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| | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys  | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 12:42 | | Subject: | Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 379 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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| | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 12:55 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 12:57 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Locking the forum behind a paywall is going to turn new users away from BrickLink.
I don’t think requiring accounts to be a day old would cause as many problems.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Locking the forum behind a paywall is going to turn new users away from BrickLink.
I don’t think requiring accounts to be a day old would cause as many problems.
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I mean the spammer would just wait a day then before posting (due to how infrequently
gummy posts are made (as in not every 15 min of anything) I think he does them
manually and just didn’t read what is posted) and then people who made an account
to post a question would be turned away
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:05 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Locking the forum behind a paywall is going to turn new users away from BrickLink.
I don’t think requiring accounts to be a day old would cause as many problems.
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PayWall vs TimeWall would yield the same results as far as disgruntled new members
would be concerned..
not sure a 24 hour delay would be any sort of effective at stopping the spamming
though.
the upside of a PayWall is if the new member does start spamming, bricklink knows
exactly who it is & their online info to block them from future spamming.
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 12:58 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message 
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:10 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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I’m happy not to be this Sylvian you talk about.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:16 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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they would not be turned away, they would just be redirected straight to Bricklink
Help Desk instead of the Forum.
if they want to be part of the Community, there should be requirements..
no different than the Seller PayWall that already exists... you cannot Sell on
Bricklink until you buy something...
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:26 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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they would not be turned away, they would just be redirected straight to Bricklink
Help Desk instead of the Forum.
if they want to be part of the Community, there should be requirements..
no different than the Seller PayWall that already exists... you cannot Sell on
Bricklink until you buy something...
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Forums should not be behind the paywall on bricklink. Not everything has to have
requirements. The forum is here to help others and a little fun spam shouldn’t
stop certain people from asking questions
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:00 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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they would not be turned away, they would just be redirected straight to Bricklink
Help Desk instead of the Forum.
if they want to be part of the Community, there should be requirements..
no different than the Seller PayWall that already exists... you cannot Sell on
Bricklink until you buy something...
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Forums should not be behind the paywall on bricklink. Not everything has to have
requirements. The forum is here to help others and a little fun spam shouldn’t
stop certain people from asking questions
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I wouldn’t call it “a little fun spam”. This is a daily occurrence and it’s very
annoying. The moron spamming the forum doesn’t even take the time to read his
links. Are we sure it isn’t a bot?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:05 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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they would not be turned away, they would just be redirected straight to Bricklink
Help Desk instead of the Forum.
if they want to be part of the Community, there should be requirements..
no different than the Seller PayWall that already exists... you cannot Sell on
Bricklink until you buy something...
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Forums should not be behind the paywall on bricklink. Not everything has to have
requirements. The forum is here to help others and a little fun spam shouldn’t
stop certain people from asking questions
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I wouldn’t call it “a little fun spam”. This is a daily occurrence and it’s very
annoying. The moron spamming the forum doesn’t even take the time to read his
links. Are we sure it isn’t a bot?
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i feel like i might just not know enough about it but i feel like if it was a
bot it would be at least a couple hours work to get it setup to do everything
it does meanwhile he post 1-2 message every few days about some gummies they
probably wont kill the people who eat them and probably lead to him getting 0
sales. he might even be reading this thread and continuing just for the sake
of having some fun. I highly doubt there is any major issues from once a day
spam as opposed to what we had in the past with 100+ back to back
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:21 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:25 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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I’m happy not to be this Sylvian you talk about.
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| | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:18 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:30 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement’s | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | I think ending the spam is more important than having a slightly inconvenienced
buyer - I get that having the forum open without requirements is helpful, but
at what cost? Most of the people who post here already have feedback, and a lot
of them don't even pay any mind to this portion of the site; I personally
didn't even know it was this active until I checked it out mid-2022, 4 years
after joining the site
I also think that it's bad for BL's image if people can see how easily
spam gets through - having the bare minimum requirements (1 positive feedback)
to post in the forum at least provides some form of security measures, and I'm
sure the real users will understand and actually appreciate that there's
some sort of preventative to bots
Bricklink is a marketplace first and foremost, and it just happens to have a
forum for people to use - if people wanted to discuss Lego without wanting to
purchase anything, then there are a handful of other sites to use that are far
more "active" than our place
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Isn’t bricklink more so a database funded by being a marketplace? So people who
want to inquire about topics regarding the database without being part of the
marketplace shouldn’t be turned away as they are likely to end up joining the
marketplace at some point in the future. I think the simplest solution is a simple
filter that could prevent spam
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:42 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:43 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement’s | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | The database is just a product of it being a marketplace - if it prioritized
being a database, the search function would work
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| | | | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:23 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:27 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | In keeping perspective and an appreciation for the work of others, there are
several dedicated members tasked with moderating our forum
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Indeed! They do great work
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:04 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Sylvian has to first approve or decline the message
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In keeping perspective and an appreciation for the work of others, there are
several dedicated members tasked with moderating our forum
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Yep, and they're all (but one ) nice people.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | jgrossman1025 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:25 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | In keeping perspective and an appreciation for the work of others, there are
several dedicated members tasked with moderating our forum
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This is totally true, I think we just need more of them, I don't even understand
how these moderators are selected. I personally go on the forum once or twice
a day, and respond and help if I am first there, which is about 5% of the time
because the other people normally catch it first who do it full time. If you
got lets say ten more people with administrator, who were on twice a day, that
would really help make it so people have the power to reduce spam, and be more
helpful to the forum. Perhaps make becoming an administrator more available for
the not full time sellers who wanna help out. Of course I'd be willing to
help and support any way to make this website better, it's a great website,
and I love being on it.
Thanks, Noah
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:52 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, jgrossman1025 writes:
| | | | In keeping perspective and an appreciation for the work of others, there are
several dedicated members tasked with moderating our forum
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This is totally true, I think we just need more of them, I don't even understand
how these moderators are selected.
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Oh but that's obvious, they've got to sleep!
Personnaly me, I sleep less and less (see the hours I'm posting at), so I
don't fear being a Mod
| | Of course I'd be willing to help and support any way to make this website better, it's a great website, and I love being on it.
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We're all happy you're here participating.
Yes, it's a great website.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:02 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
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I don't fear being a Mod
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 Thanks, now I won’t sleep tonight and will have nightmares for weeks!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:21 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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Personnaly me, I sleep less and less (see the hours I'm posting at), so I
don't fear being a Mod
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You don't. But everyone else does!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:49 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Personnaly me, I sleep less and less (see the hours I'm posting at), so I
don't fear being a Mod
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You don't. But everyone else does!
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What's your name again? yorbrick? Noted - you're second in my list, then.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 00:39 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | Personnaly me, I sleep less and less (see the hours I'm posting at), so I
don't fear being a Mod
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You don't. But everyone else does!
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What's your name again? yorbrick? Noted - you're second in my list, then.
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Only second? I must try harder.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:02 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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Who? Me?
I agree with you above: never chase buyers.
Some of my hugest orders were made by total newbies having a (big) plan.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:07 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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Who? Me?
I agree with you above: never chase buyers.
Some of my hugest orders were made by total newbies having a (big) plan.
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agreed. continuously my highest $ orders are to 0 feedback accounts made just
either the same day or a few days prior. they are a massive benefit to the community
and should not be hindered at all
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:11 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | Not a good idea as that would hurt those who are here for help and would then
be turned away. Maybe just have a list of sites that are allowd and if anyone
posts a message with a link to a site that isn’t on that list Sylvian has to
first approve or decline the message
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Who? Me?
I agree with you above: never chase buyers.
Some of my hugest orders were made by total newbies having a (big) plan.
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agreed. continuously my highest $ orders are to 0 feedback accounts made just
either the same day or a few days prior. they are a massive benefit to the community
and should not be hindered at all
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^ this, thanks to confirm.
People chasing newbs are crazy.
But people chasing Nubs aren't
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:17 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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But people chasing Nubs aren't
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:38 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Actually, that is a great idea.
I would add one other criterion, cannot buy or sell or use the forum until new
member has on positive feedback.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:41 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Actually, that is a great idea.
I would add one other criterion, cannot buy or sell or use the forum until new
member has on positive feedback.
John P
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how do they acquire this one positive feedback then?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Actually, that is a great idea.
I would add one other criterion, cannot buy or sell or use the forum until new
member has on positive feedback.
John P
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how do they acquire this one positive feedback then?
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My fault for the confusion. I misspelled 1.
That should clear things up for everyone.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:44 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | tribulex | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:49 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Actually, that is a great idea.
I would add one other criterion, cannot buy or sell or use the forum until new
member has on positive feedback.
John P
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how do they acquire this one positive feedback then?
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My fault for the confusion. I misspelled 1.
That should clear things up for everyone.
John P
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But that isn't the problem, if you can't buy or sell then you can't
get 1 positive feedback. Total Bricklink lockdown, existing buyers and sellers
only lol
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 13:54 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, tribulex writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
|
Actually, that is a great idea.
I would add one other criterion, cannot buy or sell or use the forum until new
member has on positive feedback.
John P
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how do they acquire this one positive feedback then?
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My fault for the confusion. I misspelled 1.
That should clear things up for everyone.
John P
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But that isn't the problem, if you can't buy or sell then you can't
get 1 positive feedback. Total Bricklink lockdown, existing buyers and sellers
only lol
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i feel like no ones get that he was joking
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:29 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, tribulex writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
|
Actually, that is a great idea.
I would add one other criterion, cannot buy or sell or use the forum until new
member has on positive feedback.
John P
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how do they acquire this one positive feedback then?
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My fault for the confusion. I misspelled 1.
That should clear things up for everyone.
John P
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But that isn't the problem, if you can't buy or sell then you can't
get 1 positive feedback. Total Bricklink lockdown, existing buyers and sellers
only lol
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i feel like no ones get that he was joking
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Thanks
John P
Just a thought, not necessarily about this thread; Sometimes I think the world
takes everything too seriously. I look at everything to find humor in it. If
I may digress a bit. I collect Eaglemoss Star Trek and other things issues by
them. Last year they went bankrupt. A company called Master Replicas bought
all the stock from 8 warehouse around the world, all poorly documented. They
are now releasing some weekly. Quantities are limited on the most desirable
items and it is first come, first served. T MR's prices are fair, not gouged,
and people are emailing them with the most unkind statements calling them a term
more strong that poop because they do not have more of the discontinued items.
But that seems to be the world we live in. More and more people only consider
themselves and everything should be about them, their feelings, and what they
want.
Sorry for digressing a whole bunch.
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| | | Sorry for digressing a whole bunch.
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no worries. Yeah, I agree people take everything to seriously these days. I wish
more people would just take a step back and realize life would be better for
everyone if weren't all stressed out and just has some fun every now and
then but I highly doubt were are going to move in that direction as a society
for at least a couple generations at the very least
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:00 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
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Which problem???
To have a quickly removed single SPAM post some days?
I *far* prefer to get some SPAM, than to lose a buyer because he just registered,
has a $1000 order - and is a bit genuinly afraid - so he asks in Forum
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:34 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, popsicle writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
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Which problem???
To have a quickly removed single SPAM post some days?
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+1
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I *far* prefer to get some SPAM, than to lose a buyer because he just registered,
has a $1000 order - and is a bit genuinly afraid - so he asks in Forum
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Good point
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Yes it is. Getting serious for a brief moment. Have a category for new members
posting in the forum, called........wait for it........New Members and they have
to post in that until they get some feedback, maybe one or two. Then forum users
could ignore that category of posts and the admins would not have to look through
a lot of posts to catch those who are spamming.
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:02 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, legoman77 writes:
| | […]
Yes it is. Getting serious for a brief moment. Have a category for new members
posting in the forum, called........wait for it........New Members and they have
to post in that until they get some feedback, maybe one or two.
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AKA “the paddling pool,” “the sand pit,” “kindergarten,” etc.
| | Then forum users could ignore that category of posts
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Great way to not help the newbies.
“Stay in your sandbox. Don’t bother the real adults who are trying to get a
real conversation about real matters like pizza and mustard.”
| | and the admins would not have to look through a lot of posts to catch those who are spamming.
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They really are not hard to spot, at all.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | […]
Yes it is. Getting serious for a brief moment. Have a category for new members
posting in the forum, called........wait for it........New Members and they have
to post in that until they get some feedback, maybe one or two.
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AKA “the paddling pool,” “the sand pit,” “kindergarten,” etc.
| | Then forum users could ignore that category of posts
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Great way to not help the newbies.
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If they are going to ignore them they were not willing to help anyway. So what?
| | “Stay in your sandbox. Don’t bother the real adults who are trying to get a
real conversation about real matters like pizza and mustard.”
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Those that want to help will always be able not to ignore them.
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| | and the admins would not have to look through a lot of posts to catch those who are spamming.
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Yes, but have you considered most spamming might stop if they see that they could
not post to the main forum. Those that want to help will always be able not
to ignore them.
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They really are not hard to spot, at all.
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I kind of have a hard time following you sometimes.
I also noticed you are not too fond of new ideas. Sort of a Luddite at times.
take care,
John P
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:21 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, legoman77 writes:
| | […]
If they are going to ignore them they were not willing to help anyway. So what?
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Well, I like to think that people help other people when they have the ability
to and are aware the other needs help.
For instance, if someone in the street is holding a map and looking like they’d
welcome help, I like to think someone will stop and try to help them.
That can’t work if tourists are limited to tourists streets.
Loin des yeux, loin du cœur. (Out of sight, out of mind (lit. heart).)
| | […]
Yes, but have you considered most spamming might stop if they see that they could
not post to the main forum.
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Spammers don’t care where they post. They don’t even know there’s topics here
(one would say genuine members don’t know that either ), or they would post
their messages in all the topics at the same time. It’s easy to do.
IOW, they could be way more “efficient” if they cared to.
So not being able to post on the main forum wouldn’t deter them.
Besides, that goes against the argument (which is often raised) that spam doesn’t
look good for BrickLink. Spam frightens the new members, so let’s be sure only
the new members will see spam!
| | […]
I kind of have a hard time following you sometimes.
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You were saying that we, mods, wouldn’t need to look through all the posts to
see if they are spam.
I answered that the spam posts are easy to spot. And members flag them to us
if/when we don’t spot them.
Besides, we do already look through many¹ posts for other reasons than spam.
(¹ If not all. At least between the 6 of us, we should cover most of the posts.)
| | […]
I also noticed you are not too fond of new ideas. Sort of a Luddite at times.
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Well, there’s two things going against me:
1. I act with others’ ideas as I act with mine: I first look at what’s not clear
and what’s wrong. It doesn’t always mean I don’t like the idea.
(Though I don’t like the ones in this thread )
2. The new ideas often aren’t very good nor are they very new
Just count your own posts that contain the feedback joke
Will try
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:39 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, legoman77 writes:
| | […]
If they are going to ignore them they were not willing to help anyway. So what?
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Well, I like to think that people help other people when they have the ability
to and are aware the other needs help.
For instance, if someone in the street is holding a map and looking like they’d
welcome help, I like to think someone will stop and try to help them.
That can’t work if tourists are limited to tourists streets.
Loin des yeux, loin du cœur. (Out of sight, out of mind (lit. heart).)
| | […]
Yes, but have you considered most spamming might stop if they see that they could
not post to the main forum.
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Spammers don’t care where they post. They don’t even know there’s topics here
(one would say genuine members don’t know that either ), or they would post
their messages in all the topics at the same time. It’s easy to do.
IOW, they could be way more “efficient” if they cared to.
So not being able to post on the main forum wouldn’t deter them.
Besides, that goes against the argument (which is often raised) that spam doesn’t
look good for BrickLink. Spam frightens the new members, so let’s be sure only
the new members will see spam!
| | […]
I kind of have a hard time following you sometimes.
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You were saying that we, mods, wouldn’t need to look through all the posts to
see if they are spam.
I answered that the spam posts are easy to spot. And members flag them to us
if/when we don’t spot them.
Besides, we do already look through many¹ posts for other reasons than spam.
(¹ If not all. At least between the 6 of us, we should cover most of the posts.)
| | […]
I also noticed you are not too fond of new ideas. Sort of a Luddite at times.
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Well, there’s two things going against me:
1. I act with others’ ideas as I act with mine: I first look at what’s not clear
and what’s wrong. It doesn’t always mean I don’t like the idea.
(Though I don’t like the ones in this thread )
2. The new ideas often aren’t very good nor are they very new
Just count your own posts that contain the feedback joke
Will try
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You do make good points.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:54 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
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Which problem???
To have a quickly removed single SPAM post some days?
I *far* prefer to get some SPAM, than to lose a buyer because he just registered,
has a $1000 order - and is a bit genuinly afraid - so he asks in Forum
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asks 'which problem???' .. then immediately explains what the problem
is...
*facepalm
would like to know the threshold for this terminology "some spam"...
if a new buyer is wanting to buy $1000 worth of stuff from you, a seller with
over 50,000 Feedback, and that purchase is dependent on if they can post in the
forum...? yeah, ok.... i am sure that scenario pops up more often than the spamming...
you are suggesting that the Forum , likely 50% of the members are sellers , would
let the buyer know your a good seller & they should buy from you...... instead
of them.
likely the new $1000 buyer would get massive other offers lower than your pricing.
irregardless of your feedback or what 'he's a good 'ol boy' status
others give you.
money talks, lowest prices usually win...
but hey... why not allow Spam.. if a little is ok & fun, don't complain when
it gets flooded...
Floods are fun too... right? or is that different...?
it was cool & allowed up until it got.. (wait for it...)... annoying.
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:53 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| For information, there’s quite a few zero-feedback users who contribute to the
site. Just look there: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp
As with other posts about feedback (not receiving enough / receiving the wrong
one), it seems feedback is a main obsession for some members.
Maybe the site should rebrand as “FeedbackLink: the largest online marketplace
to buy and sell feedback, both new or used”?
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 14:59 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | For information, there’s quite a few zero-feedback users who contribute to the
site. Just look there: https://www.bricklink.com/catalogMembers.asp
As with other posts about feedback (not receiving enough / receiving the wrong
one), it seems feedback is a main obsession for some members.
Maybe the site should rebrand as “FeedbackLink: the largest online marketplace
to buy and sell feedback, both new or used”?
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yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
a mirror tells it's own tale...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:04 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
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I’m not a BrickLink employee.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:08 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
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I’m not a BrickLink employee.
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i didn't claim you were an 'employee'
i said 'you work for them..'
which you do. you put in work on this website via being a moderator, whether
you are paid or not.
let's not start slinging accusations we cannot back-up with facts.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:11 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | let's not start slinging accusations we cannot back-up with facts.
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FlatEarthToys is right here.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | let's not start slinging accusations we cannot back-up with facts.
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FlatEarthToys is right here.
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now you have resorted to personal attacks...?
insulting others is completely cool... you should keep going... maybe 1 day you
will get that 'Emotional Response ' you are trying for.
a little cyber-bullying is acceptable... it's no different than 'a little
spam'..
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:19 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
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I’m not a BrickLink employee.
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i didn't claim you were an 'employee'
i said 'you work for them..'
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But not being an employee lets me be free to say when I don’t like what BL does.
There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does.
So, to be clear:
— What BL thinks doesn’t change what I can say.
— I think some people are too focused on feedback here.
— I think requiring a feedback to become a seller is not unreasonable.
— I don’t think using feedback to block or split the forum is a good idea.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:33 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
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I’m not a BrickLink employee.
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i didn't claim you were an 'employee'
i said 'you work for them..'
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But not being an employee lets me be free to say when I don’t like what BL does.
There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does.
So, to be clear:
— What BL thinks doesn’t change what I can say.
— I think some people are too focused on feedback here.
— I think requiring a feedback to become a seller is not unreasonable.
— I don’t think using feedback to block or split the forum is a good idea.
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{agrees he works for BL..}
BL thinks...?
does BL 'think' requiring feedback to sell is the thing to do or is it
a set rule that does not require anything to think upon.?
when does Spamming the forum become "unacceptable"...?
2 times a day, 20 times, 5,000 times...?
would you have the same opinion if new members were spamming at a rate 3x as
fast as you can delete the posts... or 20x ?
if that occured, would the piper break his flute due to Annoyance...?
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:41 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
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{agrees he works for BL..}
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No, I don’t.
You’re just making strawmen after strawmen.
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
{agrees he works for BL..}
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No, I don’t.
You’re just making strawmen after strawmen.
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quote:
"There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and
requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL
and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does."
hmmmm you do understand what 'strawman" means correct?
if you do not 'work' for BL, why would you state there is a difference
between 'working for BL & agreeing with BL"
if you do not 'work for BL' how would you know anything about that aspect
of it....?
-- A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy
of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while
not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. --
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| | | -- A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy
of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while
not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. --
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Now I miss the SPAM messages; at least their ingenuity is fun!
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
{agrees he works for BL..}
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No, I don’t.
You’re just making strawmen after strawmen.
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quote:
"There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and
requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL
and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does."
hmmmm you do understand what 'strawman" means correct?
if you do not 'work' for BL, why would you state there is a difference
between 'working for BL & agreeing with BL"
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Because YOU said I was working for BL and I was intentionally letting that slip
because that’s not the point.
Otherwise:
A = requiring a feedback for sellers
B = requiring a feedback for the forum
You’re mixing A & B. Strawman 1.
C = working for BL
D = agreeing with BL
You’re mixing C & D. Strawman 2.
E = being a moderator
F = being infeudated to BL
You’re mixing E & F. Strawman 3.
I could go on, decomposing “being infeudated” with “being an employee” and “working
for” and “working with,” or with your conflating “BL does A” with “agreeing with
A”….
The real point is that, whatever my status, whatever some other rules for other
parts of the site, I don’t think feedback should be required to post on the forum.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:36 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | | | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
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{agrees he works for BL..}
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No, I don’t.
You’re just making strawmen after strawmen.
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quote:
"There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and
requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL
and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does."
hmmmm you do understand what 'strawman" means correct?
if you do not 'work' for BL, why would you state there is a difference
between 'working for BL & agreeing with BL"
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Because YOU said I was working for BL and I was intentionally letting that slip
because that’s not the point.
Otherwise:
A = requiring a feedback for sellers
B = requiring a feedback for the forum
You’re mixing A & B. Strawman 1.
C = working for BL
D = agreeing with BL
You’re mixing C & D. Strawman 2.
E = being a moderator
F = being infeudated to BL
You’re mixing E & F. Strawman 3.
I could go on, decomposing “being infeudated” with “being an employee” and “working
for” and “working with,” or with your conflating “BL does A” with “agreeing with
A”….
The real point is that, whatever my status, whatever some other rules for other
parts of the site, I don’t think feedback should be required to post on the forum.
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being an Online Forum moderator is a Profession.
whether you are paid or not by the website that runs said Forum.
Moderating is Work.
you are moderating this Forum for BL.
you are voluntarily doing this work for BL.
regardless of if BL pays you, registers you as an employee, recognizes you with
a title, or allows you to control their forum.. you are working for this website.
you claimed there was a difference between "working for BL & agreeing with
BL"...
maybe you can detail this difference.
i understand the "not agreeing with everything BL" part, but i am interested
in your knowledge of the 'working for' aspect...? i mean , since you
claim you are not an employee nor do you work for BL.. i am curious how you would
have any sort of perspective on that attribute.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 17:25 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | The real point is that, whatever my status, whatever some other rules for other
parts of the site, I don’t think feedback should be required to post on the forum.
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Same here, reporting spàm is quick and easy anyway and forum mods are pretty
quick once it is reported. And if the default was set to hide cancelled messages,
then they shouldn't be a problem. It's been so long I cannot remember
what the default is.
Mind you, concerning feedback, maybe all users should have to have positive feedback
before being able to post to forum, buy or sell.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:07 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | The real point is that, whatever my status, whatever some other rules for other
parts of the site, I don’t think feedback should be required to post on the forum.
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Same here, reporting spàm is quick and easy anyway and forum mods are pretty
quick once it is reported. And if the default was set to hide cancelled messages,
then they shouldn't be a problem. It's been so long I cannot remember
what the default is.
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Cancelled messages are hidden to unlogged users and, AFAIK, the option should
be on (= hiding) by default.
| | Mind you, concerning feedback, maybe all users should have to have positive feedback
before being able to post to forum, buy or sell.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 03:15 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Same here, reporting spàm is quick and easy anyway and forum mods are pretty
quick once it is reported. And if the default was set to hide cancelled messages,
then they shouldn't be a problem. It's been so long I cannot remember
what the default is.
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Cancelled messages are hidden to unlogged users and, AFAIK, the option should
be on (= hiding) by default.
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I thought it might be the default, I know I have it set.
I really don't understand why people feel the need to respond to spam messages.
If they are reported, they disappear quite quickly if users opt for / keep the
default to hide cancelled messages. If they are responded to, the response often
remains even after someone else has reported it. So the spam quickly disappears
but the response keeping the same spam title remains. The responses remain visible
longer than the original spam.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | | | | | Same here, reporting spàm is quick and easy anyway and forum mods are pretty
quick once it is reported. And if the default was set to hide cancelled messages,
then they shouldn't be a problem. It's been so long I cannot remember
what the default is.
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Cancelled messages are hidden to unlogged users and, AFAIK, the option should
be on (= hiding) by default.
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I thought it might be the default, I know I have it set.
I really don't understand why people feel the need to respond to spam messages.
If they are reported, they disappear quite quickly if users opt for / keep the
default to hide cancelled messages. If they are responded to, the response often
remains even after someone else has reported it. So the spam quickly disappears
but the response keeping the same spam title remains. The responses remain visible
longer than the original spam.
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Sorry  sometimes it’s to much fun to resist
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Tracyd | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:43 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
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yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
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I’m not a BrickLink employee.
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i didn't claim you were an 'employee'
i said 'you work for them..'
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But not being an employee lets me be free to say when I don’t like what BL does.
There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does.
So, to be clear:
— What BL thinks doesn’t change what I can say.
— I think some people are too focused on feedback here.
— I think requiring a feedback to become a seller is not unreasonable.
— I don’t think using feedback to block or split the forum is a good idea.
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{agrees he works for BL..}
BL thinks...?
does BL 'think' requiring feedback to sell is the thing to do or is it
a set rule that does not require anything to think upon.?
when does Spamming the forum become "unacceptable"...?
2 times a day, 20 times, 5,000 times...?
would you have the same opinion if new members were spamming at a rate 3x as
fast as you can delete the posts... or 20x ?
if that occured, would the piper break his flute due to Annoyance...?
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OK, honestly how often is the Spam happening. I am not seeing it very often.
It is obviously spam so just ignore it. If it was coming in once an hour, then
it needs to be addressed. every 2 hours? yes it should be addressed. 1 a day,
it's annoying but not really impacting anyone.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:01 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | OK, honestly how often is the Spam happening. I am not seeing it very often.
It is obviously spam so just ignore it. If it was coming in once an hour, then
it needs to be addressed. every 2 hours? yes it should be addressed. 1 a day,
it's annoying but not really impacting anyone.
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once to twice a day about (or maybe per 12 hours as I'm not sure what each
cancelled post is from when I'm sleeping). most posts get deleted within
a few minutes and they usually get reported within 5 minuets if they aren't
deleted before then. its not anything crazy
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:47 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | […]
yet, you work for the company that requires positive feedback in order to sell....
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I’m not a BrickLink employee.
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i didn't claim you were an 'employee'
i said 'you work for them..'
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But not being an employee lets me be free to say when I don’t like what BL does.
There’s already a stretch between requirements to become a seller and requirments
to post on the forum but there’s a whole another one between working for BL and
agreeing wholeheartedly with everything BL does.
So, to be clear:
— What BL thinks doesn’t change what I can say.
— I think some people are too focused on feedback here.
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One cannot be too focused on feedback. It is a resume that should be looked
at keenly to decide to hire someone to sell and send bricks to the buyer. I
buy a lot on eBay and the feedback is so important and it is much more detailed
than what is allowed here. Focused like a laser has saved me a lot of money
and frustration. I wish BL would have a system like eBay except for the part
where you cannot leave feedback for buyers except positive.
John P
| | — I think requiring a feedback to become a seller is not unreasonable.
— I don’t think using feedback to block or split the forum is a good idea.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:03 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
Oh yeah - this Admin who's ZERO feedback, how is this *even* possible?
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
Oh yeah - this Admin who's ZERO feedback, how is this *even* possible?
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I was thinking the same thing about how the admin has no feedback and was going
to post it but was to lazy
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:06 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
Oh yeah - this Admin who's ZERO feedback, how is this *even* possible?
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The Admin accound doesn’t have zero feedback, it has no feedback (no number between
parentheses)
Look deeper for real zero-feedback users in those lists. Not hard to do, just
Ctrl-F (0).
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 25 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | I don't know, but this guy needs to buy something already... all he does
is add stuff to the catalog!
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Variations, mold uncertainities, undistinguishable colors... just to add to the
confusion!
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| | | | | Author: | ghyde | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:14 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Gets on soapbox.
How's this for a silly and unrealistic requirement:
Require newly registered accounts to DM Sylvain_LS with a sample of their intended
forum post before they are allowed to post on the forums.
Sylvain's inbox would fill up quickly!
Gets off soapbox.
Since people seem to be randomly thinking up silly and unrealistic requirements,
we may as well try to get as many as we can in one thread.
Cheers ...
ghyde
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:16 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 21 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ghyde writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Gets on soapbox.
How's this for a silly and unrealistic requirement:
Require newly registered accounts to DM Sylvain_LS with a sample of their intended
forum post before they are allowed to post on the forums.
Sylvain's inbox would fill up quickly!
Gets off soapbox.
Since people seem to be randomly thinking up silly and unrealistic requirements,
we may as well try to get as many as we can in one thread.
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and each new poster must then once they get approval from Sylvain then place
a .01 order at 1001bricks so we can slowly drive him crazy in order to get their
1 feedback!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:20 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Since people seem to be randomly thinking up silly and unrealistic requirements,
we may as well try to get as many as we can in one thread.
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and each new poster must then once they get approval from Sylvain then place
a .01 order at 1001bricks so we can slowly drive him crazy in order to get their
1 feedback!
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Thanks Jason!
As agreed privately (during our vid conference you, me and chatGPT), I'll
send you 50% of this fructful business!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:21 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | Since people seem to be randomly thinking up silly and unrealistic requirements,
we may as well try to get as many as we can in one thread.
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and each new poster must then once they get approval from Sylvain then place
a .01 order at 1001bricks so we can slowly drive him crazy in order to get their
1 feedback!
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Thanks Jason!
As agreed privately (during our vid conference you, me and chatGPT), I'll
send you 50% of this fructful business!
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:21 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ghyde writes:
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Require newly registered accounts to DM Sylvain_LS with a sample of their intended
forum post before they are allowed to post on the forums.
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As for https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1415826 , I’m happy to not be
this Sylvain_LS you’re talking about
More seriously, as was already remarked, and without meaning I agree with your
proposition, we are 6 discussions moderators.
I’m just the one with the biggest mouth
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 16:23 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, ghyde writes:
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Require newly registered accounts to DM Sylvain_LS with a sample of their intended
forum post before they are allowed to post on the forums.
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As for https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1415826 , I’m happy to not be
this Sylvain_LS you’re talking about
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| | | | | Author: | LeeGo73 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 17:29 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Give users the option to suppress/hide messages from accounts with zero feedback
and less than a week old.
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 17:39 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, LeeGo73 writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Give users the option to suppress/hide messages from accounts with zero feedback
and less than a week old.
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idea factory in motion..
you guys just needed .... inspiration..
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 17:46 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | maybe create this forum topic and they can choose it? |
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | maybe create this forum topic and they can choose it?
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First post:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:53 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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At some point I get lost in what is going on and just cannot keep track. You
did start a thread that brought out a lot of good ideas for and against. I also
like the drama of everyone mad at everyone else. That is why I watch Judge Judy.
It would really be nice to start a video forum where he would see the people
fighting with each other.
John P
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 00:49 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, legoman77 writes:
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At some point I get lost in what is going on and just cannot keep track. You
did start a thread that brought out a lot of good ideas for and against. I also
like the drama of everyone mad at everyone else. That is why I watch Judge Judy.
It would really be nice to start a video forum where he would see the people
fighting with each other.
John P
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no emotions on this end, just simple conversations about a topic. i do realize
some were attempting to envoke feelings by displaying personal attacks.. i can
only assume a cat cornered does whatever it takes to try to 'win' & to
some, life outside of online forums might be boring to deal with.
a symantics battle over defining what "work" is seems to have sidelined
things. but it's not like a guy who *cough* 'rings up hamburgers at a
restaurant' is likely to agree with anyone who is suggesting to have a backyard
cookout instead..... because then he'd have nothing else to do that is considered
.... work.
other members had great ideas as well regarding the issue... & obviously it is
an issue that a percentage of users agree needs to be addressed somehow. while
a few mocked the ideas of others .. because -- Forum
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| | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Gummy spam is ultimately not very harmful.
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| | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:26 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Gummy spam is ultimately not very harmful.
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i wold say 100% not 'harmful', but 80% annoying..
consider this everyone who reads this:
i just logged into the main Community Forum page . just now..
& out of the top 100 most recent posts. 9 are from brand new members with a Zero
feedback, & all 9 have been cancelled.
there is not a single legit Forum post out of the current most recent 100 posts
from a member with Zero feedback.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:33 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | i just logged into the main Community Forum page . just now..
& out of the top 100 most recent posts. 9 are from brand new members with a Zero
feedback, & all 9 have been cancelled.
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I don't see ANY Cancelled message.
Check this option, it's very nice!
| | there is not a single legit Forum post out of the current most recent 100 posts
from a member with Zero feedback.
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Maybe you should see a specialist for your eyes?
2 hours ago:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1416053
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:36 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | i just logged into the main Community Forum page . just now..
& out of the top 100 most recent posts. 9 are from brand new members with a Zero
feedback, & all 9 have been cancelled.
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I don't see ANY Cancelled message.
Check this option, it's very nice!
| | there is not a single legit Forum post out of the current most recent 100 posts
from a member with Zero feedback.
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Maybe you should see a specialist for your eyes?
2 hours ago:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1416053
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just corrected that actually, he was hiding in the new batch cluster..
i do have 1 bad eye, but it is scarred & unfixable, but thanks for the continued
personal attacks...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:46 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | i do have 1 bad eye, but it is scarred & unfixable, but thanks for the continued
personal attacks...
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can they be personal attacks if he doesn't know you have an issue with your
eye and just so happened to be using a common phrase like getting ones eyes checked?
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Yes 
But I've got my eye on you, Nubs my friend!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | | | i do have 1 bad eye, but it is scarred & unfixable, but thanks for the continued
personal attacks...
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can they be personal attacks if he doesn't know you have an issue with your
eye and just so happened to be using a common phrase like getting ones eyes checked?
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Yes
But I've got my eye on you, Nubs my friend!
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confirmed! 1001 only has 1 eye! he's a cyclops!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:58 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | can they be personal attacks if he doesn't know you have an issue with your
eye and just so happened to be using a common phrase like getting ones eyes checked?
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Yes
But I've got my eye on you, Nubs my friend!
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confirmed! 1001 only has 1 eye! he's a cyclops!
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Note:
* Cyclopes’ eyes are huge.
* The Cyclops’s eye is huge.
Learn grammar every day...
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:59 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 20 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | can they be personal attacks if he doesn't know you have an issue with your
eye and just so happened to be using a common phrase like getting ones eyes checked?
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Yes
But I've got my eye on you, Nubs my friend!
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confirmed! 1001 only has 1 eye! he's a cyclops!
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Note:
* Cyclopes’ eyes are huge.
* The Cyclops’s eye is huge.
Learn grammar every day...
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note there are to many cyclops
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:01 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | can they be personal attacks if he doesn't know you have an issue with your
eye and just so happened to be using a common phrase like getting ones eyes checked?
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Yes
But I've got my eye on you, Nubs my friend!
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confirmed! 1001 only has 1 eye! he's a cyclops!
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Note:
* Cyclopes’ eyes are huge.
* The Cyclops’s eye is huge.
Learn grammar every day...
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note there are to many cyclops
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too*
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:17 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | note there are to many cyclops
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too*
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:44 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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I don't see ANY Cancelled message.
Check this option, it's very nice!
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Must be nice
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, renhoffman writes:
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I don't see ANY Cancelled message.
Check this option, it's very nice!
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Must be nice
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This one, as Darren pretends not knowing anything about it
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | renhoffman | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:50 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | In General, renhoffman writes:
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I don't see ANY Cancelled message.
Check this option, it's very nice!
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Must be nice
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This one, as Darren pretends not knowing anything about it
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Lol, I know it, I'm just jealous, since I can't use it.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:34 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In General, axaday writes:
| | In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
-- require members to at least have 1 buyer feedback in order to be able
to post in the forums. --
if new members have a question they can contact Bricklink directly via PM , otherwise
they can not post new feeds in the forum.
otherwise if members are going to spam the forum with gummie ads, they at least
have had to bought something 1st.
a simple 'Pay-To-Play' criteria
thoughts...?
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Gummy spam is ultimately not very harmful.
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i wold say 100% not 'harmful', but 80% annoying..
consider this everyone who reads this:
i just logged into the main Community Forum page . just now..
& out of the top 100 most recent posts. 9 are from brand new members with a Zero
feedback, & all 9 have been cancelled.
there is not a single legit Forum post out of the current most recent 100 posts
from a member with Zero feedback.
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i will correct myself.
i missed Eddie2134's fatal error 1..
thank you Eddie2134.. for not spamming..
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | Gummy spam is ultimately not very harmful.
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i wold say 100% not 'harmful', but 80% annoying..
consider this everyone who reads this:
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Also consider this:
* maybe 1% of BrickLink members read Forum - from time to time,
* maybe a few of percents of this 1% post there - occasionnaly - and mostly for
promoting Sales.
In short, there's a small public here.
1 SPAM per day won't change anything.
But 1 person ruled out not being allowed to post would be a important LOSS (relatively
to above).
Again, no.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:08 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | | | Gummy spam is ultimately not very harmful.
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i wold say 100% not 'harmful', but 80% annoying..
consider this everyone who reads this:
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Also consider this:
* maybe 1% of BrickLink members read Forum - from time to time,
* maybe a few of percents of this 1% post there - occasionnaly - and mostly for
promoting Sales.
In short, there's a small public here.
1 SPAM per day won't change anything.
But 1 person ruled out not being allowed to post would be a important LOSS (relatively
to above).
Again, no.
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where are you generating this "1 Spam per day" figure from....???
going back 24 hours i count 10 cancelled posts from Zero Feedback members..
Not 1...
& that's with 1 good eye,,,
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| | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:31 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:42 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, UTLF writes:
| | the fact people here are defending the spam is ridiculous, maybe we deserve it
after all....
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There’s a difference between defending zero-feedback members and defending the
spam
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:44 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | the fact people here are defending the spam is ridiculous, maybe we deserve it
after all....
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There’s a difference between defending zero-feedback members and defending the
spam
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+1 for the most part (if not entirely) we agree that it would be better if there
was no spam but we don't agree on the severity of the spam or on what possible
solutions could be.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | here4bricks614 | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 18:55 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, UTLF writes:
| | the fact people here are defending the spam is ridiculous, maybe we deserve it
after all....
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There’s a difference between defending zero-feedback members and defending the
spam
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+1 for the most part (if not entirely) we agree that it would be better if there
was no spam but we don't agree on the severity of the spam or on what possible
solutions could be.
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The forum has seen better days. This is not one of them.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 19:06 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, here4bricks614 writes:
| | The forum has seen better days. This is not one of them.
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Agreed!
John P
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | UTLF | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 19:53 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 19:58 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I must ask tho what so bad about the idea of if its a 0 feedback user who posts
a message the system checks the URLs that may be included and if they aren't
on a list of "approved" sites it then either prevents them from posting
their message or then lets them think they posted it but nothing actually happens.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 22:08 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | Having spam bots run wild day in and day out doesn't help anyone, and it
creates more unnecessary work for the forum moderators
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But they sleep all day long!
| | When push comes to shove, you have to make a decision that will positively benefit
the majority
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Uh? Which one?
| | Rarely have I seen actual "I need help" posts from zero-feedback people
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In fact, I've seen more of those than actual SPAMs.
Sure I'm not here "permanently", so they may already be cancelled
when I read.
| | I think the repeat customers & sellers (the people who have been loyal to the
site & help keep it going) should be considered more than zero feedback users
when it comes to the forum specifically
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Forum will die if no younger users come.
If they can be moderated (just as until now), I don't care about seeing some
SPAMs from time to time.
I prefer a guilty staying free than an innocent to rot in jail; newbies shouldn't
pay the price for the bots.
And I'm sure BrickLink DOES something, please be sure they didn't wait
for you to have ideas and implement the measures they've decided to be adequate.
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| | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Aug 1, 2023 00:16 | | Subject: | Re: Pay-To-Play Forum Requirement | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | possibly an easy solution to this McGraw problem...
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Taylor Swift?
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