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 Author: Kelcy View Messages Posted By Kelcy
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 13:57
 Subject: questioning feathers in set 6054, Forestmen's
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Kelcy (315)

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I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?
 Author: Darth_Smithy View Messages Posted By Darth_Smithy
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 14:00
 Subject: Re: questioning feathers in set 6054, Forestmen's
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In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

This was answered in your other thread.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1388630
 Author: Kelcy View Messages Posted By Kelcy
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 19:09
 Subject: Re: questioning feathers in set 6054, Forestmen's
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Kelcy (315)

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In Inventories, Darth_Smithy writes:
  In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

This was answered in your other thread.

https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1388630

And so it was, thank you.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 14:57
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  So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

If you bought it new complete, then they must be included. If you sell as used
they do not need to be included. However, as they are in the inventory it is
a good idea to say they are missing but all the parts needed to build the set
are present.
 Author: axaday View Messages Posted By axaday
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In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

In a new set feathers come on a round sprue. Whatever color the set used, you
got a full sprue that color with 1 of each feather. But the sprue can't
be in the inventory because some of the feathers are in minifig inventories.
The remainder that are not used get put in the inventory.

But maybe they should be in the extras section, if they aren't.
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 16:08
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yorbrick (1182)

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In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

In a new set feathers come on a round sprue. Whatever color the set used, you
got a full sprue that color with 1 of each feather. But the sprue can't
be in the inventory because some of the feathers are in minifig inventories.
The remainder that are not used get put in the inventory.

But maybe they should be in the extras section, if they aren't.

It was always going to be an issue when the decision was made to include them
in the main inventory instead of as extras.
 Author: Darth_Smithy View Messages Posted By Darth_Smithy
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 16:10
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Darth_Smithy (1307)

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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

In a new set feathers come on a round sprue. Whatever color the set used, you
got a full sprue that color with 1 of each feather. But the sprue can't
be in the inventory because some of the feathers are in minifig inventories.
The remainder that are not used get put in the inventory.

But maybe they should be in the extras section, if they aren't.

It was always going to be an issue when the decision was made to include them
in the main inventory instead of as extras.

^^^ Agreed
 Author: Kelcy View Messages Posted By Kelcy
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 19:12
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Kelcy (315)

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In Inventories, yorbrick writes:
  In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

In a new set feathers come on a round sprue. Whatever color the set used, you
got a full sprue that color with 1 of each feather. But the sprue can't
be in the inventory because some of the feathers are in minifig inventories.
The remainder that are not used get put in the inventory.

But maybe they should be in the extras section, if they aren't.

It was always going to be an issue when the decision was made to include them
in the main inventory instead of as extras.

Thanks for all the great replys!
 Author: Kelcy View Messages Posted By Kelcy
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 19:11
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Kelcy (315)

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In Inventories, axaday writes:
  In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions? If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included? Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

In a new set feathers come on a round sprue. Whatever color the set used, you
got a full sprue that color with 1 of each feather. But the sprue can't
be in the inventory because some of the feathers are in minifig inventories.
The remainder that are not used get put in the inventory.

But maybe they should be in the extras section, if they aren't.

Thanks, I think they should be extras as the set can be completed without these.
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
 Posted: Jan 29, 2023 21:00
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In Inventories, Kelcy writes:
  I want to sell set 6054, Forestmen's Hideout and I want to state that it
is a complete set.
I see four feathers in the inventory, two yellow feathers and two white feathers,
pieces 4502b and 4502c, one of each color. However, I do not see these feathers
anywhere in the instructions. These are not the yellow and white, 4502a, feathers
that are part of the inventory of the two Forestmen. I also see that those 4
feathers were move to "regular" not extra parts in 2019.

So, my questions are, WHY are these four feathers part of the inventory when
they are not anywhere in the instructions?

already answered in your other thread.

   If I bought this set new, would these
pieces be included?

So, yes.

   Can I sell this set as complete, without these four feathers?

Definition of a complete used set on bricklink:

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102

Complete - Set contains all parts necessary to build all of the models
(including alternate models)
in the instructions but does not have to contain
the original box/packaging and/or extra parts.


So, what about other alternate models? Did you check the other models that appear
on the box arts? (specially those printed on the back of the parts)
I did a quick look and it appears they were not used (double check this). So
you can sell this set "complete".

It is a good practice to mention this in your descriptions, something like:

Complete, no box, no instructions (the 4 extra white and yellow plumes 4502b
and 4502c are not included. These were not used in any of the models in this
set)