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| | | Author: | David892  | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 01:26 | | Subject: | Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 102 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| Good evening,
While sorting parts, I came across a Utensil Cup (Mug) 3899 that was trans-red
color.
I looked at the item with a magnifying glass and I came to the conclusion that
this was probably Megablocks of another brand that copies Lego. It looks very
similar to a true 3899 item, but the lip seems different and (of course) no Lego
marking anywhere.
However, I see that this color is referenced in the Bricklink Catalog (not as
known but in the "All" category) and that even 10 sellers offer such
items worldwide.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3899&name=Minifigure,%20Utensil%20Cup&category=%5BMinifigure,%20Utensil%5D#T=C&C=17
My opinion is that this color is not produced by Lego and therefore should be
deleted from the catalog.
Can anybody provide an expertise on my affirmation? Is there something we can
do to prove if I'm right or wrong?
Thanks a lot!
David
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| | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 07:06 | | Subject: | Re: Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, David892 writes:
| | Good evening,
While sorting parts, I came across a Utensil Cup (Mug) 3899 that was trans-red
color.
I looked at the item with a magnifying glass and I came to the conclusion that
this was probably Megablocks of another brand that copies Lego. It looks very
similar to a true 3899 item, but the lip seems different and (of course) no Lego
marking anywhere.
However, I see that this color is referenced in the Bricklink Catalog (not as
known but in the "All" category) and that even 10 sellers offer such
items worldwide.
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=3899&name=Minifigure,%20Utensil%20Cup&category=%5BMinifigure,%20Utensil%5D#T=C&C=17
My opinion is that this color is not produced by Lego and therefore should be
deleted from the catalog.
Can anybody provide an expertise on my affirmation? Is there something we can
do to prove if I'm right or wrong?
Thanks a lot!
David
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I don’t think it exists, either. There is absolutely no Element ID for it in
any LEGO data that I can find.
Can you post a picture of it next to a real trans-clear or trans-dark pink
LEGO cup from the side? I think the rim looks different on the trans-red image,
also, but I would like to see the difference better if possible.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | | | Author: | David892 | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 10:47 | | Subject: | Re: Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Good morning Randy,
Here is a picture comparing 2 "trans-red" 3899 items with 2 official
items (trans-dark pink and trans-clear).
It is difficult to render in a picture but the color seems off when comparing
to a real trans-red brick. Also, top lid seems more rounded and a difference
can be seen at the bottom.
Best regards,
David
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | randyf | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 11:47 | | Subject: | Re: Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, David892 writes:
| | Good morning Randy,
Here is a picture comparing 2 "trans-red" 3899 items with 2 official
items (trans-dark pink and trans-clear).
It is difficult to render in a picture but the color seems off when comparing
to a real trans-red brick. Also, top lid seems more rounded and a difference
can be seen at the bottom.
Best regards,
David
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My bet would definitely be for a knock-off brand. There are too many differences
in the molds between the known LEGO ones and the trans-red ones (the handle length
is different, the rim height is different, and the bottom is different from what
I can easily see in your image). I have decided to remove the image on BrickLink.
Cheers,
Randy
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 11:28 | | Subject: | Re: Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, David892 writes:
| | My opinion is that this color is not produced by Lego and therefore should be
deleted from the catalog.
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Since we're only talking about a variant color of a piece that really does
exist, what you are talking about is really only sort of in the catalog. It
gets a real foothold only by being in an inventory. It isn't in any. All
it is is a picture that helps sellers who might have one to sell theirs. They'd
be responsible and accountable for it being real. There are a bunch of different
ways that a real piece can exist in a color that wasn't mass produced, so
yours being an off-brand wouldn't mean that the other sellers' pieces
are.
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| | | | | | | Author: | David892 | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 11:39 | | Subject: | Re: Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Good morning,
I understand your point but at the same time I feel bad to list these items when
there are absolutely no Lego markings on the items and that the color is not
"known" in the Bricklink catalog.
That's why I was asking if there was a way to know for sure if Lego manufactured
this color at all. Some kind of an official way to find out.
The "trans-red" items I have look pretty much like real 3899 items (as
shown on the pictures), but I think they're "good copies" and not
a rare color produced by Lego.
Best regards,
David
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2023 14:51 | | Subject: | Re: Questioning Trans-Red Color of item 3899 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, David892 writes:
| | Good morning,
I understand your point but at the same time I feel bad to list these items when
there are absolutely no Lego markings on the items and that the color is not
"known" in the Bricklink catalog.
That's why I was asking if there was a way to know for sure if Lego manufactured
this color at all. Some kind of an official way to find out.
The "trans-red" items I have look pretty much like real 3899 items (as
shown on the pictures), but I think they're "good copies" and not
a rare color produced by Lego.
Best regards,
David
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Yes, don't risk it if you don't feel confident. Especially after making
a public confession that you think it might be fake! That'd look pretty
bad when a customer was upset. 
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