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 Author: wyvern View Messages Posted By wyvern
 Posted: Sep 14, 2023 08:09
 Subject: Projectile questions
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 Topic: Catalog Requests
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wyvern (72)

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Why is this part under the Bar category:
 
Part No: 61680  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
* 
61680 Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
Parts: Projectile Launcher
but this very similar one is (rightfully so) under Projectile Launcher?
 
Part No: 15303  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
* 
15303 Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Meanwhile both of their respective bricks are under Projectile Launcher:
 
Part No: 61185c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
* 
61185c01 Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
Parts: Projectile Launcher
 
Part No: 15301c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
* 
15301c01 Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Also, how come there aren't relationships that match projectiles with their
compatible launchers, and vice versa? I feel like that would be useful.
 Author: crazylegoman View Messages Posted By crazylegoman
 Posted: Sep 14, 2023 11:50
 Subject: Re: Projectile questions
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In Catalog Requests, wyvern writes:
  Why is this part under the Bar category:
 
Part No: 61680  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
* 
61680 Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
Parts: Projectile Launcher
but this very similar one is (rightfully so) under Projectile Launcher?
 
Part No: 15303  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
* 
15303 Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Meanwhile both of their respective bricks are under Projectile Launcher:
 
Part No: 61185c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
* 
61185c01 Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
Parts: Projectile Launcher
 
Part No: 15301c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
* 
15301c01 Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Also, how come there aren't relationships that match projectiles with their
compatible launchers, and vice versa? I feel like that would be useful.

Everything you said makes 100% sense. 61680 should be moved to the Projectile
category, and projectiles + compatible launchers relationships should be added.

David
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 2, 2023 09:44
 Subject: Re: Projectile questions
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 Topic: Catalog Requests
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randyf (442)

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In Catalog Requests, wyvern writes:
  Why is this part under the Bar category:
 
Part No: 61680  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
* 
61680 Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
Parts: Projectile Launcher
but this very similar one is (rightfully so) under Projectile Launcher?
 
Part No: 15303  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
* 
15303 Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
Parts: Projectile Launcher


This has been completed in accordance with

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2599


  Meanwhile both of their respective bricks are under Projectile Launcher:
 
Part No: 61185c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
* 
61185c01 Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
Parts: Projectile Launcher
 
Part No: 15301c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
* 
15301c01 Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Also, how come there aren't relationships that match projectiles with their
compatible launchers, and vice versa? I feel like that would be useful.


To have a relationship like that, we would need to have two separate categories
for the projectiles and the projectile launchers similar to having two separate
categories for tires and wheels. This is something that can be discussed and
would only occur during a major catalog move cycle.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: Dec 2, 2023 13:31
 Subject: Re: Projectile questions
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 Topic: Catalog Requests
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Stellar (3484)

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In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, wyvern writes:
  Why is this part under the Bar category:
 
Part No: 61680  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
* 
61680 Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
Parts: Projectile Launcher
but this very similar one is (rightfully so) under Projectile Launcher?
 
Part No: 15303  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
* 
15303 Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
Parts: Projectile Launcher


This has been completed in accordance with

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2599


  Meanwhile both of their respective bricks are under Projectile Launcher:
 
Part No: 61185c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
* 
61185c01 Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
Parts: Projectile Launcher
 
Part No: 15301c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
* 
15301c01 Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Also, how come there aren't relationships that match projectiles with their
compatible launchers, and vice versa? I feel like that would be useful.


To have a relationship like that, we would need to have two separate categories
for the projectiles and the projectile launchers similar to having two separate
categories for tires and wheels. This is something that can be discussed and
would only occur during a major catalog move cycle.

Cheers,
Randy

Shouldn't Parts that Belong Together work?

It says:

This Item fits with and is usually used with the following Item(s):

It is even used in two parts of the previous example:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=21&catID=992
 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Dec 2, 2023 13:46
 Subject: Re: Projectile questions
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randyf (442)

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In Catalog Requests, Stellar writes:
  In Catalog Requests, randyf writes:
  In Catalog Requests, wyvern writes:
  Why is this part under the Bar category:
 
Part No: 61680  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
* 
61680 Projectile Arrow, Bar 6L with Round End
Parts: Projectile Launcher
but this very similar one is (rightfully so) under Projectile Launcher?
 
Part No: 15303  Name: Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
* 
15303 Projectile Arrow, Bar 8L with Round End (Spring Shooter Dart)
Parts: Projectile Launcher


This has been completed in accordance with

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=2599


  Meanwhile both of their respective bricks are under Projectile Launcher:
 
Part No: 61185c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
* 
61185c01 Projectile Launcher, 2 x 4 with 5 Studs, Axle Hole and Pin Lever
Parts: Projectile Launcher
 
Part No: 15301c01  Name: Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
* 
15301c01 Projectile Launcher, 1 x 4 Spring Shooter with Light Bluish Gray Top
Parts: Projectile Launcher

Also, how come there aren't relationships that match projectiles with their
compatible launchers, and vice versa? I feel like that would be useful.


To have a relationship like that, we would need to have two separate categories
for the projectiles and the projectile launchers similar to having two separate
categories for tires and wheels. This is something that can be discussed and
would only occur during a major catalog move cycle.

Cheers,
Randy

Shouldn't Parts that Belong Together work?

It says:

This Item fits with and is usually used with the following Item(s):

It is even used in two parts of the previous example:

https://www.bricklink.com/catalogRelList.asp?relID=21&catID=992


"Parts that Belong Together" is a flat 1:1 relationship, so it only makes
sense on items that only work with one other item and nothing else. It can't
do many:many. To do this properly, we would need a many:many relationship because
multiple projectiles can be used with multiple launchers.