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| | | Author: | Fr0stByt3  | | Posted: | Jan 6, 2024 19:10 | | Subject: | Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 108 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| As you can see, it's all over the place and it only happens on Bricklink.
I think it's my OS because I used different browsers and all did the same
thing but I could be wrong.
On another note, that icky font is called "Tacoma, Arial" so at least
I know what font to avoid when I go to write something up.
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 03:03 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
| | As you can see, it's all over the place and it only happens on Bricklink.
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Well, no, we can’t see anything on that screenshot 
The forum reduces pics to 640 pixels in width.
| | I think it's my OS because I used different browsers and all did the same
thing but I could be wrong.
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To be precise, it’s not “Linux” that’s at fault, it’d be your distribution (or
you, for not knowing, but whose fault is it when one doesn’t know?).
| | On another note, that icky font is called "Tacoma, Arial" so at least
I know what font to avoid when I go to write something up.
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Explanations
Tahoma (with an h) and Arial are two fonts. The site tells the browser:
use Tahoma, and if you can’t find it, use Arial.
When the browser can’t find either one, it uses a default font. The default
font depends on the browser and the underlying font system (and, therefore, the
default config in your distrib).
Then, different fonts have different metrics (dimensions, kernings…) and that
may cause problems if you use one instead of another.
That would be what is happening to you.
Tahoma is a Microsoft font. Arial is an older font from Monotype. Both are
always present in Windows and macOS nowadays, but they are non-free and are not
installed by default on many Linux distributions (and other free & OSS systems).
Solution
So, you just need to install those fonts.
Arial:
On Debian-based distributions (APT), Arial can be installed with the help of
the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package which will download the older ‘standard’
MS fonts.
Other distributions will have a similar package with a similar name.
Tahoma:
If you have a licence (a Windows or Office licence can do), you may copy that
font from a Windows system or download it from Microsoft (somewhere…).
How to install it then depends on your environment/distrib. (Copying the .ttf
in ~/.local/share/fonts and executing ‘fc-cache -fv’ could be enough… well after
a restart of your browser at least. You may also use your desktop’s configuration
tool.)
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| | | | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 09:37 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | Solution
So, you just need to install those fonts.
Arial:
On Debian-based distributions (APT), Arial can be installed with the help of
the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package which will download the older ‘standard’
MS fonts.
Other distributions will have a similar package with a similar name.
Tahoma:
If you have a licence (a Windows or Office licence can do), you may copy that
font from a Windows system or download it from Microsoft (somewhere…).
How to install it then depends on your environment/distrib. (Copying the .ttf
in ~/.local/share/fonts and executing ‘fc-cache -fv’ could be enough… well after
a restart of your browser at least. You may also use your desktop’s configuration
tool.)
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Installed them and restarted the browser but no dice. I think the fonts are installed
already. My distro is Zorin OS 17, and Zorin is a fork of Ubuntu so that shouldn't
be an issue, right?
If nothing else, I can use TamperMonkey and execute a script to swap out the
fonts until a better solution is found.
What's the default font for those elements using "Tahoma, Arial"?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 11:31 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
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Installed them and restarted the browser but no dice. […]
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What happens when you type “fc-match -s tahoma” (or arial) in a terminal?
Warning, the output will be rather long, you may add “| less” to page it.
The user-installed font should be on the first line.
In any case, that gives you the list of fonts the system will propose when it’s
asked for ‘tahoma.’
Then, you can look in your browser’s configuration for its default font (I think
it should be the desktop’s default font… and you can check that in the desktop
config).
Your desktop environment (Gnome I guess?) should also have a font manager where
you can explore (and install) fonts.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
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Installed them and restarted the browser but no dice. […]
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What happens when you type “fc-match -s tahoma” (or arial) in a terminal?
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LOL LOL LOL
To remember "fc-match -s [fontname]" ohhh that's sooo convenient!
I thought it was because Microsoft's aggressive marketing that 80% of (non-autistic
geeks) people use Windows
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
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| | What happens when you type “fc-match -s tahoma” (or arial) in a terminal?
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LOL LOL LOL
To remember "fc-match -s [fontname]" ohhh that's sooo convenient! […]
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Well, I could have said “click here and there and then here” but it happens I
find it simpler to just give a command line.
What’s the Windows solution?
“If you have version N, click here and there and then here, if you have version
M, click there first and then here, and the name is now X not Y, or maybe Z because
they changed it again with the last Tuesday path, and anyway I don’t care because
‘it works for me’™.”
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:03 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| | | What’s the Windows solution?
“If you have version N, click here and there and then here, if you have version
M, click there first and then here, and the name is now X not Y, or maybe Z because
they changed it again with the last Tuesday path, and anyway I don’t care because
‘it works for me’™.”
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Wrong - you'll easily find a 25 minutes sponsored tutorial on Youtube!!!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:19 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | What’s the Windows solution?
“If you have version N, click here and there and then here, if you have version
M, click there first and then here, and the name is now X not Y, or maybe Z because
they changed it again with the last Tuesday path, and anyway I don’t care because
‘it works for me’™.”
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Wrong - you'll easily find a 25 minutes sponsored tutorial on Youtube!!!
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Chat GPT helped me to make this script of the Video
Sponsored by SouthVPN
It's excellent!
Unraveling the Font Mysteries: A Tedious Expedition into Tahoma Existence
on Windows Systems
[Opening Scene]
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us on this pixelated odyssey!
[Scene 1: Historical Background]
Now, before we start, let's take a stroll through the ancient scrolls of
Windows history. Legend has it that Tahoma, the font of elegance, was born in
the mystical land of Microsoft. It is said to have been crafted by the pixel-perfect
hands of typographers who possessed an otherworldly love for serifs.
[Scene 2: Windows XP - The Cryptic Era]
Our expedition begins with Windows XP, a time when Tahoma was rumored to be etched
into the very soul of the operating system. To summon it, you must traverse the
labyrinthine Control Panel, navigate the font folder hidden in the darkest corners,
and perform a ritualistic dance with the font settings. Beware of the Comic Sans
traps along the way; they're notorious for leading unsuspecting adventurers
astray.
[Scene 3: Windows 7 - The Renaissance]
As we transition to Windows 7, the font landscape undergoes a renaissance. Tahoma
hides behind layers of system files, masquerading as a mere system font. Uncover
its existence by deciphering the cryptic language of the Registry Editor – a
place where only the bravest dare to tread. It's like finding a needle in
a haystack, only the haystack is made of DLL files.
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[Scene 4: Windows 10 - The Font Conundrum]
Fast forward to the modern era, Windows 10. Tahoma plays hide-and-seek in the
vast expanse of the Settings app. Unravel the font mysteries by exploring the
Typography section, an elusive corner where fonts engage in a dance of opulence.
But beware, for Tahoma might be camouflaged among its font brethren, waiting
for you to crack the code.
[Scene 5: Conclusion - The Font Unveiling]
After hours of navigating the font wilderness, you finally stumble upon Tahoma,
standing proudly amidst the serif and sans-serif landscapes. A triumphant victory,
as you witness the font in all its glory.
[Closing Scene]
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journey filled with twists, turns, and more fonts than you ever imagined. If
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[End Credits]
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:27 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
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| | Wrong - you'll easily find a 25 minutes sponsored tutorial on Youtube!!!
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Chat GPT helped me to make this script of the Video
Sponsored by SouthVPN
It's excellent! […]
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Well, it doesn’t explain how to install the font and/or check it’s correctly
used by your browser…
… which means it’s perfectly mimicking real videos!
25 min of mumbled or slurred blah and ads and nothing useful!
Excellent indeed
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:32 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
| | […]
| | Wrong - you'll easily find a 25 minutes sponsored tutorial on Youtube!!!
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Chat GPT helped me to make this script of the Video
Sponsored by SouthVPN
It's excellent! […]
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Well, it doesn’t explain how to install the font and/or check it’s correctly
used by your browser…
… which means it’s perfectly mimicking real videos!
25 min of mumbled or slurred blah and ads and nothing useful!
Excellent indeed
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Yes!
"If you enjoyed this font-astic adventure, don't forget to
like, subscribe, and hit that notification bell to stay updated on our future
typographic expeditions!"
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:52 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, 1001bricks writes:
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"If you enjoyed this font-astic adventure, don't forget to
like, subscribe, and hit that notification bell to stay updated on our future
typographic expeditions!"
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*sigh* So many useless but lucrative ventures I missed exploiting since I discovered
the Pipotron™.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jan 8, 2024 00:11 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 13:58 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
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Installed them and restarted the browser but no dice. […]
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What happens when you type “fc-match -s tahoma” (or arial) in a terminal?
Warning, the output will be rather long, you may add “| less” to page it.
The user-installed font should be on the first line.
In any case, that gives you the list of fonts the system will propose when it’s
asked for ‘tahoma.’
Then, you can look in your browser’s configuration for its default font (I think
it should be the desktop’s default font… and you can check that in the desktop
config).
Your desktop environment (Gnome I guess?) should also have a font manager where
you can explore (and install) fonts.
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It's installed and it's actually rendering Tahoma properly. At smaller
scales, that font is somewhat illegible.
So that partially solves things but I'm curious to know if that font is what
Bricklink is supposed to display in some places. If it is, then I think my only
two options are trying to get it to render a different font in its place or to
continue the route I am and use TamperMonkey to execute JavaScript to swap it
out.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 14:04 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
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So that partially solves things but I'm curious to know if that font is what
Bricklink is supposed to display in some places.
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Well, if you post some (zoomed-in and cropped!) screenshot, we could compare
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| | | | | | | Author: | Fr0stByt3 | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 14:03 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
| | As you can see, it's all over the place and it only happens on Bricklink.
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Well, no, we can’t see anything on that screenshot
The forum reduces pics to 640 pixels in width.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 7, 2024 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
(Default font is Deja Vu Sans-serif or Noto Sans for me.)
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| | | | | Author: | sandman | | Posted: | Jan 18, 2024 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Bricklink Font on Linux | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Technical Issues | |
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| In Technical Issues, Fr0stByt3 writes:
| | As you can see, it's all over the place and it only happens on Bricklink.
I think it's my OS because I used different browsers and all did the same
thing but I could be wrong.
On another note, that icky font is called "Tacoma, Arial" so at least
I know what font to avoid when I go to write something up.
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If you are on Ubuntu or Debian, the easiest way to fix this is to remove the
"wine-fonts" package (this package installs an ugly, fake Tahoma font,
because the original Microsoft font cannot be distributed).
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.2/+bug/412195
If you do need wine (and thus wine-fonts), you're screwed and need to copy
over a real Tahoma font from a Windows system.
cu
Robert
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