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 Author: Dinosaur View Messages Posted By Dinosaur
 Posted: Jul 20, 2022 18:45
 Subject: Couldn't x-ray already help check everything?
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Dinosaur (4)

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Recently I bought a new Lego set and I finally got it, the outer shipping box
was stamped to
tell that it was inspected by the customs. Although it was the first time ever,
I had no surprise. However, the Lego set was also opened and taped with a sticker
by the customs.
I'm really shocked, and unhappy. Do they really need to open my lego set
to check things? Isn't their modern x-ray machine good enough to see if there
is any illegal item inside the Lego box? Does anybody know about their x-ray
machine?
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 20, 2022 19:06
 Subject: Re: Couldn't x-ray already help check everything?
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In General, Dinosaur writes:
  Recently I bought a new Lego set and I finally got it, the outer shipping box
was stamped to
tell that it was inspected by the customs. Although it was the first time ever,
I had no surprise. However, the Lego set was also opened and taped with a sticker
by the customs.
I'm really shocked, and unhappy. Do they really need to open my lego set
to check things? Isn't their modern x-ray machine good enough to see if there
is any illegal item inside the Lego box? Does anybody know about their x-ray
machine?

Plastics are not very specific through X-rays.  It’s all grey and could be anything
organic.

Also, they could have checked it was real LEGO and not counterfeit.

And it’s also often bad luck (random checks, you lose: your package gets checked)
or something wrong or too vague in the paperworks.
 Author: Dinosaur View Messages Posted By Dinosaur
 Posted: Jul 21, 2022 05:19
 Subject: Re: Couldn't x-ray already help check everything?
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In General, SylvainLS writes:
  In General, Dinosaur writes:
  Recently I bought a new Lego set and I finally got it, the outer shipping box
was stamped to
tell that it was inspected by the customs. Although it was the first time ever,
I had no surprise. However, the Lego set was also opened and taped with a sticker
by the customs.
I'm really shocked, and unhappy. Do they really need to open my lego set
to check things? Isn't their modern x-ray machine good enough to see if there
is any illegal item inside the Lego box? Does anybody know about their x-ray
machine?

Plastics are not very specific through X-rays.  It’s all grey and could be anything
organic.

Also, they could have checked it was real LEGO and not counterfeit.

And it’s also often bad luck (random checks, you lose: your package gets checked)
or something wrong or too vague in the paperworks.


Is Lego brick organic????? I'm not a Chemistry guy but I believe that it's
more likely to
be inorganic because plastic is usually non-biodegradable but organic should
be biodegradable... I'm not very sure though.
 Author: novabrick View Messages Posted By novabrick
 Posted: Jul 21, 2022 05:32
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From a chemical standpoint everything containing Carbon in it's molecules
is considered Organic.

Since we have loads of plastic floating in the oceans it's safe to say that
this doesn't mean it's biodegradable. Or at least easily Biodegradable.

Here's a Forum post about the Plastic types used in LEGO:
https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1341993

Christian

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In General, Dinosaur writes:
  Is Lego brick organic????? I'm not a Chemistry guy but I believe that it's
more likely to
be inorganic because plastic is usually non-biodegradable but organic should
be biodegradable... I'm not very sure though.
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
 Posted: Jul 21, 2022 10:10
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In General, novabrick writes:
  From a chemical standpoint everything containing Carbon in it's molecules
is considered Organic.

Yep, I also didn’t mean it was ‘growned in an environment free of artificial
agrichemicals’ (as per the definition in wiktionary for that marketing term)


(Be thankful I don’t speak like an astrophysicist: for them everything that’s
not H or He is a metal )


  Since we have loads of plastic floating in the oceans it's safe to say that
this doesn't mean it's biodegradable. Or at least easily Biodegradable.

And since they are ‘floating’ slightly under the surface, that means their density
is about the same as sea water.
So they look like a lot of things on scanners (X-ray or others).

There’s two things you can see on a scanner: the material (roughly: metal / ‘organic’
/ ‘nothing’) and the shape.
And the shape of bags of unsorted bricks isn’t really telling.
 Author: miskox View Messages Posted By miskox
 Posted: Jul 21, 2022 06:37
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In General, Dinosaur writes:
  Recently I bought a new Lego set and I finally got it, the outer shipping box
was stamped to
tell that it was inspected by the customs. Although it was the first time ever,
I had no surprise. However, the Lego set was also opened and taped with a sticker
by the customs.
I'm really shocked, and unhappy. Do they really need to open my lego set
to check things? Isn't their modern x-ray machine good enough to see if there
is any illegal item inside the Lego box? Does anybody know about their x-ray
machine?

I usually wrote to the box: "contact addressee before opening the box". Or
something like that if I shipped sealed box. But I am not sure if this helped.
And I never write "LEGO" on the CN22/CN23 customs form. Only 'plastic toy'
or something like this.

Saso
 Author: Dinosaur View Messages Posted By Dinosaur
 Posted: Aug 7, 2022 08:36
 Subject: Re: Couldn't x-ray already help check everything?
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In General, miskox writes:
  In General, Dinosaur writes:
  Recently I bought a new Lego set and I finally got it, the outer shipping box
was stamped to
tell that it was inspected by the customs. Although it was the first time ever,
I had no surprise. However, the Lego set was also opened and taped with a sticker
by the customs.
I'm really shocked, and unhappy. Do they really need to open my lego set
to check things? Isn't their modern x-ray machine good enough to see if there
is any illegal item inside the Lego box? Does anybody know about their x-ray
machine?

I usually wrote to the box: "contact addressee before opening the box". Or
something like that if I shipped sealed box. But I am not sure if this helped.
And I never write "LEGO" on the CN22/CN23 customs form. Only 'plastic toy'
or something like this.

Saso

Theoretically speaking, any customs has rights to open any package. What is the
point of writing that line of words? Any verbal explanation on the phone without
opening the box has no logical indication of what's inside.