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 Author: Taz21 View Messages Posted By Taz21
 Posted: May 29, 2023 18:42
 Subject: Shipping regular mail no tracking
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Taz21 (369)

Location:  USA, Texas
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A seller i recently bought 2 high dollar figs from says this how he shipped.
Question is does any ine else use this method? I wont just seems odd to me. And
he says its approved brick link method.
 Author: Cob View Messages Posted By Cob
 Posted: May 29, 2023 20:16
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Cob (3565)

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In Shipping, Taz21 writes:
  A seller i recently bought 2 high dollar figs from says this how he shipped.
Question is does any ine else use this method? I wont just seems odd to me. And
he says its approved brick link method.

Most ship with a tracking number as it provides proof of delivery. PayPal and
Stripe require this proof to fight buyer no shipping claims.
At times I offer a no tracking option for low value orders.
 Author: rab1234 View Messages Posted By rab1234
 Posted: May 29, 2023 21:48
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rab1234 (1946)

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He can ship however he wants, but will lose any claim made against him.

In Shipping, Taz21 writes:
  A seller i recently bought 2 high dollar figs from says this how he shipped.
Question is does any ine else use this method? I wont just seems odd to me. And
he says its approved brick link method.
 Author: CPgolfaddict View Messages Posted By CPgolfaddict
 Posted: May 29, 2023 23:15
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CPgolfaddict (6594)

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It depends on what 'regular mail' means. I recommend asking the seller
for details.

If the seller is in the US, the USPS First class letter and large envelope rates
do not have tracking... even with printed postage labels (e.g. stamps.com).
A letter/paper envelope with no padding could be a disaster for shipping figs.
Sorting machines are likely to chew up the figs.
saw 'regular mail' a paper envelope letter was my first thought.

But last I heard, the USPS will also accept a USPS first class package (e.g.
a bubble mailer) with enough stamps on it to cover the retail package rate.
But there won't be tracking.

All of the above are domestic "USPS First Class" variants. For international,
there are a few other variables.

PS: I don't think BrickLink has ever approved, or forbidden any shipping
methods. Perhaps something has been lost in translation. I'd say bubble
mailers are generally accepted by BL buyers and sellers for small parts and fig
orders. But that isn't what 'BrickLink approved' means.

I hope it all works out for you.

In Shipping, Taz21 writes:
  A seller i recently bought 2 high dollar figs from says this how he shipped.
Question is does any ine else use this method? I wont just seems odd to me. And
he says its approved brick link method.
 Author: Shiny_Stuff View Messages Posted By Shiny_Stuff
 Posted: May 30, 2023 00:29
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In Shipping, Taz21 writes:
  A seller i recently bought 2 high dollar figs from says this how he shipped.
Question is does any ine else use this method? I wont just seems odd to me. And
he says its approved brick link method.

I don't believe there is any such thing as a "BrickLink Approved"
Shipping Method, for one thing. Nor do I believe it is commonly acceptable to
ship minifigs as regular mail with only first-class postage in plain envelope.
It is definitely NOT a good idea to send high dollar items this way.

Having said all of this, let me say that as a seller, I send several orders each
month using plain paper envelopes to save my buyers money. But only for orders
containing a small number of tiles or plates or other thin parts.

Most of the plain paper envelopes I send must be marked as NON-MACHINABLE and
include regular postage plus the Non-Machinable surcharge postage, currently
priced at $1.03 for one ounce and higher rates for 2 ounces and 3 ounces.

Even so, there is a maximum thickness for Non-Machinable and minifig heads exceed
that.


Postal Mail Manual, Part 600, section 3.3:

3.3 Odd-Shaped Items in Paper Envelopes
Pens, pencils, key rings, bottle caps, and other similar odd-shaped items are
not permitted in letter-size or flat-size paper envelopes unless they are wrapped
within the other contents of the envelope to streamline the shape of the mailpiece
and prevent damage during postal processing. If an odd-shaped item is not properly
wrapped, it could burst through the envelope and cause injury to employees and
damage to USPS processing equipment. Odd-shaped items that are properly wrapped
within paper envelopes and sent at letter prices may be subject to the nonmachinable
surcharge under 133.1.5 or 233.1.4 for First-Class Mail letters, or the nonmachinable
prices under 243.5.5 for USPS Marketing Mail letters. Certain types of odd-shaped
items, when properly wrapped, are permitted as automation letter-size mail subject
to the standards in 201.3.10. Flat-size automation mail is subject to the uniform
thickness requirement in 101.2.4.
https://pe.usps.com/text/DMM300/601.htm#ep1196660
 
 Author: Gaston.La.Brick View Messages Posted By Gaston.La.Brick
 Posted: May 30, 2023 03:00
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Gaston.La.Brick (1841)

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   Nor do I believe it is commonly acceptable to
ship minifigs as regular mail with only first-class postage in plain envelope.
It is definitely NOT a good idea to send high dollar items this way.

One small remarks:
- What's considered "high dollar"?

One larger remark:
- Regular mail can be shipped as padded envelope or letterbox (it's actually
a small, sturdy carton box that's max 3 cm thick). I use it all the time
as sending as untracked medium, for items op to 30 USD (which is my own limit
of "high dollar" )
 Author: enig View Messages Posted By enig
 Posted: May 30, 2023 05:52
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enig (6336)

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In Shipping, Gaston.La.Brick writes:
  
   Nor do I believe it is commonly acceptable to
ship minifigs as regular mail with only first-class postage in plain envelope.
It is definitely NOT a good idea to send high dollar items this way.

One small remarks:
- What's considered "high dollar"?

One larger remark:
- Regular mail can be shipped as padded envelope or letterbox (it's actually
a small, sturdy carton box that's max 3 cm thick). I use it all the time
as sending as untracked medium, for items op to 30 USD (which is my own limit
of "high dollar" )

To the list of remarks I'd add - what is considered 'properly wrapped'?

As for a letter/letterbox - the definitions of what constitutes what differ from
country to country. A few years back Lithuanian post was calling a 'letter'
anything and everything that is less than 2kg and does not exceed L+W+H of 90cm.
Then they changed everything and 'letters' were only up to 2.4cm in thickness,
then a year later they changed everything again.

And now after a THIRD price increase within a few months period - we sometimes
find a door-to-door courier delivery to be cheaper than sending a package via
post.
 Author: Taz21 View Messages Posted By Taz21
 Posted: May 30, 2023 06:49
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Taz21 (369)

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In Shipping, Gaston.La.Brick writes:
  
   Nor do I believe it is commonly acceptable to
ship minifigs as regular mail with only first-class postage in plain envelope.
It is definitely NOT a good idea to send high dollar items this way.

One small remarks:
- What's considered "high dollar"?
Over 80 for 2 figs
One larger remark:
- Regular mail can be shipped as padded envelope or letterbox (it's actually
a small, sturdy carton box that's max 3 cm thick). I use it all the time
as sending as untracked medium, for items op to 30 USD (which is my own limit
of "high dollar" )