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 Author: oukexergon View Messages Posted By oukexergon
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 11:46
 Subject: Merging Part 46212 functional difference
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oukexergon (318)

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Part 46212, besides being designed for transparency and so cosmetically very
different on any build, has a functional advantage over its side support counterpart
shown here in the Ninjago City instructions. Sure, placed elements are only visible
with transparent colors, but it can be used to conceal elements in solid colors
as well, or attach to tile parts as a loose connection, something the side support
version cannot do.

Please do not merge this part to 2454.
 
 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 12:29
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In Catalog, oukexergon writes:
  Part 46212, besides being designed for transparency and so cosmetically very
different on any build, has a functional advantage over its side support counterpart
shown here in the Ninjago City instructions. Sure, placed elements are only visible
with transparent colors, but it can be used to conceal elements in solid colors
as well, or attach to tile parts as a loose connection, something the side support
version cannot do.

Please do not merge this part to 2454.

Point taken. But there is no risk anyone getting a Transparent 2454.
 Author: oukexergon View Messages Posted By oukexergon
 Posted: Jan 31, 2024 12:50
 Subject: Re: Merging Part 46212 functional difference
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In Catalog, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  Point taken. But there is no risk anyone getting a Transparent 2454.

Well, at least as of now (highly doubtful since both are in production, but for
all we know the very next announced set could include one).
 Author: wahiggin View Messages Posted By wahiggin
 Posted: Feb 1, 2024 16:41
 Subject: Re: Merging Part 46212 functional difference
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In Catalog, oukexergon writes:
  Part 46212, besides being designed for transparency and so cosmetically very
different on any build, has a functional advantage over its side support counterpart
shown here in the Ninjago City instructions. Sure, placed elements are only visible
with transparent colors, but it can be used to conceal elements in solid colors
as well, or attach to tile parts as a loose connection, something the side support
version cannot do.

Please do not merge this part to 2454.

Great example.
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Feb 2, 2024 11:17
 Subject: Re: Merging Part 46212 functional difference
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In Catalog, oukexergon writes:
  Part 46212, besides being designed for transparency and so cosmetically very
different on any build, has a functional advantage over its side support counterpart
shown here in the Ninjago City instructions. Sure, placed elements are only visible
with transparent colors, but it can be used to conceal elements in solid colors
as well, or attach to tile parts as a loose connection, something the side support
version cannot do.

Please do not merge this part to 2454.

Nowadays we know TLG locks some colors to certain parts/molds so this might be
the case with these pieces as they have been coexisting for a long time now.

 
Part No: 2454  Name: Brick 1 x 2 x 5
* 
2454 Brick 1 x 2 x 5
Parts: Brick
[p=46212]
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Feb 2, 2024 11:34
 Subject: Re: Merging Part 46212 functional difference
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In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  […]
Nowadays we know TLG locks some colors to certain parts/molds so this might be
the case with these pieces as they have been coexisting for a long time now.

 
Part No: 2454  Name: Brick 1 x 2 x 5
* 
2454 Brick 1 x 2 x 5
Parts: Brick
[p=46212]

Yes, it’s the same as LEGO using 3001/2/3old moulds for (modern) 3001/2/3 trans-colours. 
The catalogue says they are modern 3001/2/3 bricks and no one complains.
 Author: oukexergon View Messages Posted By oukexergon
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In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  […]
Nowadays we know TLG locks some colors to certain parts/molds so this might be
the case with these pieces as they have been coexisting for a long time now.

 
Part No: 2454  Name: Brick 1 x 2 x 5
* 
2454 Brick 1 x 2 x 5
Parts: Brick
[p=46212]

Yes, it’s the same as LEGO using 3001/2/3old moulds for (modern) 3001/2/3 trans-colours. 
The catalogue says they are modern 3001/2/3 bricks and no one complains.

My comparison would be 3004 and 3065, both in production, but with specific connectivity
and usages. 3065 has had some solid versions in the past (and could in the future),
just as 46212 has. These are distinct parts in multiple ways and should not be
combined.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Feb 2, 2024 13:15
 Subject: Re: Merging Part 46212 functional difference
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In Catalog, oukexergon writes:
  In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
  In Catalog, Stellar writes:
  […]
Nowadays we know TLG locks some colors to certain parts/molds so this might be
the case with these pieces as they have been coexisting for a long time now.

 
Part No: 2454  Name: Brick 1 x 2 x 5
* 
2454 Brick 1 x 2 x 5
Parts: Brick
[p=46212]

Yes, it’s the same as LEGO using 3001/2/3old moulds for (modern) 3001/2/3 trans-colours. 
The catalogue says they are modern 3001/2/3 bricks and no one complains.

My comparison would be 3004 and 3065, both in production, but with specific connectivity
and usages. 3065 has had some solid versions in the past (and could in the future),
just as 46212 has. These are distinct parts in multiple ways and should not be
combined.

Thank you for your opinion.