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 Author: brox999 View Messages Posted By brox999
 Posted: May 7, 2023 15:04
 Subject: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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brox999 (3777)

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These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now
 Author: ghyde View Messages Posted By ghyde
 Posted: May 7, 2023 15:19
 Subject: Re: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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In Catalog Identification, brox999 writes:
  These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now

They currently are in the catalog as X346 and listed in your store is the light
blue variety as that same number.

So whatever issue with the numbering scheme you're having is not related
to BrickLink, but rather with the inventorying software you're using.

You should file an issue report with whoever is responsible for the numbering
scheme, since BrickLink has no control over offsite numbering schemes.

If this is provided through affiliate software such as Studio then you need to
file the issue report on their forums.

Cheers ...

ghyde
 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: May 7, 2023 15:39
 Subject: Re: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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In Catalog Identification, brox999 writes:
  These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now

This part did not have a part number molded into it when it was first introduced.
BrickLink’s ‘xNNN’ numbers are temporary designations for parts with unknown
design numbers. This was recently changed back to x346, which is very frustrating,
but there is a reason behind it.
 Author: TallyToyBricks View Messages Posted By TallyToyBricks
 Posted: May 7, 2023 20:02
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This part did not have a part number molded into it when it was first introduced.
BrickLink’s ‘xNNN’ numbers are temporary designations for parts with unknown
design numbers. This was recently changed back to x346, which is very frustrating,
but there is a reason behind it.

What is the reason?
 Author: LordSkylark View Messages Posted By LordSkylark
 Posted: May 7, 2023 23:47
 Subject: Re: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, brox999 writes:
  These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now

This part did not have a part number molded into it when it was first introduced.
BrickLink’s ‘xNNN’ numbers are temporary designations for parts with unknown
design numbers. This was recently changed back to x346, which is very frustrating,
but there is a reason behind it.

Hopefully they retain the real part number when it's known, instead of continuing
to use the obsolete arbitrary X numbers.
 Author: Admin_Russell View Messages Posted By Admin_Russell
 Posted: May 8, 2023 00:32
 Subject: Re: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, brox999 writes:
  These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now

This part did not have a part number molded into it when it was first introduced.
BrickLink’s ‘xNNN’ numbers are temporary designations for parts with unknown
design numbers. This was recently changed back to x346, which is very frustrating,
but there is a reason behind it.

The x numbers come from the community (namely Peeron), and they should be retained
as the main part number whenever possible. Part numbers really should only be
corrected when they are wrong. x numbers are not temporary designations and they
are not incorrect. bb numbers are temporary and maybe changed when the true number
is discovered.
 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: May 8, 2023 02:36
 Subject: Re: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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In Catalog Identification, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, brox999 writes:
  These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now

This part did not have a part number molded into it when it was first introduced.
BrickLink’s ‘xNNN’ numbers are temporary designations for parts with unknown
design numbers. This was recently changed back to x346, which is very frustrating,
but there is a reason behind it.

The x numbers come from the community (namely Peeron), and they should be retained
as the main part number whenever possible. Part numbers really should only be
corrected when they are wrong. x numbers are not temporary designations and they
are not incorrect. bb numbers are temporary and maybe changed when the true number
is discovered.

I tried to change a few of these over a year ago and was told that changing these
would mess with BrickLink studio design numbers. Is that not the case?

How are these x designations correct? Peeron and LDraw absolutely used these
when part numbers weren’t known. Apart from preventing BrickLink studio and LDraw
library errors, I don’t see why these are treated any differently than bb designations.
The latter seems to be BrickLink’s approach to unknown part numbers, much like
x designations were Peeron’s. What am I missing?
 Author: Stellar View Messages Posted By Stellar
 Posted: May 8, 2023 06:18
 Subject: Re: X346 vs 41669 and other part numbers
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In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Admin_Russell writes:
  In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, brox999 writes:
  These originally bionicle parts started life as X346 but last time I sold them
they had been renumbered in catalog as 41669, much easier to search, just sold
five and they are vack with the X346 identity.

Can you make up your mind please, as a current part it is much better to have
a numeric part number in my opinion.

I have one trans light-blue in stock, will leave it in my database as 41669 for
now

This part did not have a part number molded into it when it was first introduced.
BrickLink’s ‘xNNN’ numbers are temporary designations for parts with unknown
design numbers. This was recently changed back to x346, which is very frustrating,
but there is a reason behind it.

The x numbers come from the community (namely Peeron), and they should be retained
as the main part number whenever possible. Part numbers really should only be
corrected when they are wrong. x numbers are not temporary designations and they
are not incorrect. bb numbers are temporary and maybe changed when the true number
is discovered.

I tried to change a few of these over a year ago and was told that changing these
would mess with BrickLink studio design numbers. Is that not the case?

How are these x designations correct? Peeron and LDraw absolutely used these
when part numbers weren’t known. Apart from preventing BrickLink studio and LDraw
library errors, I don’t see why these are treated any differently than bb designations.
The latter seems to be BrickLink’s approach to unknown part numbers, much like
x designations were Peeron’s. What am I missing?

To me seems the intention is to keep a history link to Peeron numbers. Studio
usually just changes item numbers to match at a later date.
 Author: Give.Me.A.Brick View Messages Posted By Give.Me.A.Brick
 Posted: May 8, 2023 06:10
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  The x numbers come from the community (namely Peeron), and they should be retained
as the main part number whenever possible. Part numbers really should only be
corrected when they are wrong. x numbers are not temporary designations and they
are not incorrect. bb numbers are temporary and maybe changed when the true number
is discovered.

So what about [p=2543,5] that used to be x70


or [p=6093,86] that used to be x104


and other parts numbers that changed recently such as rubbers, etc?

I thought the goal was to get rid of xXXX numbers whenever an official LEGO number
was known, but you say otherwise, so why the above examples have changed?
 Author: jbroman View Messages Posted By jbroman
 Posted: May 10, 2023 23:15
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In Catalog Identification, Give.Me.A.Brick writes:
  
  The x numbers come from the community (namely Peeron), and they should be retained
as the main part number whenever possible. Part numbers really should only be
corrected when they are wrong. x numbers are not temporary designations and they
are not incorrect. bb numbers are temporary and maybe changed when the true number
is discovered.

So what about [p=2543,5] that used to be x70


or [p=6093,86] that used to be x104


and other parts numbers that changed recently such as rubbers, etc?

I thought the goal was to get rid of xXXX numbers whenever an official LEGO number
was known, but you say otherwise, so why the above examples have changed?

Looks like those have gone back to x numbers

 
Part No: x70  Name: Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cloth Wrap / Bandana with Single Tail in Back
* 
x70 Minifigure, Headgear Hat, Cloth Wrap / Bandana with Single Tail in Back
Parts: Minifigure, Headgear {Red}
 
Part No: x104  Name: Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail
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x104 Minifigure, Hair Female Ponytail
Parts: Minifigure, Hair {Light Bluish Gray}