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| | | Author: | sonnich  | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 15:41 | | Subject: | My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 219 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| Hi all
I made some custom instructions and but them on BL. 2 days later they were removed.
I wrote:
Custom instructions, PDF, for this vintage car based on the Ford T.
The instructions will be sent as printed papers to the buyers address.
The instructions comes as 12 pages.
Perfect for old style town or Winter Village
And a picture (attached here)
I looked at this for how to do things:
https://store.bricklink.com/Miro78?itemID=103847637#/shop
Now I wonder what it my difference.
They pointed out
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103
Now I wonder what it the reason.
The first statement is:
LEGO® Brand Only: All items listed for sale must be LEGO® brand products unless
they fall into either of the two categories listed below – 5. (Custom Sets) or
6. (Non LEGO Items). Other brands of building toys are not permitted.
It is instructions for Lego Bricks, made with the Studio downloaded from Bricklink.
The instructions do not matter, the advertisement does.
Talking of other brands, it should be Lego. This is car, as I wrote, it is _based_
on Ford T, but as with Lego for Town, not 100% correct, and there are a lot of
models of Ford T.
The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly. Secondly, as for models and custom
models, they have inspiration on real life.
Also it fall under the category of custom sets (instructions).
The statement also refers to a list that is not there. I pointed that out, but
I have never got any answer from Admins.
Can anyone explain, what it could be?
I have tried to contact any bricklink help or admin for a week, and they do not
answer.
I do not expect any answer or help from them, as I spent 7 or so years explaining
them that the Estonian Kroon was history, we got the Euro, but Bricklink kept
showing me prices in Estoian Krooni for app 7 years into Euro times. I wrote
to them so many times, but either they ignore me or do not read at all.
Therefore I do not expect any help from the Admins.
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| | | | | Author: | sonnich | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 15:46 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| I cannot edit so:
I had the offer of PDF by email, or printed version by mail
This text is from the printed version.
In Help, sonnich writes:
| | Hi all
I made some custom instructions and but them on BL. 2 days later they were removed.
I wrote:
Custom instructions, PDF, for this vintage car based on the Ford T.
The instructions will be sent as printed papers to the buyers address.
The instructions comes as 12 pages.
Perfect for old style town or Winter Village
And a picture (attached here)
I looked at this for how to do things:
https://store.bricklink.com/Miro78?itemID=103847637#/shop
Now I wonder what it my difference.
They pointed out
http://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=103
Now I wonder what it the reason.
The first statement is:
LEGO® Brand Only: All items listed for sale must be LEGO® brand products unless
they fall into either of the two categories listed below – 5. (Custom Sets) or
6. (Non LEGO Items). Other brands of building toys are not permitted.
It is instructions for Lego Bricks, made with the Studio downloaded from Bricklink.
The instructions do not matter, the advertisement does.
Talking of other brands, it should be Lego. This is car, as I wrote, it is _based_
on Ford T, but as with Lego for Town, not 100% correct, and there are a lot of
models of Ford T.
The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly. Secondly, as for models and custom
models, they have inspiration on real life.
Also it fall under the category of custom sets (instructions).
The statement also refers to a list that is not there. I pointed that out, but
I have never got any answer from Admins.
Can anyone explain, what it could be?
I have tried to contact any bricklink help or admin for a week, and they do not
answer.
I do not expect any answer or help from them, as I spent 7 or so years explaining
them that the Estonian Kroon was history, we got the Euro, but Bricklink kept
showing me prices in Estoian Krooni for app 7 years into Euro times. I wrote
to them so many times, but either they ignore me or do not read at all.
Therefore I do not expect any help from the Admins.
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 15:49 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 15:54 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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Ford is interesting in Brave New World (A. Huxley):
People say things like 'Oh, Ford!' and 'Fordey!' The new sign,
replacing the cross, is a T, or a cross with the top chopped off, which alludes
to the Model T, the first Ford (as in the motor vehicle company) car. 'Ford'
is also a corruption of the word Freud, otherwise known as the last name of the
psychologist Sigmund Freud [...]
An incredible book, BTW.
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| | | | | | | Author: | sonnich | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 15:58 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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I can do that, but as it state if first rule, it seems like it does not apply
to custom sets. Secondly it is "based on".
I did not do that, as they can remove that too and I can try forever, so I preferred
to ask and verify with BL. Otherwise we could end in an endless ring which is
annoying for them as well as for me.
But if they choose not to answer, then I guess that is the way to go.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 16:04 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, sonnich writes:
| | In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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I can do that, but as it state if first rule, it seems like it does not apply
to custom sets.
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It's copyright things.
One CANNOT post a MOC titled "Coca Cola bottle made in LEGO" (and here
it'd be violations of 2 IPs).
At home you do what you wish, but in public you simply can't, or shouldn't
(depending the brand they may send you a lawyers letter or not)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Help, sonnich writes:
| | In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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I can do that, but as it state if first rule, it seems like it does not apply
to custom sets.
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It's copyright things.
One CANNOT post a MOC titled "Coca Cola bottle made in LEGO" (and here
it'd be violations of 2 IPs).
At home you do what you wish, but in public you simply can't, or shouldn't
(depending the brand they may send you a lawyers letter or not)
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Trademark, not copyright in this situation.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:55 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, popsicle writes:
| | In Help, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Help, sonnich writes:
| | In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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I can do that, but as it state if first rule, it seems like it does not apply
to custom sets.
|
It's copyright things.
One CANNOT post a MOC titled "Coca Cola bottle made in LEGO" (and here
it'd be violations of 2 IPs).
At home you do what you wish, but in public you simply can't, or shouldn't
(depending the brand they may send you a lawyers letter or not)
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Trademark, not copyright in this situation.
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But your intent is genuine
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, popsicle writes:
| | In Help, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Help, sonnich writes:
| | In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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I can do that, but as it state if first rule, it seems like it does not apply
to custom sets.
|
It's copyright things.
One CANNOT post a MOC titled "Coca Cola bottle made in LEGO" (and here
it'd be violations of 2 IPs).
At home you do what you wish, but in public you simply can't, or shouldn't
(depending the brand they may send you a lawyers letter or not)
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Trademark, not copyright in this situation.
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I said it first (c)(tm)(r):
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1443558
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:57 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Help, popsicle writes:
| | In Help, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Help, sonnich writes:
| | In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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I can do that, but as it state if first rule, it seems like it does not apply
to custom sets.
|
It's copyright things.
One CANNOT post a MOC titled "Coca Cola bottle made in LEGO" (and here
it'd be violations of 2 IPs).
At home you do what you wish, but in public you simply can't, or shouldn't
(depending the brand they may send you a lawyers letter or not)
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Trademark, not copyright in this situation.
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I said it first (c)(tm)(r):
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1443558
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+1
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| | | | | | | Author: | sonnich | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 16:02 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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How did you mention Ford indirectly? You don't have thevrights to the Ford
name, so you cannot use it. You can list an "vintage car".
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Well, now I try without name:
https://store.bricklink.com/sonnich&itemID=383480100#/shop
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 16:06 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, sonnich writes:
Hi,
Disclaimer: Non authoritative answer, I’m just guessing (not talking for BL or
LEGO).
Well, IP infringement isn’t explicit in that list but…
| | Now I wonder what it the reason.
[…]
Talking of other brands, it should be Lego. This is car, as I wrote, it is _based_
on Ford T, but as with Lego for Town, not 100% correct, and there are a lot of
models of Ford T.
The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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I would say that’s enough to be deemed IP infringement. The model doesn’t need
to be even 1% correct, just saying “based on Ford model T” is enough.
| | Secondly, as for models and custom
models, they have inspiration on real life.
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Yes, but to claim you modelize X (even if you fail), you need to have a licence
from X. Unless X is free/libre (a tree, a bird, something generic).
You’ll notice Miro says “1930s era Delivery Truck.” Not a brand.
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I have tried to contact any bricklink help or admin for a week, and they do not
answer.
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I guess they think the motivation they gave is sufficient.
| | I do not expect any answer or help from them, as I spent 7 or so years explaining
them that the Estonian Kroon was history, we got the Euro, but Bricklink kept
showing me prices in Estoian Krooni for app 7 years into Euro times. I wrote
to them so many times, but either they ignore me or do not read at all.
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Admins changed a few times since then….
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| | | | | | | Author: | sonnich | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 16:58 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Help, sonnich writes:
Hi,
Disclaimer: Non authoritative answer, I’m just guessing (not talking for BL or
LEGO).
Well, IP infringement isn’t explicit in that list but…
| | Now I wonder what it the reason.
[…]
Talking of other brands, it should be Lego. This is car, as I wrote, it is _based_
on Ford T, but as with Lego for Town, not 100% correct, and there are a lot of
models of Ford T.
The brand Ford is mentioned, but not directly.
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I would say that’s enough to be deemed IP infringement. The model doesn’t need
to be even 1% correct, just saying “based on Ford model T” is enough.
| | Secondly, as for models and custom
models, they have inspiration on real life.
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Yes, but to claim you modelize X (even if you fail), you need to have a licence
from X. Unless X is free/libre (a tree, a bird, something generic).
You’ll notice Miro says “1930s era Delivery Truck.” Not a brand.
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I have tried to contact any bricklink help or admin for a week, and they do not
answer.
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I guess they think the motivation they gave is sufficient.
| | I do not expect any answer or help from them, as I spent 7 or so years explaining
them that the Estonian Kroon was history, we got the Euro, but Bricklink kept
showing me prices in Estoian Krooni for app 7 years into Euro times. I wrote
to them so many times, but either they ignore me or do not read at all.
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Admins changed a few times since then….
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What is IP infringement?
What is IP short for?
I am not a native English speaker
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:03 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, sonnich writes:
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What is IP infringement?
What is IP short for?
I am not a native English speaker
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Intellectual Property
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:36 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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While here it's more about Trademark (a registered one) than an IP (if I'm
not mistaking) but that's basically the same problem.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Dec 14, 2023 17:52 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, 1001bricks writes:
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While here it's more about Trademark (a registered one) than an IP (if I'm
not mistaking) but that's basically the same problem.
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Short answer. You don't have the right to use the brand name of Ford in
any automotive context without their permission. You can say inspired by the
famous first successful mass-produced car.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Dec 15, 2023 01:02 | | Subject: | Re: My item was removed - why? | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | Help | |
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| In Help, 1001bricks writes:
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While here it's more about Trademark (a registered one) than an IP (if I'm
not mistaking) but that's basically the same problem.
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Trademarks are a kind of IP.
“The best-known types are patents, copyrights, trademarks, and trade secrets.”
— WP (as linked by Jennnifer)
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