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 Author: tec View Messages Posted By tec
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 Subject: moulding ips and fake beams
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tec (61)

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Can we tell a fake by where a moulding pip lays?

These beams i bought have a pip placed between holes, instead of laying on the
side as in current beams (pic 2 is reference).
I never seen these moulds before.
Absence of (C)
Absence of Lego

what u think?
 


 Author: randyipp View Messages Posted By randyipp
 Posted: Jun 5, 2023 09:54
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In Help, tec writes:
  Can we tell a fake by where a moulding pip lays?

These beams i bought have a pip placed between holes, instead of laying on the
side as in current beams (pic 2 is reference).
I never seen these moulds before.
Absence of (C)
Absence of Lego

what u think?

I don't think the pip can be used definitively in parts that are still in
production as they may have changed. I think it is the first indicator to make
you suspect a clone part though as the pip locations seems to rarely change.

In these cases you can usually determine fake part by closely examining the details
of the items, particularly with a loupe. The rounded edges are usually the biggest
giveaway of clone parts that seem close but lack that attention to detail Lego
is famous for.
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 Posted: Jun 5, 2023 10:02
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thanks randyipp

on rounded egdes: the 2 rounded ends (left and right) are ok, smooth. the round
holes for pins are less quality, or used a lot, hard to say. Pins slide in with
ease.

are there other details to check?

In Help, randyipp writes:
  In Help, tec writes:
  Can we tell a fake by where a moulding pip lays?

These beams i bought have a pip placed between holes, instead of laying on the
side as in current beams (pic 2 is reference).
I never seen these moulds before.
Absence of (C)
Absence of Lego

what u think?

I don't think the pip can be used definitively in parts that are still in
production as they may have changed. I think it is the first indicator to make
you suspect a clone part though as the pip locations seems to rarely change.

In these cases you can usually determine fake part by closely examining the details
of the items, particularly with a loupe. The rounded edges are usually the biggest
giveaway of clone parts that seem close but lack that attention to detail Lego
is famous for.
 Author: tec View Messages Posted By tec
 Posted: Jun 5, 2023 13:01
 Subject: Re: moulding pip... fake beams ?
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new details, more problems:

pic1. reference is on top. the suspicious item:
- has pip between hole 4 and 5 (as said in post1)
- has narrower gorges, walls quasi-touching
- is a little darker than normal blue

pic2. under incident light, the suspicious item
- has 4 new ridges on side. could this give away its moulding process?
In backgroud the reference beam is total smooth but you also find the pip there,
as said in post1.

still legit or worse?
 


 Author: randyf View Messages Posted By randyf
 Posted: Jun 5, 2023 14:34
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In Help, tec writes:
  new details, more problems:

pic1. reference is on top. the suspicious item:
- has pip between hole 4 and 5 (as said in post1)
- has narrower gorges, walls quasi-touching
- is a little darker than normal blue

pic2. under incident light, the suspicious item
- has 4 new ridges on side. could this give away its moulding process?
In backgroud the reference beam is total smooth but you also find the pip there,
as said in post1.

still legit or worse?


Those are not LEGO Technic beams.

Cheers,
Randy
 Author: tec View Messages Posted By tec
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Thanks Randyf