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| | | Author: | alex10552  | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:32 | | Subject: | Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 190 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| BrickLink offers two options for the condition of a minifigure. Used or New.
Pretty simple! :]
My thinking: it's only "new" if the minifig is still disassembled. That's
a sure sign of a new figure, when you piece it together and get that tight squeeze
for the first time, right?
However, I've come across quite a few minifigure listings that mention that
the figure has been assembled but it's still listed as New. TIL that BrickLink
still considers a minifigure's condition as New even when assembled. (New
Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were
purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and
have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either assembled
or unassembled.)
I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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| | | | | Author: | alex10552 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| Honestly, if I received a "new" minifigure that came already assembled, this
would be mildly upsetting. That is now very lightly used condition, imho.
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| | | | | Author: | Nubs_Select | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:35 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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It's a very argued topic some like myself agree that its fine either way
but others are very against it. sellers can assemble the figure for different
reasons but mainly for easier identification.
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| | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:43 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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Me too.
I don't know why it's allowed for sellers to play with the buyers'
parts.
Of course - assuming LEGO didn't ship them as is.
But maybe that's one of the reason, it'd require/need an extra Catalogue
task 
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| | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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Me too.
I don't know why it's allowed for sellers to play with the buyers'
parts.
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In some countries that is illegal, but as long as both parties agree…. 
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Of course - assuming LEGO didn't ship them as is.
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Yes, sometimes they come assembled from LEGO.
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task
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| | | | | | | Author: | ImperialFleet | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | If it is stated in the sellers terms I don't see a problem. |
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:59 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | If it is stated in the sellers terms I don't see a problem.
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Do as you wish, but you'll find more buyers unhappy of this than buyers expected
this.
In 16 years here, I can't remember of anybody requiring to assemble their
Minifig.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | miskox | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 04:10 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | In 16 years here, I can't remember of anybody requiring to assemble their
Minifig.
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Sylvain, your math is not good: 2022 - 2005 = 17 years and not 16.
Saso
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | cycbuild | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 05:22 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, miskox writes:
| | | | In 16 years here, I can't remember of anybody requiring to assemble their
Minifig.
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Sylvain, your math is not good: 2022 - 2005 = 17 years and not 16.
Saso
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But 1001bricks is actually a year younger than his account?
Oct 2005 - Sept 2022 = 16 years!
The Civil Accords Of Internet Conduct disavows any anonymous online person's
existence prior to their most recent username.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 10:18 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, cycbuild writes:
| | In General, miskox writes:
| | | | In 16 years here, I can't remember of anybody requiring to assemble their
Minifig.
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Sylvain, your math is not good: 2022 - 2005 = 17 years and not 16.
Saso
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But 1001bricks is actually a year younger than his account?
Oct 2005 - Sept 2022 = 16 years!
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I'm lost, too busy right now.
Anyway registered in 2005, shop in 2006.
Now how many years that makes, I mean... it's too many anyway!
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Oh thanks for this!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 10:15 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 23 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, miskox writes:
| | | | In 16 years here, I can't remember of anybody requiring to assemble their
Minifig.
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Sylvain, your math is not good: 2022 - 2005 = 17 years and not 16.
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Here for 17 years, shop created 6 months later in march 2006 if I remember well,
so 16.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 18:01 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 33 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | If it is stated in the sellers terms I don't see a problem.
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I don’t think it should ever be
| | | | “ it's allowed for sellers to play with the buyers parts.”
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| | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:45 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| There are minifigs that come partly or completely assembled straight from LEGO.
That's why the rule exists as it does.
David
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| | | | | | | Author: | alex10552 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:48 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| No kidding?! That's wild, I never knew. Do you know of any specific ones
where this occurs?
In General, crazylegoman writes:
| | There are minifigs that come partly or completely assembled straight from LEGO.
That's why the rule exists as it does.
David
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:58 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, alex10552 writes:
| | No kidding?! That's wild, I never knew. Do you know of any specific ones
where this occurs?
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But there are more
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In General, crazylegoman writes:
| | There are minifigs that come partly or completely assembled straight from LEGO.
That's why the rule exists as it does.
David
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | crazylegoman | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 20:20 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, alex10552 writes:
| | No kidding?! That's wild, I never knew. Do you know of any specific ones
where this occurs?
In General, crazylegoman writes:
| | There are minifigs that come partly or completely assembled straight from LEGO.
That's why the rule exists as it does.
David
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Ones like the magnet sets with minifigs
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:51 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, crazylegoman writes:
| | There are minifigs that come partly or completely assembled straight from LEGO.
That's why the rule exists as it does.
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I also think this is the reason for the rule but the wording can ge interpreted
as meaning sellers can assemble them first. I know some sellers claim they are
protecting the parts from rubbing against each other by asembling it, but then
if you buy 10 torsos from them, they'd still bag them all together.
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:47 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, alex10552 writes:
| | BrickLink offers two options for the condition of a minifigure. Used or New.
Pretty simple! :]
My thinking: it's only "new" if the minifig is still disassembled. That's
a sure sign of a new figure, when you piece it together and get that tight squeeze
for the first time, right?
However, I've come across quite a few minifigure listings that mention that
the figure has been assembled but it's still listed as New. TIL that BrickLink
still considers a minifigure's condition as New even when assembled. (New
Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were
purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and
have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either assembled
or unassembled.)
I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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I also prefer new minifigs to not be assembled by the seller, especially ones
with capes and definitely if I only want a couple of parts and want to be able
to sell the other parts I don't need. If sellers insist on assembling them
first, it is good if they make this clear so it is easy to least favourite the
store if you prefer new items to be unassembled.
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| | | | | Author: | ImperialFleet | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:52 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:56 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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No, it's apparently because you just like to assemble them.
It's an extra work; why would anyone sane accept to do an extra work - if
not for the pleasure 
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| | | | | | | Author: | alex10552 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 17:59 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| That's great that that's how you do it... but let's not lie to ourselves,
here. You've now just changed the condition from new to used. Very very slightly
used, yes. But still used.
In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 11:49 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, alex10552 writes:
| | That's great that that's how you do it... but let's not lie to ourselves,
here. You've now just changed the condition from new to used. Very very slightly
used, yes. But still used.
In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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Hi is not lying to himself or anyone else. BrickLink allows anyone to assemble
their minifigs and sell them as new so it is completely okay for him to do so
and his store terms highlight in all caps " ALL NEW MINIFIGURES ARE ASSEMBLED
UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE! ".
We do not assemble our figures for 2 reasons, first, the extra work takes extra
time and second, because we know that buyers want to put them together for themselves.
Regardless of how we sell figs, if a store wants to sell their figs assembled
then that is up to them.
Jim
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 11:58 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | Hi is not lying to himself or anyone else. BrickLink allows anyone to assemble
their minifigs and sell them as new so it is completely okay for him to do so
and his store terms highlight in all caps " ALL NEW MINIFIGURES ARE ASSEMBLED
UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE! ".
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This was NOT stated at the time he posted claiming it was in the terms.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | alex10552 | | Posted: | Sep 16, 2022 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| You're missing the point -- leave the BrickLink definition out for a
moment.
By assembling the minifigure, the plastic parts that join together are essentially
starting to cause stress against one other. This now changes the condition from
"new". Simple as that.
In General, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | Hi is not lying to himself or anyone else. BrickLink allows anyone to assemble
their minifigs and sell them as new so it is completely okay for him to do so
and his store terms highlight in all caps " ALL NEW MINIFIGURES ARE ASSEMBLED
UNLESS STATED OTHERWISE! ".
We do not assemble our figures for 2 reasons, first, the extra work takes extra
time and second, because we know that buyers want to put them together for themselves.
Regardless of how we sell figs, if a store wants to sell their figs assembled
then that is up to them.
Jim
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 18:02 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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Whereabouts is it clearly stated in your terms? I couldn't see it.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 18:05 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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Whereabouts is it clearly stated in your terms? I couldn't see it.
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Nowhere, even in 2021
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 11:44 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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Whereabouts is it clearly stated in your terms? I couldn't see it.
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It is the 11th line of his terms, highlighted and in all caps.
Jim
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 11:57 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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Whereabouts is it clearly stated in your terms? I couldn't see it.
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It is the 11th line of his terms, highlighted and in all caps.
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Go back in time to when I posted, it wasn't.
Look at the date the last change was made. Click that and go back to the previous
version.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | TheBrickGuys | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 20:07 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, TheBrickGuys writes:
| | In General, yorbrick writes:
| | In General, ImperialFleet writes:
| | I assemble all of my new minifigures. I state it clearly in my terms. I only
list a minifigure as new if I pulled it from a set and assembled it then placed
it in a bag. That is how I do it, if you don't want them assembled, then
find another seller. It's how I run my store.
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Whereabouts is it clearly stated in your terms? I couldn't see it.
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It is the 11th line of his terms, highlighted and in all caps.
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Go back in time to when I posted, it wasn't.
Look at the date the last change was made. Click that and go back to the previous
version.
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Okay, that is true but he actually does not even need to state in his store terms
that they are assembled. According to BrickLink, he is allowed to sell them that
way so he is still not lying to himself or anyone else, otherwise some minifigs
would need to be listed as used right out of the set not even ever being touched.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 12:32 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 28 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| | | | | Whereabouts is it clearly stated in your terms? I couldn't see it.
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It is the 11th line of his terms, highlighted and in all caps.
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It's brand new Terms.
But the Minifigures are slightly Used
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| | | | | Author: | krisz590 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 18:20 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, alex10552 writes:
| | BrickLink offers two options for the condition of a minifigure. Used or New.
Pretty simple! :]
My thinking: it's only "new" if the minifig is still disassembled. That's
a sure sign of a new figure, when you piece it together and get that tight squeeze
for the first time, right?
However, I've come across quite a few minifigure listings that mention that
the figure has been assembled but it's still listed as New. TIL that BrickLink
still considers a minifigure's condition as New even when assembled. (New
Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were
purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and
have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either assembled
or unassembled.)
I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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In some early sets minifigs came partly assembled and some Dacta sets completely
assembled, I find it best to supply them just as they came out of the box.
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| | | | | Author: | MidwestBrick | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 18:24 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, alex10552 writes:
| | BrickLink offers two options for the condition of a minifigure. Used or New.
Pretty simple! :]
My thinking: it's only "new" if the minifig is still disassembled. That's
a sure sign of a new figure, when you piece it together and get that tight squeeze
for the first time, right?
However, I've come across quite a few minifigure listings that mention that
the figure has been assembled but it's still listed as New. TIL that BrickLink
still considers a minifigure's condition as New even when assembled. (New
Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were
purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and
have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either assembled
or unassembled.)
I strongly disagree with that notion. What are others' thoughts on the matter?
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Simple as this... when you buy something at a store that needs assembling and
part of that joy in purchasing an item from a store is the assembly phase...
then you would be disappointed if the assembling stage was completed for you.
So, the act of putting a minifig together and listing it as "new" removes that
assembling stage for a Buyer that wants to complete the process themselves, as
part of the purchase.
In conclusion, never assemble something that someone else wants to complete,
thus every mini-fig that is "new" in my shop is 100% always unassembled so the
buyer can have that joy passed on to them with their purchase.
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| | | | | | | Author: | maxx3001 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 18:49 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In General, alex10552 writes:
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| | thus every mini-fig that is "new" in my shop is 100% always unassembled so the
buyer can have that joy passed on to them with their purchase.
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What about the assembled ones directly from LEGO or the heads on the torsos?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | MidwestBrick | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 00:11 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, maxx3001 writes:
| | In General, MidwestBrick writes:
| | In General, alex10552 writes:
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| | thus every mini-fig that is "new" in my shop is 100% always unassembled so the
buyer can have that joy passed on to them with their purchase.
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What about the assembled ones directly from LEGO or the heads on the torsos?
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Nothing I usually have to worry about as I buy all my Lego from Retail stores.
but of course it would be an outliner if they came from Lego already pre-assembled.
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| | | | | | | Author: | TheCuteGiraffe | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 19:09 | | Subject: | Re: Minifigure Condition - New | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| I feel like it does take away some of the joy, kinda like taking away the building
process of the minifigure.
I prefer to build it, even though some of the minifigures only have a few parts.
Thats just me though.
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