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| | Author: | bengreen28 | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:11 | Subject: | Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 150 times | Topic: | General | |
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| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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| | | | Author: | V_JAMS | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:11 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Red Brown was brittle around the Lord of the Rings 1st waves.
In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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| | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:19 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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| | | | | | Author: | bengreen28 | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:24 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Darth_Smithy | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:26 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
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2003-2009ish is about right. It's supposed to be fixed now...
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:30 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
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I thinks that’s about when lord of the rings and pirates of the Caribbean sets
were out
Yah they can break super easy from the era. I just sold some legs from a potc
minifigure that were all good on my end but as soon as the customer moved the
legs it got destroyed so that can be very fragile
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | V_JAMS | Posted: | Mar 25, 2023 13:35 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 53 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Any of those sets I acquire or build I never push the torsos and legs together
completely and are very delicate building or placing any brown plates or tiles.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
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I thinks that’s about when lord of the rings and pirates of the Caribbean sets
were out
Yah they can break super easy from the era. I just sold some legs from a potc
minifigure that were all good on my end but as soon as the customer moved the
legs it got destroyed so that can be very fragile
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | manganschlamm | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 07:45 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, V_JAMS writes:
| Any of those sets I acquire or build I never push the torsos and legs together
completely and are very delicate building or placing any brown plates or tiles.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
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I thinks that’s about when lord of the rings and pirates of the Caribbean sets
were out
Yah they can break super easy from the era. I just sold some legs from a potc
minifigure that were all good on my end but as soon as the customer moved the
legs it got destroyed so that can be very fragile
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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The trouble starts when you need to replace cracked arms. Because this can make
the torsos crack. Happened to me with several Uruk-Hai torsos without arms that
were even new. Now when I have to change arms I polish the shoulder joints off
a little bit so that when inserting them it produces less of a pressure. This
seems to work OK.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 27, 2023 00:14 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 43 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, manganschlamm writes:
| In General, V_JAMS writes:
| Any of those sets I acquire or build I never push the torsos and legs together
completely and are very delicate building or placing any brown plates or tiles.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
|
I thinks that’s about when lord of the rings and pirates of the Caribbean sets
were out
Yah they can break super easy from the era. I just sold some legs from a potc
minifigure that were all good on my end but as soon as the customer moved the
legs it got destroyed so that can be very fragile
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
|
Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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The trouble starts when you need to replace cracked arms. Because this can make
the torsos crack. Happened to me with several Uruk-Hai torsos without arms that
were even new. Now when I have to change arms I polish the shoulder joints off
a little bit so that when inserting them it produces less of a pressure. This
seems to work OK.
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Replacing the arms of brittle colours is always a gamble this happened when
I tried it once
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | rylie_aitch | Posted: | Mar 27, 2023 01:01 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, manganschlamm writes:
| In General, V_JAMS writes:
| Any of those sets I acquire or build I never push the torsos and legs together
completely and are very delicate building or placing any brown plates or tiles.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
|
I thinks that’s about when lord of the rings and pirates of the Caribbean sets
were out
Yah they can break super easy from the era. I just sold some legs from a potc
minifigure that were all good on my end but as soon as the customer moved the
legs it got destroyed so that can be very fragile
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
|
Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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The trouble starts when you need to replace cracked arms. Because this can make
the torsos crack. Happened to me with several Uruk-Hai torsos without arms that
were even new. Now when I have to change arms I polish the shoulder joints off
a little bit so that when inserting them it produces less of a pressure. This
seems to work OK.
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Replacing the arms of brittle colours is always a gamble this happened when
I tried it once
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Oh wow. I remember one time I just needed a single Dark Red tile for a MOC, and
went through 11 of them before I found one that didn't split in half as soon
as I attached it to a stud. LEGO Customer Service didn't even believe me
that I needed to replace so many.
Ryan
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 27, 2023 01:07 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 56 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ryanaitch writes:
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, manganschlamm writes:
| In General, V_JAMS writes:
| Any of those sets I acquire or build I never push the torsos and legs together
completely and are very delicate building or placing any brown plates or tiles.
In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| So what sort of age is that, the set I was building is around 2009 so the plates
are more than likely that age as they were in the bulk lot I bought, what surprised
me was the tile breaking whilst in transit, I would expect that to be a bit newer.
|
I thinks that’s about when lord of the rings and pirates of the Caribbean sets
were out
Yah they can break super easy from the era. I just sold some legs from a potc
minifigure that were all good on my end but as soon as the customer moved the
legs it got destroyed so that can be very fragile
| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
|
Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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The trouble starts when you need to replace cracked arms. Because this can make
the torsos crack. Happened to me with several Uruk-Hai torsos without arms that
were even new. Now when I have to change arms I polish the shoulder joints off
a little bit so that when inserting them it produces less of a pressure. This
seems to work OK.
|
Replacing the arms of brittle colours is always a gamble this happened when
I tried it once
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Oh wow. I remember one time I just needed a single Dark Red tile for a MOC, and
went through 11 of them before I found one that didn't split in half as soon
as I attached it to a stud. LEGO Customer Service didn't even believe me
that I needed to replace so many.
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Wow that’s a lot!
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| | | | | | Author: | MarioBrickz | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 20:32 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 47 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Nubs_Select writes:
| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Reddish brown and dark red are the biggest offenders but some other colours like
blue also have had that issue during that lotr/potc era
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I recently ordered a custom LEGO car kit based on a 1969 Ford Mustang. It was
designed by BL seller 'Heart Bricker', but it was sold on a website that
I won't name on here. (It rhymes with deejay.) The car was made out of
mostly reddish-brown LEGO pieces, including tiles. The set included a package
of four extra 1x4 reddish-brown tiles with a note on the bag about some of the
reddish-brown tiles being fragile and prone to breaking. Well, sure enough,
while I was assembling the car, three of the 1x4 reddish-brown tiles in the set
ended up breaking in two, forcing me to use the spares, which, luckily, did not
break.
I plan to order parts from BL within the next couple of months to build two more
1969 Mustangs in convertible form. I just hope that the dark azure, medium azure,
orange, and bright light orange tiles don't have the same problem that the
reddish brown tiles did.
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| | | | Author: | pcthurman | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 05:57 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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I have had issues with Dark Brown being brittle as well.
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| | | | Author: | manganschlamm | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 07:43 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 48 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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I have seen this happening with minifigure parts in Dark Red, Dark Brown and
Reddish Brown. I had minifigure heads of Uruk-Hai chipping off at the neck, several
torsos of LOTR minifigures developing cracks and in one extreme case a leg assembly
of an Uruk-Hai completely broke into pieces when trying to move the legs. I have
however a suspicion that these damages are more likely to happen with parts that
have been exposed to sunlight. I store my minifigures from that time period in
a dark cupboard and all packed individually in small 90 my ziplock bags to protect
them.
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| | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 08:03 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 132 times | Topic: | General | |
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| It happens to parts in the dark too. I was parting out a Helm's Deep yesterday
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This horse broke in two places putting it in a bag. Luckily it happened to me
and not a buyer.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | manganschlamm | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 08:55 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 55 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| It happens to parts in the dark too. I was parting out a Helm's Deep yesterday
...
This horse broke in two places putting it in a bag. Luckily it happened to me
and not a buyer.
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This is totally scary. I thought with good protection from shock and light these
parts would be safe.
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| | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 09:34 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 49 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, manganschlamm writes:
| In General, yorbrick writes:
| It happens to parts in the dark too. I was parting out a Helm's Deep yesterday
...
This horse broke in two places putting it in a bag. Luckily it happened to me
and not a buyer.
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This is totally scary. I thought with good protection from shock and light these
parts would be safe.
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There's something wrong with the plastic itself, it's possible light
etc. might worsen the issue but it's not the ultimate cause.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | V_JAMS | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 09:33 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 42 times | Topic: | General | |
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| Wow. I haven't seen that before. I have a horse from early 80's that
my kids still play with, and it's strong and good as ever. They had a lot
of issues with brown in that time period.
In General, yorbrick writes:
| It happens to parts in the dark too. I was parting out a Helm's Deep yesterday
...
This horse broke in two places putting it in a bag. Luckily it happened to me
and not a buyer.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | Posted: | Mar 27, 2023 00:16 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 39 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| It happens to parts in the dark too. I was parting out a Helm's Deep yesterday
...
This horse broke in two places putting it in a bag. Luckily it happened to me
and not a buyer.
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🤯 I didn’t even think the horse could break
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| | | | Author: | LEGOfan1138 | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 16:14 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 38 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Gold has been pretty bad for me. I have a C3-PO with his torso snapped in half,
arms broken (both the joint and the part connected to the hand) and the legs
are broken off the hips. This was barely even touched.
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| | | | | | Author: | Brandish_Jaye | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 16:17 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 36 times | Topic: | General | |
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Gold has been pretty bad for me. I have a C3-PO with his torso snapped in half,
arms broken (both the joint and the part connected to the hand) and the legs
are broken off the hips. This was barely even touched.
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As long time Transformers collector, gold plastic syndrome is a terrible blight
and has me very concerned for pearl gold LEGO pieces.
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| | | | | | | | Author: | LEGOfan1138 | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 16:20 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 44 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Brandish_Jaye writes:
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Gold has been pretty bad for me. I have a C3-PO with his torso snapped in half,
arms broken (both the joint and the part connected to the hand) and the legs
are broken off the hips. This was barely even touched.
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As long time Transformers collector, gold plastic syndrome is a terrible blight
and has me very concerned for pearl gold LEGO pieces.
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I find it best to try not to mess with gold or reddish brown parts unless absolutely
necessary. I’m terrified to purchase and build the Ewok Village set because of
it lol!
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| | | | Author: | Upstate_Brickz | Posted: | Mar 26, 2023 16:34 | Subject: | Re: Brittle Colours | Viewed: | 40 times | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, bengreen28 writes:
| I have had a run of Dark red coloured plates and tiles just shattering as you
try and separate them from other parts.
I had test built a set that was going to be listed on here, built it fine and
as I started to dismantle it I had parts of the edge of a 2x4 plate break off
and a 2x12 plate shatter into 4 pieces.
I had also ordered some 1x8 tiles and as they ended up loose in the box (the
bag had split) one of them was in 2 pieces by the time it arrived!
Any ideas as to why it seems to just be the Dark Red that is this bad or does
anybody know of any other colours to be extra careful with?
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Dark blue can be pretty bad too. I have the Boeing 787 Dreamliner from 2006.
I put it together once and while taking it apart, some of the larger plates had
chunks snap right off.
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