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| | | Author: | calsbricks  | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 08:33 | | Subject: | Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 220 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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| | | | | Author: | Poncke | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 08:55 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 60 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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Windows 7 support ended on January 14, 2020
So not only are you putting yourself at risk, but why do you hold it against
Brickstore for not supporting W7 but you are OK with Microsoft not supporting
W7, which is a much bigger issue for you.
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| | | | | | | Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 09:07 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, Poncke writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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Windows 7 support ended on January 14, 2020
So not only are you putting yourself at risk, but why do you hold it against
Brickstore for not supporting W7 but you are OK with Microsoft not supporting
W7, which is a much bigger issue for you.
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We are not really at risk with windows 7 we have adequate protection - Brickstore
, on the other hand seem to think the world is moving to app stores (which is
not the case for PC applications).
We think BS should continue to support windows 7 - they are abandoning over 100
million users (who also continue to use Windows 7)
We are far from being a Microsoft fan and we have been one of their partners
since 2000.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 09:14 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | We think BS should continue to support windows 7 - they are abandoning over 100
million users (who also continue to use Windows 7)
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Perhaps BrickStore supporting Windows 7 is difficult when there is no official
support from MS?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 09:22 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, peregrinator writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | We think BS should continue to support windows 7 - they are abandoning over 100
million users (who also continue to use Windows 7)
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Perhaps BrickStore supporting Windows 7 is difficult when there is no official
support from MS?
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Pssibly but the way the notice r4eads it is more to do with an app store.
"This comes with a lot of advantages, but also disadvantages for a few users.
The disadvantages:
Windows 7, 8.1 and macOS 10.13 are no longer supported, as they have been discontinued
by their respective vendors. Support for these platforms will not come back!
32bit Windows (x86) is no longer offered as pre-built package to download. Qt
(the library BrickStore is built upon) doesn't offer an installer for this
platform anymore, because there are too few users left using it. Getting BrickStore
running on a 32bit Windows 10 is technically possible, but you are on your own
here, having to build Qt 6.2.4 plus BrickStore yourself.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| Sounds to me like non-support by MS (and Apple) is causing issues with one or
more of the libraries used by BrickStore, and hence, BS can't support windows
7, etc. reliably.
In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, peregrinator writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | We think BS should continue to support windows 7 - they are abandoning over 100
million users (who also continue to use Windows 7)
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Perhaps BrickStore supporting Windows 7 is difficult when there is no official
support from MS?
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Pssibly but the way the notice r4eads it is more to do with an app store.
"This comes with a lot of advantages, but also disadvantages for a few users.
The disadvantages:
Windows 7, 8.1 and macOS 10.13 are no longer supported, as they have been discontinued
by their respective vendors. Support for these platforms will not come back!
32bit Windows (x86) is no longer offered as pre-built package to download. Qt
(the library BrickStore is built upon) doesn't offer an installer for this
platform anymore, because there are too few users left using it. Getting BrickStore
running on a 32bit Windows 10 is technically possible, but you are on your own
here, having to build Qt 6.2.4 plus BrickStore yourself.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | samsam2 | | Posted: | Sep 15, 2022 14:08 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| I'd just like to point out that Windows 8.1 is supported by Microsoft in
the way most people think 'supported' means, that is until January 2023,
which is 10 years from when it was released (approximately). Windows 8.1 still
receives monthly Windows security updates, but the current Brickstore does not
run on Win 8.1 anymore.
| | Pssibly but the way the notice r4eads it is more to do with an app store.
"This comes with a lot of advantages, but also disadvantages for a few users.
The disadvantages:
Windows 7, 8.1 and macOS 10.13 are no longer supported, as they have been discontinued
by their respective vendors.
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| | | | | Author: | ErwinNL | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 13:52 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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You don't have to update BrickStore, use the old version, or move to a
modern OS like Linux if you don't like Windows 10+.
How long should the developer support your outdated Windows, another 5 years,
another 10, forever?
And how about the users that would like new features implemented, features that
are not supported in the current libraries?
I am sure he made a decision that is best for the project.
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 14:19 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, ErwinNL writes:
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You don't have to update BrickStore, use the old version, or move to a
modern OS like Linux if you don't like Windows 10+.
How long should the developer support your outdated Windows, another 5 years,
another 10, forever?
And how about the users that would like new features implemented, features that
are not supported in the current libraries?
I am sure he made a decision that is best for the project.
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Not only BrickStore is free (gratis), it’s also open source (GPL to be precise).
That means anybody can fork it, continue support for W7, while still following
with the main version and its new features.
That’s the magic of open source: Not happy with how it goes? You can do it yourself
and you don’t have to start from scratch.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | ErwinNL | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 15:15 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Related Software, ErwinNL writes:
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You don't have to update BrickStore, use the old version, or move to a
modern OS like Linux if you don't like Windows 10+.
How long should the developer support your outdated Windows, another 5 years,
another 10, forever?
And how about the users that would like new features implemented, features that
are not supported in the current libraries?
I am sure he made a decision that is best for the project.
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Not only BrickStore is free (gratis), it’s also open source (GPL to be precise).
That means anybody can fork it, continue support for W7, while still following
with the main version and its new features.
That’s the magic of open source: Not happy with how it goes? You can do it yourself
and you don’t have to start from scratch.
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Good point 
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | macebobo | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 16:51 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, SylvainLS writes:
| | Not only BrickStore is free (gratis), it’s also open source (GPL to be precise).
That means anybody can fork it, continue support for W7, while still following
with the main version and its new features.
That’s the magic of open source: Not happy with how it goes? You can do it yourself
and you don’t have to start from scratch.
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Guess I know what I am doing later this week, loading the old QT, and forking
Tag v2022.4.1 - that is after those sets I just purchase get parted out.
Good time to dust off the C++ skills as they are a bit crusty. 
I agree with Cal that windows 10 and 11 are too invasive for me. Windows 7 Enterprise,
forever.
BTW, MS still sends me security intelligence, malicious software removal tool,
and Windows defender antivirus updates. However, YMMV, as this may be because
I have an ESU for Windows 7.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 17:06 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| | | | | That’s the magic of open source: Not happy with how it goes? You can do it yourself
and you don’t have to start from scratch.
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Guess I know what I am doing later this week, loading the old QT, and forking
Tag v2022.4.1 - that is after those sets I just purchase get parted out.
Good time to dust off the C++ skills as they are a bit crusty.
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I'm exactly in the same position.
| | I agree with Cal that windows 10 and 11 are too invasive for me. Windows 7 Enterprise,
forever.
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Oh there are many ways to make Windows 10 lighter and safer:
* windows-privacy-tweaker.exe
* DisableWinTracking.exe
* 10AppsManager.exe
Use them and you get rid of a zillion hassles.
I used both of them on 10+ installed PCs, like a charm!
But just like you and Cal probably, we still *have* to be on Windows 7 (running
24/7 like Swiss clocks), at lest for the next 6 months/1 year.
I personnaly wrote to Robert Griebl, the creator.
Of course I don't think he'll rollback to the Windows 7 compatible version,
or gonna maintain both versions.
But I asked him if he could provide us with a patched version which won't
perpetually show the popup "A new version arrived, please update" - which will
be a pain.
If he won't I guess we'll have to find someone who'll install the
old QT and fork 2022.4.1
Maybe you, Macebobo, or me - or someone younger who's got more time than
us (I guess) 
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | macebobo | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 21:16 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 26 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | | | That’s the magic of open source: Not happy with how it goes? You can do it yourself
and you don’t have to start from scratch.
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Guess I know what I am doing later this week, loading the old QT, and forking
Tag v2022.4.1 - that is after those sets I just purchase get parted out.
Good time to dust off the C++ skills as they are a bit crusty.
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I'm exactly in the same position.
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snip...
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Of course I don't think he'll rollback to the Windows 7 compatible version,
or gonna maintain both versions.
But I asked him if he could provide us with a patched version which won't
perpetually show the popup "A new version arrived, please update" - which will
be a pain.
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should be easy, it looks like the flag m_silent in checkforupdate.h can be set
to true and that will cause any update check to stay quiet.
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If he won't I guess we'll have to find someone who'll install the
old QT and fork 2022.4.1
Maybe you, Macebobo, or me - or someone younger who's got more time than
us (I guess)
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I just tried and QT is a pig, took over an hour to install and then failed to
launch, I don't have time to mess with this anymore.
We may have to block the url used to check for an update, I will investigate
this more when time allows.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 21:32 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 31 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| | | should be easy, it looks like the flag m_silent in checkforupdate.h can be set
to true and that will cause any update check to stay quiet.
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Sure - problem isn't (for me) to read a source. To compile is. See what you
tried below...
| | I just tried and QT is a pig, took over an hour to install and then failed to
launch, I don't have time to mess with this anymore.
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^ this
| | We may have to block the url used to check for an update, I will investigate
this more when time allows.
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I thought about this, but then I guess it won't be able to get the database
updates...
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| In Related Software, 1001bricks writes:
| | | | should be easy, it looks like the flag m_silent in checkforupdate.h can be set
to true and that will cause any update check to stay quiet.
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Sure - problem isn't (for me) to read a source. To compile is. See what you
tried below...
| | I just tried and QT is a pig, took over an hour to install and then failed to
launch, I don't have time to mess with this anymore.
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^ this
| | We may have to block the url used to check for an update, I will investigate
this more when time allows.
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I thought about this, but then I guess it won't be able to get the database
updates...
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Two different servers, one on GitHub and db updates from Bricklink, so it will
work. If I didn't use GitHub for my project I could just add an entry to
my hosts file.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 13, 2022 22:39 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| | | | | I thought about this, but then I guess it won't be able to get the database
updates...
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Two different servers, one on GitHub and db updates from Bricklink, so it will
work.
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Oh didn't know, thanks for the info - but a bit too busy right now 
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| | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 00:28 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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Software changes.
MacOS no longer supports 32-bit applications.
So, no LEGO Digital Designer, BrickSmith, LPub, etc.
A lot of LDraw tools are broken.
But Studio is being actively maintained/developed and can do many of the things
those old programs can do and more.
I know many are still using older versions of MacOS/Windows, but maintaining
backward compatibility while updating the software to run on current machines
is challenging. Sacrifices must be made.
That being said, BrickStore is still available for many operating systems (Android,
Debian, iOS, Linux, etc.)
Just not Windows 7.
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| | | | | | | Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 02:27 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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Software changes.
MacOS no longer supports 32-bit applications.
So, no LEGO Digital Designer, BrickSmith, LPub, etc.
A lot of LDraw tools are broken.
But Studio is being actively maintained/developed and can do many of the things
those old programs can do and more.
I know many are still using older versions of MacOS/Windows, but maintaining
backward compatibility while updating the software to run on current machines
is challenging. Sacrifices must be made.
That being said, BrickStore is still available for many operating systems (Android,
Debian, iOS, Linux, etc.)
Just not Windows 7.
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Yeah all 100+ million of us. Poor decision especially as Microsoft are still
supporting Windows 7 (Those that have paid extra to maintain that support). Sounds
fair doesn't it.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | taxan | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 13:18 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | In Related Software, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | NO longer supports windows 7 (all 100 million + of us)
Not the best decision Windows 10 and 11 are two of the most invasive products
Microsoft has ever produced - we won't be changing os just to accommodate
Brickstore
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Software changes.
MacOS no longer supports 32-bit applications.
So, no LEGO Digital Designer, BrickSmith, LPub, etc.
A lot of LDraw tools are broken.
But Studio is being actively maintained/developed and can do many of the things
those old programs can do and more.
I know many are still using older versions of MacOS/Windows, but maintaining
backward compatibility while updating the software to run on current machines
is challenging. Sacrifices must be made.
That being said, BrickStore is still available for many operating systems (Android,
Debian, iOS, Linux, etc.)
Just not Windows 7.
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Yeah all 100+ million of us. Poor decision especially as Microsoft are still
supporting Windows 7 (Those that have paid extra to maintain that support). Sounds
fair doesn't it.
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What is the last stable 32-bit version for windows?
And do any of you know where i can get it?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 17, 2022 13:31 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 65 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| | | What is the last stable 32-bit version for windows?
And do any of you know where i can get it?
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Robert made the 2022.4.2 which doesn't open a popup to update!
For those who doesn't want/can't upgrade their system for now.
(You must be logged in to Github to download)
https://github.com/rgriebl/brickstore/actions/runs/3056502815
32 bits I'm not sure. But check.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | wildchicken13 | | Posted: | Oct 5, 2022 12:06 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | Yeah all 100+ million of us. Poor decision especially as Microsoft are still
supporting Windows 7 (Those that have paid extra to maintain that support). Sounds
fair doesn't it.
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It does, considering that there are 1+ billion people using Windows 10.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Oct 5, 2022 12:30 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 24 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | Yeah all 100+ million of us. Poor decision especially as Microsoft are still
supporting Windows 7 (Those that have paid extra to maintain that support). Sounds
fair doesn't it.
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It does, considering that there are 1+ billion people using Windows 10.
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Yes some of my employees use it but not w11 - I have a special application running
on my machine which will not work on windows 10 so I will stay with 7 as long
as possible (Along with the other part of the 100 million plus.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Oct 5, 2022 13:36 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | Yeah all 100+ million of us. Poor decision especially as Microsoft are still
supporting Windows 7 (Those that have paid extra to maintain that support). Sounds
fair doesn't it.
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It does, considering that there are 1+ billion people using Windows 10.
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My Honor 7 works like a charm for years.
I see zero reason, apart geekness or consumerism, to change for a different one
until it dies.
Don't talk to me about the security FUD; it's just an smart argument
to make you buy.
I'm educated, I've have zero problem/breach.
Many appreciate economy, simplicity and resource management.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Oct 5, 2022 13:38 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 22 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, 1001bricks writes:
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Many appreciate economy, simplicity and resource management.
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With Microsoft  I suppose ‘all is relative’
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Oct 5, 2022 13:42 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 29 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Related Software, 1001bricks writes:
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Many appreciate economy, simplicity and resource management.
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With Microsoft I suppose ‘all is relative’
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Wooooop woooopp - Troll Alert!!!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | legoman77 | | Posted: | Oct 5, 2022 20:37 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, wildchicken13 writes:
| | In Related Software, calsbricks writes:
| | Yeah all 100+ million of us. Poor decision especially as Microsoft are still
supporting Windows 7 (Those that have paid extra to maintain that support). Sounds
fair doesn't it.
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It does, considering that there are 1+ billion people using Windows 10.
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How about those of us using Windows 3.1?
John P
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| | | | | Author: | Sadler_Bricks | | Posted: | Sep 14, 2022 14:48 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| Good thing I dont use either.
Sadler_bricks
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| | | | | Author: | Sadler_Bricks | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2022 12:56 | | Subject: | (Cancelled) | | Viewed: | 27 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| | | | | Author: | Sadler_Bricks | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2022 13:00 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| I wonder if they or someone has a fix for it.
Sadler_bricks
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| | | | | | | Author: | 1001bricks | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2022 13:20 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, Sadler_Bricks writes:
| | I wonder if they or someone has a fix for it.
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No comprendo
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Sep 27, 2022 13:23 | | Subject: | Re: Brickstore latest version warning | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Related Software | |
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| In Related Software, 1001bricks writes:
| | In Related Software, Sadler_Bricks writes:
| | I wonder if they or someone has a fix for it.
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No comprendo
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I’d say the answer is here: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1364795
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| In Related Software, SylvainLS writes:
Oh, he didn't reply to the good post, OK, got it, and yes, I confirm.
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United Kingdom, England
Ireland, Meath
USA, New Jersey
Canada, Ontario
Netherlands, Overijssel
France, Nouvelle-Aquitaine
Sweden, Västernorrland
