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 Author: legomaniac1027 View Messages Posted By legomaniac1027
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legomaniac1027 (833)

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I just added many new droid figures to my store including medical droids,
general grievous, super battle droids and many more! Tactical
droid
soon to be added! Come take a look. Letter mail shipping is $2.80
CAD
for Canadian buyers and $3.70 USD for US buyers.

https://store.bricklink.com/legomaniac1027&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22itemType%22:%22M%22,%22showHomeItems%22:0}
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 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Sales, legomaniac1027 writes:
  I just added many new droid figures to my store including medical droids,
general grievous, super battle droids and many more! Tactical
droid
soon to be added! Come take a look. Letter mail shipping is $2.80
CAD
for Canadian buyers and $3.70 USD for US buyers.

https://store.bricklink.com/legomaniac1027&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22itemType%22:%22M%22,%22showHomeItems%22:0}

Nice!

But excuse me, but IMO, the Minifigs you sell New "Only displayed" aren't
technically New.

I would also sell them Used because their color/aspect may have changed.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=condition

Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased "as
new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been handled
only for sorting.

Used but described "Condition just like brand new!" would sell well I guess.
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
 Posted: Mar 29, 2022 00:12
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In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  In Sales, legomaniac1027 writes:
  I just added many new droid figures to my store including medical droids,
general grievous, super battle droids and many more! Tactical
droid
soon to be added! Come take a look. Letter mail shipping is $2.80
CAD
for Canadian buyers and $3.70 USD for US buyers.

https://store.bricklink.com/legomaniac1027&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22itemType%22:%22M%22,%22showHomeItems%22:0}

Nice!

But excuse me, but IMO, the Minifigs you sell New "Only displayed" aren't
technically New.

I would also sell them Used because their color/aspect may have changed.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=condition

Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased "as
new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been handled
only for sorting.

Used but described "Condition just like brand new!" would sell well I guess.

You did leave out a key part to the block that you copied:

New Minifigures - Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or
were purchased "as new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick
and have been handled only for sorting. Minifigures may be listed as new either
assembled or unassembled
.

As long has they have not been assembled, disassembled and the reassembled, they
in theory are still able to be sold as new. For me, I would sell them as used
for the reason that they could have had color fading due to light exposure or
other, but by rule I think it is still technically allowed.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
 Posted: Mar 29, 2022 09:53
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  As long has they have not been assembled, disassembled and the reassembled, they
in theory are still able to be sold as new. For me, I would sell them as used
for the reason that they could have had color fading due to light exposure or
other, but by rule I think it is still technically allowed.

That's not the point, you can assemble them, yes, but for sorting (or inventorying
them in your shop).

NOT for displaying them in a nice plexiglas box while they're sold.

"have been handled only for sorting."
 Author: psusaxman2000 View Messages Posted By psusaxman2000
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In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  
  As long has they have not been assembled, disassembled and the reassembled, they
in theory are still able to be sold as new. For me, I would sell them as used
for the reason that they could have had color fading due to light exposure or
other, but by rule I think it is still technically allowed.

That's not the point, you can assemble them, yes, but for sorting (or inventorying
them in your shop).

NOT for displaying them in a nice plexiglas box while they're sold.

"have been handled only for sorting."

So for those that have a brick and mortar store that get all their figs from
new sealed sets, assemble them and put them in a display case for retail (and
also have their BL store tied in) you would sell these as Used?

All I'm saying is that by rule I don't think they are doing anything
wrong and that if I were going to buy from them, that would be my question.
As for myself, I mainly resell bulk purchases or personnel sets that have otherwise
been displayed for my own personal benefit and would definitely not fit the "new"
criteria for myself.
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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In Sales, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  
  As long has they have not been assembled, disassembled and the reassembled, they
in theory are still able to be sold as new. For me, I would sell them as used
for the reason that they could have had color fading due to light exposure or
other, but by rule I think it is still technically allowed.

That's not the point, you can assemble them, yes, but for sorting (or inventorying
them in your shop).

NOT for displaying them in a nice plexiglas box while they're sold.

"have been handled only for sorting."

So for those that have a brick and mortar store that get all their figs from
new sealed sets, assemble them and put them in a display case for retail (and
also have their BL store tied in) you would sell these as Used?


Yes: sorry but assembling for the purpose of displaying isn't the same as
assembling for the purpose of selling (and generally kindly put in a zip bag).

All in all, I don't agree with (and don't comprehend) this rule as "Assembled
= New" (of course, if the Minfigure wasn't assembled by LEGO when delivered).
 Author: DadanEvie View Messages Posted By DadanEvie
 Posted: Mar 31, 2022 21:55
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In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  In Sales, psusaxman2000 writes:
  In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  
  As long has they have not been assembled, disassembled and the reassembled, they
in theory are still able to be sold as new. For me, I would sell them as used
for the reason that they could have had color fading due to light exposure or
other, but by rule I think it is still technically allowed.

That's not the point, you can assemble them, yes, but for sorting (or inventorying
them in your shop).

NOT for displaying them in a nice plexiglas box while they're sold.

"have been handled only for sorting."

So for those that have a brick and mortar store that get all their figs from
new sealed sets, assemble them and put them in a display case for retail (and
also have their BL store tied in) you would sell these as Used?


Yes: sorry but assembling for the purpose of displaying isn't the same as
assembling for the purpose of selling (and generally kindly put in a zip bag).

All in all, I don't agree with (and don't comprehend) this rule as "Assembled
= New" (of course, if the Minfigure wasn't assembled by LEGO when delivered).


Simply put, if a LEGO set (or a puzzle, or a car model kit, etc) has been assembled
by anyone other than the manufacturer, no matter the reason, it is no longer
new. Why would it be different for minifigures that also come unassembled? If
you need to build them to display them in a storefront, have at 'er, but
don't call 'em new; otherwise you're saying it's ok to assemble+display
for retail purposes, but not ok for personal purposes...
 Author: yorbrick View Messages Posted By yorbrick
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In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  In Sales, legomaniac1027 writes:
  I just added many new droid figures to my store including medical droids,
general grievous, super battle droids and many more! Tactical
droid
soon to be added! Come take a look. Letter mail shipping is $2.80
CAD
for Canadian buyers and $3.70 USD for US buyers.

https://store.bricklink.com/legomaniac1027&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22itemType%22:%22M%22,%22showHomeItems%22:0}

Nice!

But excuse me, but IMO, the Minifigs you sell New "Only displayed" aren't
technically New.

I would also sell them Used because their color/aspect may have changed.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=condition

Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased "as
new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been handled
only for sorting.

Used but described "Condition just like brand new!" would sell well I guess.


Although if you report a store that sells built and displayed figures as new
you get an email from admin saying that while they are borderline and problematic,
bricklink will not remove them. Things may have changed in the couple of years
since I reported any like that, but the public rules haven't been updated.
 Author: Grego View Messages Posted By Grego
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In Sales, yorbrick writes:
  In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  In Sales, legomaniac1027 writes:
  I just added many new droid figures to my store including medical droids,
general grievous, super battle droids and many more! Tactical
droid
soon to be added! Come take a look. Letter mail shipping is $2.80
CAD
for Canadian buyers and $3.70 USD for US buyers.

https://store.bricklink.com/legomaniac1027&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22itemType%22:%22M%22,%22showHomeItems%22:0}

Nice!

But excuse me, but IMO, the Minifigs you sell New "Only displayed" aren't
technically New.

I would also sell them Used because their color/aspect may have changed.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=condition

Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased "as
new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been handled
only for sorting.

Used but described "Condition just like brand new!" would sell well I guess.


Although if you report a store that sells built and displayed figures as new
you get an email from admin saying that while they are borderline and problematic,
bricklink will not remove them. Things may have changed in the couple of years
since I reported any like that, but the public rules haven't been updated.

So dusty, sun faded figs that have been on display for years are new and therefore
need no disclaimer as to condition since they are new? ...Yuck
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In Sales, Grego writes:
  In Sales, yorbrick writes:
  In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  In Sales, legomaniac1027 writes:
  I just added many new droid figures to my store including medical droids,
general grievous, super battle droids and many more! Tactical
droid
soon to be added! Come take a look. Letter mail shipping is $2.80
CAD
for Canadian buyers and $3.70 USD for US buyers.

https://store.bricklink.com/legomaniac1027&utm_content=globalnav#/shop?o={%22sort%22:9,%22desc%22:1,%22itemType%22:%22M%22,%22showHomeItems%22:0}

Nice!

But excuse me, but IMO, the Minifigs you sell New "Only displayed" aren't
technically New.

I would also sell them Used because their color/aspect may have changed.

https://www.bricklink.com/help.asp?helpID=102&q=condition

Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased "as
new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been handled
only for sorting.

Used but described "Condition just like brand new!" would sell well I guess.


Although if you report a store that sells built and displayed figures as new
you get an email from admin saying that while they are borderline and problematic,
bricklink will not remove them. Things may have changed in the couple of years
since I reported any like that, but the public rules haven't been updated.

So dusty, sun faded figs that have been on display for years are new and therefore
need no disclaimer as to condition since they are new? ...Yuck

Personally, I wouldn't list them that way. But would they be removed if reported,
who knows? It depends if BL admins still think assembled and displayed figures
are borderline and leave them or whether they now do something about it. I
no longer bother reporting any like that if I see them, I just least favourite
the store.
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  Minifigures are brand new, taken directly from new sets or were purchased "as
new" in another form such as accessory packs or Pick A Brick and have been handled
only for sorting.

Used but described "Condition just like brand new!" would sell well I guess.

Although if you report a store that sells built and displayed figures as new
you get an email from admin saying that while they are borderline and problematic,
bricklink will not remove them. Things may have changed in the couple of years
since I reported any like that, but the public rules haven't been updated.

I didn't report, just kindly signaled this to the OP.

I also wanted to mean that I personnaly wouldn't buy and Minfigure in this
Shop due to this "trickery" on the Condition.

While this - I would be also VERY happy if BrickLink would force Minifigures
listing to be clearly detailed as "Assembled" or "Never assembled".

I should make a Suggestion of this...
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While this - I would be also VERY happy if BrickLink would force Minifigures
listing to be clearly detailed as "Assembled" or "Never assembled".

I should make a Suggestion of this...

I think it has been suggested before. It would be useful for avoiding stores
that build them before selling.
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In Sales, yorbrick writes:
  
  
While this - I would be also VERY happy if BrickLink would force Minifigures
listing to be clearly detailed as "Assembled" or "Never assembled".

I should make a Suggestion of this...

I think it has been suggested before. It would be useful for avoiding stores
that build them before selling.

|So is there a problem with assembling new figures and bagging them before selling
if you state it in your terms?

Some figures have add-ons like jetpacks etc. making it hard to build the figure
without the original instructions.
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In Sales, RealBrix writes:
  In Sales, yorbrick writes:
  
  
While this - I would be also VERY happy if BrickLink would force Minifigures
listing to be clearly detailed as "Assembled" or "Never assembled".

I should make a Suggestion of this...

I think it has been suggested before. It would be useful for avoiding stores
that build them before selling.

|So is there a problem with assembling new figures and bagging them before selling
if you state it in your terms?


Personnaly, I hate it when sellers "play" with the items I bought.

Like assembling bricks - or Plates!!! - for "safer shipment" or "save space",
or assemble Minifigures.

The manufacturer provides them unassembled, please do the same.
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  The manufacturer provides them unassembled, please do the same.

I meant: for New items, of course.
Used is another thing...
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In Sales, 1001bricks writes:
  In Sales, RealBrix writes:
  In Sales, yorbrick writes:
  
  
While this - I would be also VERY happy if BrickLink would force Minifigures
listing to be clearly detailed as "Assembled" or "Never assembled".

I should make a Suggestion of this...

I think it has been suggested before. It would be useful for avoiding stores
that build them before selling.

|So is there a problem with assembling new figures and bagging them before selling
if you state it in your terms?


Personnaly, I hate it when sellers "play" with the items I bought.

Like assembling bricks - or Plates!!! - for "safer shipment" or "save space",
or assemble Minifigures.

The manufacturer provides them unassembled, please do the same.

This whole thread comes off as pretty obsessive. A figure that's sun damaged
isn't going to be listed as new. A figure that was pulled from a set and
stored behind plexiglass in someone's basement is no different from one put
in a ziplock bag. I'd also argue a figure that isn't assembled is just
parts.

Regardless of any semantics though, you realize that the parts are more likely
to suffer damage if they're shipped/stored taken apart, right? Unless you
individually bag each part of a figure (which would be ridiculous and wasteful),
the parts rub against each other creating micro scratches. What is the reasoning
for not wanting the figure shipped assembled? Are you not planning on ever having
it put together?
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  This whole thread comes off as pretty obsessive. A figure that's sun damaged
isn't going to be listed as new. A figure that was pulled from a set and
stored behind plexiglass in someone's basement is no different from one put
in a ziplock bag. I'd also argue a figure that isn't assembled is just
parts.

Regardless of any semantics though, you realize that the parts are more likely
to suffer damage if they're shipped/stored taken apart, right? Unless you
individually bag each part of a figure (which would be ridiculous and wasteful),
the parts rub against each other creating micro scratches. What is the reasoning
for not wanting the figure shipped assembled? Are you not planning on ever having
it put together?

Ones displayed are often stood on plates or stands, might have been posed
rotating arms and hands, or have a weapon or accessory attached. They are used,
just like new parts that you use carefully once are used even if they still look
new.

If you put a cape on a figure, it becomes damaged. Some colour older parts from
~2012 may be made of the more fragile plastic and crack because they have been
assembled and bagged for 10 years, even if not used. The seller is unlikely to
open a bagged built figure to check things like that before sending, knowing
it was new when bagged. Some minifig parts are officially bagged, there is no
need to open those bags to build a figure for storage. In sets (and CMFs) parts
are bagged together so a seller bagging them together is no different. Also sometimes
I buy figures for a couple of parts then sell the bits I don't want. If they
are assembled by the seller, then I cannot sell the unwanted parts as new parts.

I don't really have a problem so long as sellers say they have assembled
them preferably in the listing or ortherwise in the terms, or highlight they
do it here, since I can least favourite the store and it becomes a non-issue.