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| | | Author: | Leftoverbricks  | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 11:40 | | Subject: | sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 251 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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| | | | | Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 11:42 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 70 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Desired option would be to exclude buyers from a specific country to buy from
me below a certain threshold.
In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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| | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 11:45 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| And, you get an extra invoice paper provided by BL regarding the customs don't
you?
Put that in a see-through zipper and you'r good to go  !
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| | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| You could add a statement in your terms that says when ordered from the UK, there
will be a fee of XXX for covering the extra handling costs.
Don't know how often you have UK customers, but the manual handling effort
is still little IMO.
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| | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 11:56 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 63 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| This paperwork and on-line form filling stops me selling outside the U.K. in
the future.
However the need to register for packing recycling in Germany was the initial
reason I questioned European sales, a policy I expect the rest of the E.U. will
adopt eventually.
Understand your reasoning, hope all goes well.
In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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| | | | | | | Author: | Cob | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 09:50 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | | However the need to register for packing recycling in Germany was the initial
reason I questioned European sales, a policy I expect the rest of the E.U. will
adopt eventually.
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Last I checked this only applied to entities registered as a corporation. Does
this apply to individuals?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:45 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Cob writes:
| | | | However the need to register for packing recycling in Germany was the initial
reason I questioned European sales, a policy I expect the rest of the E.U. will
adopt eventually.
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Last I checked this only applied to entities registered as a corporation. Does
this apply to individuals?
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eBay, at least, takes the position that it applies to all B2C transactions. Now
I don't know whether a seller has to register as a corporation to be considered
a "business".
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:59 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, peregrinator writes:
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Now
I don't know whether a seller has to register as a corporation to be considered
a "business".
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That’s the usual problem: some like to hide behind “I’m not incorporated” / “I’m
not registered.”
So other criteria are used: buying to resell, number of transactions, gross income….
But all that is local / can only be verified locally.
So, for importations, the rule is simplified to: if it’s not a gift (below such
amount) then it’s business.
(Otherwise, if I were country X, I would say: all the businesses that export
aren’t considered businesses by country X, so they aren’t businesses for any
other country either!)
That being said, I don’t know how the package tax works….
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Dino | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:46 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, peregrinator writes:
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Now
I don't know whether a seller has to register as a corporation to be considered
a "business".
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That’s the usual problem: some like to hide behind “I’m not incorporated” / “I’m
not registered.”
So other criteria are used: buying to resell, number of transactions, gross income….
But all that is local / can only be verified locally.
So, for importations, the rule is simplified to: if it’s not a gift (below such
amount) then it’s business.
(Otherwise, if I were country X, I would say: all the businesses that export
aren’t considered businesses by country X, so they aren’t businesses for any
other country either!)
That being said, I don’t know how the package tax works….
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Since January, the Germans have a new law. The "Platform Tax Transparency
Act". It obliges online sales platforms to report all sellers who have either
made more than 30 sales or earned more than 2,000 euros a year. The report is
made in January of the following year. So for the first time in 2024.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 08:30 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Dino writes:
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Since January, the Germans have a new law. The "Platform Tax Transparency
Act". It obliges online sales platforms to report all sellers who have either
made more than 30 sales or earned more than 2,000 euros a year. The report is
made in January of the following year. So for the first time in 2024.
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That didn’t ring any bell, so I looked: it’s DAC-7 (directive 2021/514), it’s
not only Germany, it’s all EU (same thresholds everywhere).
It didn’t ring a bell because I hadn’t realized there was a lower threshold (number
of sales &/or amount) for DAC-7, but BrickLink already communicated that they
were compliant for new sellers and were about to be for all sellers: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1383573
Now, it’s about taxes, it’s not about when you’re considered a business or not
for other laws.
BTW, the packaging tax/levy comes from an EU directive too (2018/852) but Germany
seems to be the only country to have efficiently implemented it so far.
“Efficiently” in terms of publicity and enforcement.
(UK should have one too.)
France seems to have something similar (registering, paying a flat levy of €80/year
for small “producers” (including online retail)) but the sites have a 1995 look
and are all in French and incomprehensible (the German sites are available in
English, with infographics and videos…) and nobody cares. It seems France don’t
want the money….
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| | | | | Author: | 129samot | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 12:04 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 64 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| create a new shipping method for the UK only
there you can set a minimum order amount
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| | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 12:09 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 62 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 129samot writes:
| | create a new shipping method for the UK only
there you can set a minimum order amount
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+1
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SezaR | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:12 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | In Selling, 129samot writes:
| | create a new shipping method for the UK only
there you can set a minimum order amount
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+1
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+π
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| | | | | | | Author: | StarBrick | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 12:46 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| indeed!
+1
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| | | | | | | Author: | Emporiosa | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 12:59 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 69 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, 129samot writes:
| | create a new shipping method for the UK only
there you can set a minimum order amount
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(I'm not sure if totally manual stores somehow work properly for this, and
if so, then OP might be ok). But for at least IC enabled (with backup method
enabled as well), it does not work properly.
For an example, assume the store has an overall min. of $5 and the UK specific
one is $10.
A UK buyer who puts in an $8 order will not hit the UK specific option, but is
still allowed to checkout as it's over the store minimum, and will trigger
the backup manual method.
I had this happen in the past when I had IC enabled but had the backup manual
option enabled. Just not sure for 100% manual stores if it works.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 13:01 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| A possible workaround could be to have an all countries shipping option excluding
the one country and have it manual invoice and have 0 restrictions
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 18:43 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Nubs_Select writes:
| | A possible workaround could be to have an all countries shipping option excluding
the one country and have it manual invoice and have 0 restrictions
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Or just don't have IC for the UK?
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| | | | | Author: | EmblaRonja | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 13:51 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I still think that minimum buy is the way to go. Where else on the internet can
you buy for 59 cents and expecting the shop to handle your order?
With that said - sometimes I’m asked to sell under the minimum buy and I always
accept BUT tells my buyer that it comes with an additional 1 euro handling fee.
Just struggle as it is to get some small euros in return for all hours working
at my Legoland, can’t imagine how you stores survive with cents orders??
/Niclas
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| | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 14:55 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 71 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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Politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE'S FAVORITE
do we just have to stick to bashing UK voters or can we expand it out to other
countries like Mongolia & Nicaragua as well...?
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jun 15, 2023 15:33 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I’d like to post a couple of cartoons that portray the differences representing
both sides but they might start a political debate that would be deleted. 
In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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Politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE'S FAVORITE
do we just have to stick to bashing UK voters or can we expand it out to other
countries like Mongolia & Nicaragua as well...?
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| | | | | | | Author: | rtzx9r | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 10:49 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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Politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE'S FAVORITE
do we just have to stick to bashing UK voters or can we expand it out to other
countries like Mongolia & Nicaragua as well...?
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USA USA USA please
Just kidding I don’t want to mix bricks and governments.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | PlanetEarthToys | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 17:14 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, rtzx9r writes:
| | In Selling, PlanetEarthToys writes:
| | In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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Politics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE'S FAVORITE
do we just have to stick to bashing UK voters or can we expand it out to other
countries like Mongolia & Nicaragua as well...?
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USA USA USA please
Just kidding I don’t want to mix bricks and governments.
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but FOMO...
can we at least discuss when we should all vote to shut down the illegal Mayonnaise
trade going on between Iceland & Madagascar via The Atlantic Condiment Corridor....?
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| | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Jun 16, 2023 19:55 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 66 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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Just think how the British colonists felt.
John P
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| | | | | Author: | Stacey_Love | | Posted: | Jun 17, 2023 11:52 | | Subject: | Re: sick and tired about selling to England | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | I have no minimum order amount in my shop. I compensate for (very) small orders
by adjusting my shipping price.
However: shipping small orders to the UK requires filling in custom forms and
for an order of 59 cents I do not want to do that. Currently there's no way
to tweak your shipping options to exclude the minimum order amount for specific
countries.
Therefore I have decided to completely stop shipping to England unless I'm
allowed to add a handling cost for England.
Personal note: the Brits who voted for secession should know that this is one
of the consequences....
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Just don’t bother selling to england. Much easier, little loss, eu much bigger
market.
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Netherlands, Overijssel
United Kingdom, England
USA, Missouri
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Luxembourg
Canada, Ontario
Sweden, Västra Götaland
