calendar days should have a listing for the
snowman as a minifig.
76418-25 Harry Potter
76267-6 Avengers
76231-18 Guardians of the Galaxy
Also, ID conventions...
The Harry Potter "Snow Wizard" is cataloged as generic hol161.
But other licensed themes are listed as follows.
sh759 "Snowman Iron Man"
sw1134 "Snowman - Rebel Pilot Helmet"
sw0424 "Astromech Droid, R2-D2, Snowman"
sw1133 "Snowman - Imperial Pilot Helmet"
sw1120 "Snowman Gonk Droid (GNK Power Droid)"
The Harry Potter snowman should be renamed to match this ID convention.
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The numbers are unimportant due to the fact that many of them will most likely
be removed at some point (for example, hol161).
| | If this is something that I can do, I will start working on it.
Thanks.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Kenopolis | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 20:17 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Unfortunately, most of the snowman builds should have never been entered into
the catalog as minifigures, and the ones that are already in the catalog will
most likely be removed at some point in the future.
As a general rule, we are no longer accepting it if it is just a generic snowman
and not meant to represent a specific festive version of another minifigure (such
as the snowman R2-D2).
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Okay, this makes sense to me.
So the Iron Man Snowman would stay,
Rebel Pilot Snowman,
R2-D2 Snowman,
Imperial Pilot Snowman,
Gonk Droid Snowman?
These would all stay, as they represent a festive version of another minifig.
Wouldn't that mean that
76267-6 should have a minifig entry (Iron Man Snowman with top hat)
76231-18 (Snowman in Thanos Armor)
I would create an entry, but I don't own either of those, so...
| | The numbers are unimportant due to the fact that many of them will most likely
be removed at some point (for example, hol161).
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Since none of the um... (for lack of a better word) effigies will be affected,
okay, that makes sense to me as well.
Perhaps someone who owns those sets will create an entry for those, and someone
can finally complete their Snowman effigy collection.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 8, 2024 20:34 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Kenopolis writes:
| | In Catalog, randyf writes:
| | Unfortunately, most of the snowman builds should have never been entered into
the catalog as minifigures, and the ones that are already in the catalog will
most likely be removed at some point in the future.
As a general rule, we are no longer accepting it if it is just a generic snowman
and not meant to represent a specific festive version of another minifigure (such
as the snowman R2-D2).
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Okay, this makes sense to me.
So the Iron Man Snowman would stay,
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^ This one would most likely be removed.
^ This one would have to be discussed.
^ Definitely would stay.
^ This one would most likely be removed.
^ Definitely would stay.
| | These would all stay, as they represent a festive version of another minifig.
Wouldn't that mean that
76267-6 should have a minifig entry (Iron Man Snowman with top hat)
76231-18 (Snowman in Thanos Armor)
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Nope. These do not meet the newest guidelines.
| | I would create an entry, but I don't own either of those, so...
| | The numbers are unimportant due to the fact that many of them will most likely
be removed at some point (for example, hol161).
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Since none of the um... (for lack of a better word) effigies will be affected,
okay, that makes sense to me as well.
Perhaps someone who owns those sets will create an entry for those, and someone
can finally complete their Snowman effigy collection.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Kenopolis | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 01:02 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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^ This one would have to be discussed.
^ Definitely would stay.
^ This one would most likely be removed.
^ Definitely would stay.
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I am not completely sure I understand your reasoning.
Is is because they have printed parts?
The Gonk droid doesn't even have printed or unique parts that identify it
as a gonk droid. It's just kinda... Well... Cute.
I'm really trying to understand here. It seems very arbitrary.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 04:27 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Kenopolis writes:
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^ This one would have to be discussed.
^ Definitely would stay.
^ This one would most likely be removed.
^ Definitely would stay.
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I am not completely sure I understand your reasoning.
Is is because they have printed parts?
The Gonk droid doesn't even have printed or unique parts that identify it
as a gonk droid. It's just kinda... Well... Cute.
I'm really trying to understand here. It seems very arbitrary.
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Since we would be deciding whether to remove something from the catalog or not
(a difficult task), we would have to discuss all sides of the issue.
The most conservative approach is to just grandfather in all of the snowman figures
that are already in the catalog. However, some of the figures are extremely generic
with no unique parts and little trade value or collectability. Those would be
rather easy to add to the chopping block, so the most conservative approach quickly
falls apart.
On the other hand, the most liberal approach is to remove all of the snowman
figures that are already in the catalog. However, some of the figures are in
an extremely popular theme and have unique printed parts. This leads to them
having high trade value and collectability, so trying to remove them from the
catalog is not likely.
The simple answers I gave above are in my opinion what the team would most likely
settle on in the long term.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 05:52 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| | | On the other hand, the most liberal approach is to remove all of the snowman
figures that are already in the catalog. However, some of the figures are in
an extremely popular theme and have unique printed parts. This leads to them
having high trade value and collectability, so trying to remove them from the
catalog is not likely.
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I really wonder if they sell or are popular because of being the figure or because
of the unique parts they contain. Often if an otherwise crappy figure contains
a unique sought after part, it is just as expensive (or sometimes more) to buy
the part than the whole figure.
Plus in some themes, if bricklink makes it a figure then completionist collectors
have to have the figure. Demand can be there because it exists rather than because
it is necessarily wanted. Yet if it didn't exist as a minifigure in the catalogue,
the demand would not be there for it to exist.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Kenopolis | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 01:08 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| By the way, I submitted my change request, before I saw your response.
Just for the record. I wouldn't have submitted it had I seen your response
first.
Sorry.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Feb 9, 2024 04:28 | | Subject: | Re: Advent Calendar discrepancies. | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, Kenopolis writes:
| | By the way, I submitted my change request, before I saw your response.
Just for the record. I wouldn't have submitted it had I seen your response
first.
Sorry.
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No problem! 
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