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 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: Nov 18, 2023 17:11
 Subject: Request to add Warm Yellowish Orange
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Despite only appearing in one set in 2004, at least 23 other parts exist in this
color. Since 2019, 18 of these have been seen, many of which are sourced from
LEGOLAND model shops. In 2023 alone, thousands of plates have been listed as
‘Light Orange’ and ‘Very Light Orange’, despite not being either of those colors.


 
Part No: 3001  Name: Brick 2 x 4
* 
3001 Brick 2 x 4
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(See alternate photo)
 
Part No: 3002  Name: Brick 2 x 3
* 
3002 Brick 2 x 3
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3003  Name: Brick 2 x 2
* 
3003 Brick 2 x 2
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3004  Name: Brick 1 x 2
* 
3004 Brick 1 x 2
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(See alternate photo)
 
Part No: 3005  Name: Brick 1 x 1
* 
3005 Brick 1 x 1
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(Actual Light Orange photo was deleted)
 
Part No: 3008  Name: Brick 1 x 8
* 
3008 Brick 1 x 8
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3009  Name: Brick 1 x 6
* 
3009 Brick 1 x 6
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3010  Name: Brick 1 x 4
* 
3010 Brick 1 x 4
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3622  Name: Brick 1 x 3
* 
3622 Brick 1 x 3
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(See alternate photo)
 
Part No: 3020  Name: Plate 2 x 4
* 
3020 Plate 2 x 4
Parts: Plate
 
Part No: 3022  Name: Plate 2 x 2
* 
3022 Plate 2 x 2
Parts: Plate {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3023  Name: Plate 1 x 2
* 
3023 Plate 1 x 2
Parts: Plate {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate {Light Orange}
[P=3069b,32]

This color also comes in 3021, 2357, 44237, and 3794a.

The lack of a Warm Yellowish Orange makes it very difficult to know what color
you’re getting from sellers, especially since many of these parts also come in
Scala Light Orange and Very Light Orange, the latter of which is also showing
up at various LEGOLAND PAB walls alongside Warm Yellowish Orange.

 
Part No: 6490  Name: Duplo, Plate 8 x 16
* 
6490 Duplo, Plate 8 x 16
Parts: DUPLO, Plate {Light Orange}
is the only production part in this color.

Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Nov 18, 2023 18:23
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In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David
 Author: Nubs_Select View Messages Posted By Nubs_Select
 Posted: Nov 18, 2023 18:49
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here4bricks614 knows everything (what are next week's lottery numbers here4bricks614?)
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Nov 19, 2023 10:19
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David

What we call an element number is in fact a factory floor production number,
identifying a unique mold and color (pellet or pigment). If the parts were actually
made, even for the model shop, they should have had a 7-digit number for production
identification. Where an intended color, collides with dye/pigment variations,
is the big question here. Was this an intentional color or was this something
that just happened.

2004 was the moment in time when quite a bit of excess odd and ends were being
flushed to the bonus boxes. Bonus boxes were inventoried based on our best understanding
of what the colors were, but something really beyond normal availability might
have slipped thru with a slightly incorrect color. The bonus boxes also received
some parts, in a few colors, where the color consistency wandered all over the
map (to put it mildly).

Nita Rae
 Author: WoutR View Messages Posted By WoutR
 Posted: Nov 19, 2023 11:01
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In Colors, cosmicray writes:
  (...) Was this an intentional color or was this something that just happened.

This was an intentional colour. LEGO's official colour number and name are
225 Warm Yellowish Orange.
 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David

The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

My problem with BL not recognizing this color is the considerable overlap with
other similar colors. Many of the same parts exist in all three colors. Correction:
24* parts

3005 - 4243861
3004 - 4243862
3622 - 4243863
3009 - 4243865
3010 - 4243866
3008 - 4243867
2357 - 4243868
3003 - 4243869
3002 - 4243871
3001 - 4243872
44237 - 4243873
3007 - 4243874
3024 - 4243875
3023 - 4243876
3623 - 4243877
3710 - 4243878
3022 - 4243879
3021 - 4243880
3020 - 4243881
3794 - 4243882
3070 - 4243883
3069 - 4243885
6541 - 4243886
3700 - 4244445
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David

The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

My problem with BL not recognizing this color is the considerable overlap with
other similar colors.


Long ago I suggested we need an official color board, something issued/sold by
TLG. Something that contains one 2x2 tile for each color, with the TLG color
number printed on it in one corner. Something we can turn to as an absolute reference
palette.

One baseplate (a 48x48 could handle 576 reference tiles), and a few bags of tiles
to be applied to the baseplate.


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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

If they didn't come from sets, then where did you get the element IDs for
them?

David

The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.
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In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.

Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.

David
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In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.

Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.

David

This information can be found on other websites. Some CS reps will direct you
to BrickLink, while others will dig through the database for info.
 Author: WOLKsite View Messages Posted By WOLKsite
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In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, axaday writes:
  In Colors, crazylegoman writes:
  In Colors, here4bricks614 writes:
  The official parts database and LEGO Customer Service.

How would you get a hold of that without being a LEGO employee?

David

It is fairly easy to get ahold of Customer Service. They have a published phone
number.

Yes of course, but if you call them and ask for element IDs of parts that have
never been in sets, I imagine you're not going to get very far before the
person on the other end starts wondering why on earth you'd want that information.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen, it just sounds very odd.

David

This information can be found on other websites. Some CS reps will direct you
to BrickLink, while others will dig through the database for info.

Some are available on Bricks & Pieces if you know how to dig through that, others
were viewable through older versions of Customer Service, though are now inaccessible
through the public view. LDD also has some in it, with questionable accuracy.
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FYI, there have been hundreds of q elements in TLG 225 coming out of Legoland
Florida. Currently, if a brick or plate (aside from 6490, ofc) is correctly
listed as Light Orange, most of the time, it's TLG 225 (especially if the
listing stays up for a while and it's not a 3004 or 3622).

Splitting the colors on bricklink isn't going to keep people from erroneously
listing Medium Orange and Bright Light Orange as Light Orange.


I'd still be more interested in having Light Brown renamed, since it's
a little bit darker than Medium Brown; and renaming it to Bionicle Brown might
actually keep people from incorrectly listing things in that color.
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In Catalog Requests, crimson30 writes:
  FYI, there have been hundreds of q elements in TLG 225 coming out of Legoland
Florida.

Coming as in it is happening now?
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No, I meant that people have recently acquired large quantities which are hitting
the market.
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In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, crimson30 writes:
  FYI, there have been hundreds of q elements in TLG 225 coming out of Legoland
Florida.

Coming as in it is happening now?

In the past 15 years or so. Very few at first, more of them in the past few years.
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In Catalog Requests, WoutR writes:
  In Catalog Requests, axaday writes:
  In Catalog Requests, crimson30 writes:
  FYI, there have been hundreds of q elements in TLG 225 coming out of Legoland
Florida.

Coming as in it is happening now?

In the past 15 years or so. Very few at first, more of them in the past few years.

That is pretty cool.
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In Catalog Requests, here4bricks614 writes:
  Despite only appearing in one set in 2004, at least 23 other parts exist in this
color. Since 2019, 18 of these have been seen, many of which are sourced from
LEGOLAND model shops. In 2023 alone, thousands of plates have been listed as
‘Light Orange’ and ‘Very Light Orange’, despite not being either of those colors.


 
Part No: 3001  Name: Brick 2 x 4
* 
3001 Brick 2 x 4
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(See alternate photo)
 
Part No: 3002  Name: Brick 2 x 3
* 
3002 Brick 2 x 3
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3003  Name: Brick 2 x 2
* 
3003 Brick 2 x 2
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3004  Name: Brick 1 x 2
* 
3004 Brick 1 x 2
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(See alternate photo)
 
Part No: 3005  Name: Brick 1 x 1
* 
3005 Brick 1 x 1
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(Actual Light Orange photo was deleted)
 
Part No: 3008  Name: Brick 1 x 8
* 
3008 Brick 1 x 8
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3009  Name: Brick 1 x 6
* 
3009 Brick 1 x 6
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3010  Name: Brick 1 x 4
* 
3010 Brick 1 x 4
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3622  Name: Brick 1 x 3
* 
3622 Brick 1 x 3
Parts: Brick {Light Orange}
(See alternate photo)
 
Part No: 3020  Name: Plate 2 x 4
* 
3020 Plate 2 x 4
Parts: Plate
 
Part No: 3022  Name: Plate 2 x 2
* 
3022 Plate 2 x 2
Parts: Plate {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3023  Name: Plate 1 x 2
* 
3023 Plate 1 x 2
Parts: Plate {Light Orange}
 
Part No: 3024  Name: Plate 1 x 1
* 
3024 Plate 1 x 1
Parts: Plate {Light Orange}
[P=3069b,32]

This color also comes in 3021, 2357, 44237, and 3794a.

The lack of a Warm Yellowish Orange makes it very difficult to know what color
you’re getting from sellers, especially since many of these parts also come in
Scala Light Orange and Very Light Orange, the latter of which is also showing
up at various LEGOLAND PAB walls alongside Warm Yellowish Orange.

 
Part No: 6490  Name: Duplo, Plate 8 x 16
* 
6490 Duplo, Plate 8 x 16
Parts: DUPLO, Plate {Light Orange}
is the only production part in this color.

Every part in the aforementioned list has its own element number that can be
added to the site. This color should be added as Warm Yellowish Orange.

The case for this is even stronger now than it was when I posted this. This color
popped up in 3007 and 3070 yesterday.