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| | | Author: | WILYKAT  | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2023 23:08 | | Subject: | [rant] I hate minor part variants! | | Viewed: | 135 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| 92903 and 6005 (1x3x2 curved top arch) are listed together as the same part even
though it's shown in one picture (attached below for your convenience) that
92903 is maybe half a mm lower at the mid point of the curve. Short of looking
at the tiny and hard to read number, most sellers wouldn't know which one
are which and BL doesn't separate that 2 at all. Functionally they are identical.
But so are minifig torsos with short and long rib and minifig head with blocked
open, vented, solid, and hollow stud. Yet they are separate for historical use,
people prefer to match correct part with original LEGO set when rebuilding older
sets.
I was cleaning my moc now that I've gotten a cheap purple helmet and air
tank and found my old black spacemen when I noticed one of the black and both
of the red arches stuck out a bit. That's how I found out about the minor
variant. And now my moc feels incomplete with 3 of the slightly larger 6005
Just wondering if it's practical to have 3 categories, one for verified 6005,
one for verified 92903, and one of undetermined variants, and to try and get
correct part # on future new set cataloguing? I sure wouldn't want to spend
a lot of time looking for seller that has only 92903 in red and black so my moc
has all smooth top.
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| | | | | Author: | Ziegelmeister | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2023 23:14 | | Subject: | Re: [rant] I hate minor part variants! | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| In Off Topic, WILYKAT writes:
| | 92903 and 6005 (1x3x2 curved top arch) are listed together as the same part even
though it's shown in one picture (attached below for your convenience) that
92903 is maybe half a mm lower at the mid point of the curve. Short of looking
at the tiny and hard to read number, most sellers wouldn't know which one
are which and BL doesn't separate that 2 at all. Functionally they are identical.
But so are minifig torsos with short and long rib and minifig head with blocked
open, vented, solid, and hollow stud. Yet they are separate for historical use,
people prefer to match correct part with original LEGO set when rebuilding older
sets.
I was cleaning my moc now that I've gotten a cheap purple helmet and air
tank and found my old black spacemen when I noticed one of the black and both
of the red arches stuck out a bit. That's how I found out about the minor
variant. And now my moc feels incomplete with 3 of the slightly larger 6005
Just wondering if it's practical to have 3 categories, one for verified 6005,
one for verified 92903, and one of undetermined variants, and to try and get
correct part # on future new set cataloguing? I sure wouldn't want to spend
a lot of time looking for seller that has only 92903 in red and black so my moc
has all smooth top.
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!!! Wwwwhhhhhhyyyyyy would they think this was a good idea?
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| | | | | | | Author: | WILYKAT | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2023 23:34 | | Subject: | Re: [rant] I hate minor part variants! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| In Off Topic, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | !!! Wwwwhhhhhhyyyyyy would they think this was a good idea?
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From LEGO: slightly lower arch probably saves them $0.001 cents using less plastic.
Multiply that by maybe 1 million total lifetime variants and that adds up to
a thousand dollars saving. Then again, LEGO uses more plastic with torso containing
ribs vs old torso from before mid-80s that had no rib.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2023 23:35 | | Subject: | Re: [rant] I hate minor part variants! | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| In Off Topic, WILYKAT writes:
| | In Off Topic, Yellow.Brick writes:
| | !!! Wwwwhhhhhhyyyyyy would they think this was a good idea?
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From LEGO: slightly lower arch probably saves them $0.001 cents using less plastic.
Multiply that by maybe 1 million total lifetime variants and that adds up to
a thousand dollars saving. Then again, LEGO uses more plastic with torso containing
ribs vs old torso from before mid-80s that had no rib.
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Probably wouldn’t save money since they would have to make a new mould which
isn’t cheap
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| | | | | Author: | BrianZZZ | | Posted: | Mar 17, 2023 23:28 | | Subject: | Re: [rant] I hate minor part variants! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| It all makes sense now.
I notice a very minor height difference in set 60327 part
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6183&idColor=1#T=C&C=1
and
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2571&idColor=1#T=C&C=1
and thought lego is losing their standards.
I wonder if either of these two shapes have variants,
because they are NOT lining up correctly in this set.
In Off Topic, WILYKAT writes:
| | 92903 and 6005 (1x3x2 curved top arch) are listed together as the same part even
though it's shown in one picture (attached below for your convenience) that
92903 is maybe half a mm lower at the mid point of the curve. Short of looking
at the tiny and hard to read number, most sellers wouldn't know which one
are which and BL doesn't separate that 2 at all. Functionally they are identical.
But so are minifig torsos with short and long rib and minifig head with blocked
open, vented, solid, and hollow stud. Yet they are separate for historical use,
people prefer to match correct part with original LEGO set when rebuilding older
sets.
I was cleaning my moc now that I've gotten a cheap purple helmet and air
tank and found my old black spacemen when I noticed one of the black and both
of the red arches stuck out a bit. That's how I found out about the minor
variant. And now my moc feels incomplete with 3 of the slightly larger 6005
Just wondering if it's practical to have 3 categories, one for verified 6005,
one for verified 92903, and one of undetermined variants, and to try and get
correct part # on future new set cataloguing? I sure wouldn't want to spend
a lot of time looking for seller that has only 92903 in red and black so my moc
has all smooth top.
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| | | | | | | Author: | pcthurman | | Posted: | Mar 18, 2023 02:49 | | Subject: | Re: [rant] I hate minor part variants! | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Off Topic | |
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| In Off Topic, BrianZZZ writes:
| | It all makes sense now.
I notice a very minor height difference in set 60327 part
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=6183&idColor=1#T=C&C=1
and
https://www.bricklink.com/v2/catalog/catalogitem.page?P=2571&idColor=1#T=C&C=1
and thought lego is losing their standards.
I wonder if either of these two shapes have variants,
because they are NOT lining up correctly in this set.
In Off Topic, WILYKAT writes:
| | 92903 and 6005 (1x3x2 curved top arch) are listed together as the same part even
though it's shown in one picture (attached below for your convenience) that
92903 is maybe half a mm lower at the mid point of the curve. Short of looking
at the tiny and hard to read number, most sellers wouldn't know which one
are which and BL doesn't separate that 2 at all. Functionally they are identical.
But so are minifig torsos with short and long rib and minifig head with blocked
open, vented, solid, and hollow stud. Yet they are separate for historical use,
people prefer to match correct part with original LEGO set when rebuilding older
sets.
I was cleaning my moc now that I've gotten a cheap purple helmet and air
tank and found my old black spacemen when I noticed one of the black and both
of the red arches stuck out a bit. That's how I found out about the minor
variant. And now my moc feels incomplete with 3 of the slightly larger 6005
Just wondering if it's practical to have 3 categories, one for verified 6005,
one for verified 92903, and one of undetermined variants, and to try and get
correct part # on future new set cataloguing? I sure wouldn't want to spend
a lot of time looking for seller that has only 92903 in red and black so my moc
has all smooth top.
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Brian,
You would have to get a part 35253 (which is an alternate for part 2571) & a
part 2571 and compare them side by side to see if there are any height or width
differences.
The alternate for part 6183 (Which has a note: This part has variants with slightly
differing curvatures.) is part 24434.
Cass T
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