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 Author: StormChaser View Messages Posted By StormChaser
 Posted: Jan 19, 2024 09:58
 Subject: Anonymizing Members
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StormChaser (569)

Location:  USA, Oklahoma
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As many of you know, I strongly disagreed with the significant disservice done
to the people who built this website's catalog with the haphazard and poorly-handled
anonymizing of catalog contributors around the time of the sale to the LEGO Group.

Yes, this is the Bluser issue. Yep, I'm speaking about it again . . . probably
because the site has repeatedly shown its contempt and disregard for the catalog
and its contributors (most recently with its poor handling of the variant issue).

So anyway, the anonymizing was so poorly handled that by performing a couple
of basic and simple Google searches I can tell you the full name of this member
and his home address:

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bb257520

There are numerous other "anonymized" members on BrickLink for whom information
can be quite easily discovered, including full name, age, home address, telephone
number, relatives, etc., etc.

Screenshot this post if you want to keep it, because the site will probably delete
the post and ban me from the forum again for expressing myself.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jan 19, 2024 10:19
 Subject: Re: Anonymizing Members
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1001bricks (52411)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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  So anyway, the anonymizing was so poorly handled that by performing a couple
of basic and simple Google searches I can tell you the full name of this member
and his home address:

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bb257520

Who cares about Salem, OR anyway?


Shop name is a problem.

But Shop names should be kept in database - or at least one shouldn't be
able to create a shop with the same name of a recently but closed shop (1 yr
?)
I'm not sure if BrickLink checks this.

Anyway, even Feedbacks texts for those users could be anonymized.
Probably other things...

But then it's a whole task to think at and to develop, not an easy and quick
one.

And this isn't a so important priority, IMHO - compared to so many things
that could be done and would help a lot of people currently using BrickLink.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Jan 19, 2024 10:25
 Subject: Re: Anonymizing Members
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1001bricks (52411)

Location:  France, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
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In General, 1001bricks writes:
  
  So anyway, the anonymizing was so poorly handled that by performing a couple
of basic and simple Google searches I can tell you the full name of this member
and his home address:

https://www.bricklink.com/feedback.asp?u=bb257520

Who cares about Salem, OR anyway?


Also, the other thing is shop names which correspond to or could conduct to
an officially created company (like a trademark).

Then it's a question of professional, public activity, and this can't
be "erased" easily.

It doesn't correspond to private privacy.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jan 19, 2024 11:43
 Subject: Re: Anonymizing Members
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SylvainLS (46)

Location:  France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
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What I understand StormChaser to be actually arguing about is that BL shouldn’t
obey the laws¹ at all because there’s enough (legal) bread crumbs left to home
on the users.

Well, laws and solutions aren’t perfect and you often leave enough traces to
be identified, news at 11.

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¹ EU’s GDPR and the Californian one whose name I always forget.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 19, 2024 12:50
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yorbrick (1185)

Location:  United Kingdom, England
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  What I understand StormChaser to be actually arguing about is that BL shouldn’t
obey the laws¹ at all because there’s enough (legal) bread crumbs left to home
on the users.

Well, laws and solutions aren’t perfect and you often leave enough traces to
be identified, news at 11.

I guess the point is not that they shouldn't obey the laws but if they do
there are still breadcrumbs in some cases. Even if they do follow the individual
anonymization laws but still leave a store name, it doesn't necessarily anonymize
all the personal data because the user might have left those breadcrumbs elsewhere
(not on bricklink) that can be linked to the BL store name, and that BL store
name is also linked to the anonymized user name. If the store name was also anonymized
then the problem almost goes away. Or if the link between the user and the
now closed store was anonymized, it also almost goes away. Only almost of course,
since many users will have data stored in their email that can still link the
username to the store, although they will also have more old data in the email
anyway.

The problem of course, is the store name is not an individual's data, but
the data of a (former) business so it does not have the same rights to be forgotten.
And in fact, the apparent personal data found elsewhere that can be linked to
the store name is not actually personal data, but business data. It will be whatever
data the company registered with on those other sites. If they used a personal
address for the business, it is business data.