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 Author: rylie_aitch View Messages Posted By rylie_aitch
 Posted: Mar 13, 2023 18:15
 Subject: Watch Set(s) 4367
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I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan
 Author: here4bricks614 View Messages Posted By here4bricks614
 Posted: Mar 13, 2023 18:37
 Subject: Re: Watch Set(s) 4367
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In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan

Have you tried looking through Brickshelf? I found another watch (4376) from
2000 that hasn't been added here. https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=582581

Looks like it could have some potential candidates for 168 Gun Metallic.
 Author: rylie_aitch View Messages Posted By rylie_aitch
 Posted: Mar 13, 2023 18:56
 Subject: Re: Watch Set(s) 4367
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In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan

Have you tried looking through Brickshelf? I found another watch (4376) from
2000 that hasn't been added here. https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=582581

Looks like it could have some potential candidates for 168 Gun Metallic.

Nice find!! It looks like an early version of this set:

[g=4372]

I haven't found either X-10 or Y-10 yet, but their bezels are aluminum, not
plastic — and not listed as 168
 Author: Dino View Messages Posted By Dino
 Posted: Mar 13, 2023 19:08
 Subject: Re: Watch Set(s) 4367
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In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan

Have you tried looking through Brickshelf? I found another watch (4376) from
2000 that hasn't been added here. https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=582581

Looks like it could have some potential candidates for 168 Gun Metallic.

Nice find!! It looks like an early version of this set:

[g=4372]

I haven't found either X-10 or Y-10 yet, but their bezels are aluminum, not
plastic — and not listed as 168

I would say, Set 4370 never exist. It's Set 4376. I never found X-10 with
another Setnumber.
 Author: rylie_aitch View Messages Posted By rylie_aitch
 Posted: Mar 14, 2023 10:12
 Subject: Re: Watch Set(s) 4367
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In Catalog Identification, Dino writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan

Have you tried looking through Brickshelf? I found another watch (4376) from
2000 that hasn't been added here. https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=582581

Looks like it could have some potential candidates for 168 Gun Metallic.

Nice find!! It looks like an early version of this set:

[g=4372]

I haven't found either X-10 or Y-10 yet, but their bezels are aluminum, not
plastic — and not listed as 168

I would say, Set 4370 never exist. It's Set 4376. I never found X-10 with
another Setnumber.

Do you have the watch? Could you put in the change request?

I wonder where Lugnet got their set numbers...
 Author: Dino View Messages Posted By Dino
 Posted: Mar 14, 2023 12:19
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In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Dino writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan

Have you tried looking through Brickshelf? I found another watch (4376) from
2000 that hasn't been added here. https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=582581

Looks like it could have some potential candidates for 168 Gun Metallic.

Nice find!! It looks like an early version of this set:

[g=4372]

I haven't found either X-10 or Y-10 yet, but their bezels are aluminum, not
plastic — and not listed as 168

I would say, Set 4370 never exist. It's Set 4376. I never found X-10 with
another Setnumber.

Do you have the watch? Could you put in the change request?

Yes, I own this watch. But I don't make any new entries or changes here anymore.
You can do it yourself. On Brickshelf you can find the corresponding data.
  
I wonder where Lugnet got their set numbers...

I don't know who made the entry on Lugnet, but comments are ignored there
too. From the errors you can see how all, Bricklink, Lugnet, Peeron and Brickset
copy or have copied from each other without doing their own research.

There are 446 watches listed here on Bricklink. I have found 770 different watches
so far. Where as a collector I consider each order number or box variant as a
separate watch. If I eliminate that, there are still more than 520. How many
watches have you catalogued so far?
 Author: rylie_aitch View Messages Posted By rylie_aitch
 Posted: Mar 14, 2023 15:01
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In Catalog Identification, Dino writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  In Catalog Identification, Dino writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  In Catalog Identification, here4bricks614 writes:
  In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan

Have you tried looking through Brickshelf? I found another watch (4376) from
2000 that hasn't been added here. https://brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=582581

Looks like it could have some potential candidates for 168 Gun Metallic.

Nice find!! It looks like an early version of this set:

[g=4372]

I haven't found either X-10 or Y-10 yet, but their bezels are aluminum, not
plastic — and not listed as 168

I would say, Set 4370 never exist. It's Set 4376. I never found X-10 with
another Setnumber.

Do you have the watch? Could you put in the change request?

Yes, I own this watch. But I don't make any new entries or changes here anymore.
You can do it yourself. On Brickshelf you can find the corresponding data.
  
I wonder where Lugnet got their set numbers...

I don't know who made the entry on Lugnet, but comments are ignored there
too. From the errors you can see how all, Bricklink, Lugnet, Peeron and Brickset
copy or have copied from each other without doing their own research.

There are 446 watches listed here on Bricklink. I have found 770 different watches
so far. Where as a collector I consider each order number or box variant as a
separate watch. If I eliminate that, there are still more than 520. How many
watches have you catalogued so far?

Everything I have found, I have added to the BrickLink catalog myself (along
with full inventories) — but only if I have it in-hand. I've added I think
only 13 watches, around 100 watch parts, and 33 watch inventories. Is your collection
publicly cataloged anywhere? I'm very curious to see now

Ryan
 Author: Dino View Messages Posted By Dino
 Posted: Mar 13, 2023 18:40
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In Catalog Identification, ryanaitch writes:
  I saw a listing on [auction site - 255997977724] that has three watches I've
never seen a reference to before:

4367 Belville Butterfly on the Wings of Time
4367 Belville Fairy
4367 Aqua Blue

They have similar packaging to 2001 watches, but all have the date 2000, and
the same set number as a known watch:

[g=4367]

Does anyone know anything about these sets? Are they pre-release prototypes?
I know that *all* watches from that era are a bit obscure, but I'd love to
know more about these.

Ryan


The EAN code of these 3 watches is the EAN code of 4370 "Grinder".