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 Author: BondBricks View Messages Posted By BondBricks
 Posted: Oct 19, 2023 15:20
 Subject: string length in set 6462 Aerial Recovery
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Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Oct 19, 2023 15:50
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In Help, BondBricks writes:
  Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark

There's confusion as to how many parts are in this actual set, which I believe
to be brickset's inventory not being complete:

Brickset.com states on it's entry for this set: "According to the set
database, this set has 194 parts." but the official LEGO instructions contain
158 parts. The inventory from LEGO.com contains 158 parts. This suggests that
the inventory is 81.4% complete."

The entry on peeron.com states that the string is braided, 21L, and contains
end studs.

http://peeron.com/inv/sets/6462-1

If anyone has a sealed 6462 please verify what is in it. The only sets for sale
on BrickLink are all used, some incomplete.

Apart from the string length, the BrickLink inventory looks pretty accurate.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: cosmicray View Messages Posted By cosmicray
 Posted: Oct 20, 2023 04:56
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In Help, ghyde writes:
  In Help, BondBricks writes:
  Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark

There's confusion as to how many parts are in this actual set, which I believe
to be brickset's inventory not being complete:m

Brickset.com states on it's entry for this set: "According to the set
database, this set has 194 parts." but the official LEGO instructions contain
158 parts. The inventory from LEGO.com contains 158 parts. This suggests that
the inventory is 81.4% complete."

The entry on peeron.com states that the string is braided, 21L, and contains
end studs.

http://peeron.com/inv/sets/6462-1

If anyone has a sealed 6462 please verify what is in it. The only sets for sale
on BrickLink are all used, some incomplete.

Apart from the string length, the BrickLink inventory looks pretty accurate.

Cheers ...

ghyde

There are also some sets where the string is sold inclusive to a reel and hook.
So it could be listed like that.

Nita Rae
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: Oct 20, 2023 15:55
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In Help, cosmicray writes:
  In Help, ghyde writes:
  In Help, BondBricks writes:
  Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark

There's confusion as to how many parts are in this actual set, which I believe
to be brickset's inventory not being complete:m

Brickset.com states on it's entry for this set: "According to the set
database, this set has 194 parts." but the official LEGO instructions contain
158 parts. The inventory from LEGO.com contains 158 parts. This suggests that
the inventory is 81.4% complete."

The entry on peeron.com states that the string is braided, 21L, and contains
end studs.

http://peeron.com/inv/sets/6462-1

If anyone has a sealed 6462 please verify what is in it. The only sets for sale
on BrickLink are all used, some incomplete.

Apart from the string length, the BrickLink inventory looks pretty accurate.

Cheers ...

ghyde

There are also some sets where the string is sold inclusive to a reel and hook.
So it could be listed like that.

Nita Rae

Perusing the inventory shows no official association listed for it. The whole
point is to try and determine what the string length in the original set was,
if at all possible.

String for sets back then likely came in either a cardboard box containing the
string or it was wound onto a flat piece of cardboard with tabs and with the
string inserted into notches or taped down. I seem to recall a few LEGO sets
that had the latter variety whenever string was included in a set.

You wouldn't happen to have any 6462 sets awaiting parting out would you?


Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Oct 19, 2023 16:20
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In Help, BondBricks writes:
  Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark

Brickowl has it as 50cm long. So long as the longer string is genuine LEGO I
think you can use one that has been cut. After all, the strings were all originally
cut from a longer roll before being put into sets. I think the undetermined refers
to the length not being consistent over its production time. The length doesn't
really affect the play and it doesn't matter if it is off by a couple of
cm in production.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Oct 19, 2023 18:21
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  In Help, BondBricks writes:
  Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark

Brickowl has it as 50cm long. So long as the longer string is genuine LEGO I
think you can use one that has been cut. After all, the strings were all originally
cut from a longer roll before being put into sets. I think the undetermined refers
to the length not being consistent over its production time. The length doesn't
really affect the play and it doesn't matter if it is off by a couple of
cm in production.


Actually, the undetermined refers to the fact that no one has yet to correct
the inventory with the proper length of string that came with the set.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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Actually, the undetermined refers to the fact that no one has yet to correct
the inventory with the proper length of string that came with the set.

Ah yes. Even then, is there any guarantee the lengths are correct. I have a couple
of used strings from a set with a defined length and they are not exactly equal
to the length in the catalogue, both slightly different but over by up to 1cm.
Which suggests these either vary a little within production, have stretched in
use, were measured incorrectly or measured in a different way. It doesn't
matter for the function the string is used for, so not a big deal.
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 Posted: Oct 20, 2023 05:14
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  
Actually, the undetermined refers to the fact that no one has yet to correct
the inventory with the proper length of string that came with the set.

Ah yes. Even then, is there any guarantee the lengths are correct. I have a couple
of used strings from a set with a defined length and they are not exactly equal
to the length in the catalogue, both slightly different but over by up to 1cm.
Which suggests these either vary a little within production, have stretched in
use, were measured incorrectly or measured in a different way. It doesn't
matter for the function the string is used for, so not a big deal.

String lengths are not exact and can indeed vary a bit. I have some notes from
a few sets with x77ac30. The string lengths I found varied between 29.5 and 31
cm.
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
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In Help, yorbrick writes:
  
  
Actually, the undetermined refers to the fact that no one has yet to correct
the inventory with the proper length of string that came with the set.

Ah yes. Even then, is there any guarantee the lengths are correct. I have a couple
of used strings from a set with a defined length and they are not exactly equal
to the length in the catalogue, both slightly different but over by up to 1cm.
Which suggests these either vary a little within production, have stretched in
use, were measured incorrectly or measured in a different way. It doesn't
matter for the function the string is used for, so not a big deal.


The strings will fluctuate around the number it should be according to LEGO inventory
data. So, a 50cm string will likely fall somewhere between 48.5cm to 51.5cm.
For our purposes, we use the number that TLG intended the set to be used with.
 Author: BondBricks View Messages Posted By BondBricks
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Thankyou all for your comments.

I am thinking I will purchase a string so I can make it approximately 50cm in
length.
It would be nice if someone could update the length or part number in bricklink.
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As far as the number of parts go in the set, ...well, I will stick with bricklink
information. This is a different topic from my question.

Thanks,
Mark

In Help, BondBricks writes:
  Hello,

I wish to buy the string for set 6462 Aerial Recovery.
It is listed as:

x77a String, Cord Thin (Undetermined Length)

I see x77a listed with various lengths in the description. After someone tells
me length for set 6462 is it allowed to cut a longer string to that length.
OR does that mean I have ruined the string as a true Lego part?

How is it done to keep the set authentic? How to know proper string length?

Thanks,
Mark