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 Author: gumby View Messages Posted By gumby
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gumby (428)

Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.
 Author: calebfishn View Messages Posted By calebfishn
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In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

1. Don't pack the order until it's paid for.
2. Take photographs at various stages of packing, with identifying information
as to date, invoice number, etc.
3. Use a shipping method that has insurance. If necessary pay for the insurance
yourself.
4. Use a shipping method that as delivery confirmation.
5. Use Paypal.
 Author: gumby View Messages Posted By gumby
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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In Help, calebfishn writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

1. Don't pack the order until it's paid for.
2. Take photographs at various stages of packing, with identifying information
as to date, invoice number, etc.
3. Use a shipping method that has insurance. If necessary pay for the insurance
yourself.
4. Use a shipping method that as delivery confirmation.
5. Use Paypal.

Thanks! Re-opened my store after many years to sell off some extra sets I have
accumulated, so I'm out of touch with the current seller's scene.
 Author: infinibrix View Messages Posted By infinibrix
 Posted: Feb 6, 2022 19:35
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In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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SezaR (1383)

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In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Very true!

Also, I did not find cheap shipping methods to Russia that comes with tracking
so I don't ship to Russia.
 Author: gumby View Messages Posted By gumby
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In Help, SezaR writes:
  In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Very true!

Also, I did not find cheap shipping methods to Russia that comes with tracking
so I don't ship to Russia.

True, sending this order to Russia with tracking will cost over US$300!
 Author: gumby View Messages Posted By gumby
 Posted: Feb 7, 2022 00:55
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Location:  Canada, British Columbia
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In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Thanks, that sounds like a reasonable approach as well. We all started with 0
feedback at one point.
 Author: Grego View Messages Posted By Grego
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In Help, gumby writes:
  In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Thanks, that sounds like a reasonable approach as well. We all started with 0
feedback at one point.

We may have all started with 0 feedback, but most of us didn't place a high
dollar order as the first one. This order would make me nervous as in order to
be covered, you really need to send with tracking, and most buyers aren't
going to want to pay that ...unless it contains rare items not found locally.

You can take all the photos you want ...complete with an entire detachment of
RCMPs watching you pick every piece, pack the parcel and send it off to Russia
(with Love) at the Post Office. But if you don't send it with tracking, PayPal
won't care. No tracking = no coverage.

And yes, I have shipped to Russia but it was a rare set and the buyer did pay
for tracking. Just not worth the risk ..especially with a zero FB buyer.
 Author: legoman77 View Messages Posted By legoman77
 Posted: Feb 7, 2022 02:28
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In Help, gumby writes:
  In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Thanks, that sounds like a reasonable approach as well. We all started with 0
feedback at one point.

It still goes back to what I have said many times; no should be allowed to buy
or sell until they have a feedback rating of 5 positives. That would prevent
a lot of problems.

John P
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In Help, legoman77 writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Thanks, that sounds like a reasonable approach as well. We all started with 0
feedback at one point.

It still goes back to what I have said many times; no should be allowed to buy
or sell until they have a feedback rating of 5 positives. That would prevent
a lot of problems.

John P

And how do you get a feedback rating of 5 positives if you are not allowed to
buy or sell?
 Author: SezaR View Messages Posted By SezaR
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In Help, LeeGo73 writes:
  In Help, legoman77 writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  In Help, infinibrix writes:
  In Help, gumby writes:
  I am located in Canada, and I just received a US$350 order from someone with
0 feedback. They are also located in Russia, so shipping will be slow and expensive.
What steps could I take to protect myself from fraud? Thanks.

Its always worth engaging in some non-essential conversation with them about
their order/shipping options etc... even if that means you have to stretch to
a bit of small talk about how they came to find Bricklink. How they communicate
and conduct themselves may just give you the added reasurance your looking for.
Also if you get off to a good rapport to begin with the transaction is likely
to end much the same way!

Thanks, that sounds like a reasonable approach as well. We all started with 0
feedback at one point.

It still goes back to what I have said many times; no should be allowed to buy
or sell until they have a feedback rating of 5 positives. That would prevent
a lot of problems.

John P

And how do you get a feedback rating of 5 positives if you are not allowed to
buy or sell?

All you need is a little bit of sarcasm!
 Author: 1001bricks View Messages Posted By 1001bricks
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  It still goes back to what I have said many times; no should be allowed to buy
or sell until they have a feedback rating of 5 positives. That would prevent
a lot of problems.

John P

And how do you get a feedback rating of 5 positives if you are not allowed to
buy or sell?

All you need is a little bit of sarcasm!

And everybody knows that John is full of s. !
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  It still goes back to what I have said many times; no should be allowed to buy
or sell until they have a feedback rating of 5 positives. That would prevent
a lot of problems.

Yeah, but not problem if you've 5 friends!
Wait... who has this number of friends, I don't
But I've 5+ cats, would this help?

Sylvain
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In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  
  It still goes back to what I have said many times; no should be allowed to buy
or sell until they have a feedback rating of 5 positives. That would prevent
a lot of problems.

Yeah, but not problem if you've 5 friends!
Wait... who has this number of friends, I don't
But I've 5+ cats, would this help?

Sylvain

I did not know you had 5 cats. I have 6 indoors and 4 regular outside cats and
found another yesterday who gets a trip to the vet today, a black 5-6 months
old, for shots and blood and poop tests and snip snip. Not sure what we are
going to do with this one. Then we have a family in the back, mother and 4 kittens.
She took up residency in out pool cover so we cannot have the pool cleaned until
they leave.
It is so good to see you back Sylvain. I am glad you are back on the forum.
You do get sarcasm, some do not. And your posts are always apropos.
John P
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  Yeah, but not problem if you've 5 friends!
Wait... who has this number of friends, I don't
But I've 5+ cats, would this help?

Sylvain

I did not know you had 5 cats.

Saï Saï, Björk, Forrest, Nouba, Chat Gris (dead recently), outside: Chagall and
Chatila.

Björk is a guy in fact - he spot us with his brother Forrest - and he was really
asking to be helped (were starving) with an ultra strange miew sound... hence
the Björk name


  I have 6 indoors and 4 regular outside cats and
found another yesterday who gets a trip to the vet today, a black 5-6 months
old, for shots and blood and poop tests and snip snip. Not sure what we are
going to do with this one. Then we have a family in the back, mother and 4 kittens.
She took up residency in out pool cover so we cannot have the pool cleaned until
they leave.

Ah yes, it seems they do know when they've found a good place, it's unbelievable.

I'm still puzzled by how much they can think and express their personnality
and needs with only a brain the size of a walnut...


  It is so good to see you back Sylvain. I am glad you are back on the forum.
You do get sarcasm, some do not. And your posts are always apropos.

Oh Lord. OK then, John.
Please never be missed.

Sylvain
 Author: SylvainLS View Messages Posted By SylvainLS
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Ah yes, it seems they do know when they've found a good place, it's unbelievable.

They just got you (both) well trained


“Cats are lazybones.  All they do is play table-football with they pals while
smoking pot and driking all day long.  If they weren’t, they’d move their small
butt and go get themselves a job to buy their own food!” — Comité Contre les
Chats

(For those who wouldn’t get it: this is a joke, an old French reference.)
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In Help, SylvainLS writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Ah yes, it seems they do know when they've found a good place, it's unbelievable.

They just got you (both) well trained

“Cats are lazybones.  All they do is play table-football with they pals while
smoking pot and driking all day long.  If they weren’t, they’d move their small
butt and go get themselves a job to buy their own food!” — Comité Contre les
Chats

I know you're jealous Sylvain, but it's not your fault.
I even have some empathy for you; maybe it's due to the firstname? I don't
know.

Please take care of you.

Sylvain
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In Help, SylvainLS writes:
  In Help, 1001bricks writes:
  […]
Ah yes, it seems they do know when they've found a good place, it's unbelievable.

They just got you (both) well trained


“Cats are lazybones.  All they do is play table-football with they pals while
smoking pot and driking all day long.  If they weren’t, they’d move their small
butt and go get themselves a job to buy their own food!” — Comité Contre les
Chats

(For those who wouldn’t get it: this is a joke, an old French reference.)

Just got back from vet with new kitty - now it is a she. So her name is Princess
Victoria or Vicky for short. My wife teaches British Literature. Even though
we won the war with Britain, actually twice, (Let's Go Washington) I really
like the British (not the royals.) I want to send my wife to the UK to teach
them proper English. They always seem to need help there. (But Tennyson is my
favorite poet. Sorry Dickinson.
Oh, Cats names: Sammi, Katie, Maggie, Mindy, Pepper, Abby, outside front porch:
Momma, Mickey, Socks, S*** Head, Back atio: Lilly, Vanilla, Little Lilly, Little
Vanilla and no name Vanilla.
I know TMI.

John P
 










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How Beautiful John!


My husband was "against" having an orange cat, so I've ended up with a Black
one with a white blaze and a quite strikingly beautiful Tabby.

The black one will fetch balls like a dog for 15 mins at a time, brings them
right to you. The other one is equally high energy. They both steal items, knock
things over, parkour the whole house.

I'm used to "typical" cats. These two have been quite the adjustment.
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  Just got back from vet with new kitty - now it is a she.

I guess and hope you've a VIP pricing there


  So her name is Princess
Victoria or Vicky for short. My wife teaches British Literature. Even though
we won the war with Britain, actually twice, (Let's Go Washington) I really
like the British (not the royals.) I want to send my wife to the UK to teach
them proper English. They always seem to need help there. (But Tennyson is my
favorite poet. Sorry Dickinson.

I'm more the Monthy Python and Muppets Show British fan, sorry.
Terry Gilliam (former US I think?) work is a reference here, for me anyway!


  Oh, Cats names: Sammi, Katie, Maggie, Mindy, Pepper, Abby, outside front porch:
Momma, Mickey, Socks, S*** Head, Back atio: Lilly, Vanilla, Little Lilly, Little
Vanilla and no name Vanilla.

I guess you also have to discuss your own place in the bed?

Here it's fights and compromises every night.
We'd to train them not to bother the Shop stock, for obvious reasons, this
is acquired. But in exchange they mess up our beds

I'm not sure about the stuffed toys I can see on yours - this seems crazy
while having also so many hairy toys...

Anyway, they're all wonderful, thanks for the pics - the white and grey outside
is a solid beast.


  I know TMI.

I don't know, but TMC maybe

Sylvain
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BTW, maybe you haven't been warned?
 
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In Help, 1001bricks writes:
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That is really cute.
John P
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I am new, 0 feedback and l bought many things, too, but as my paypal was received,
no problem beyong a long wait for arrival... I didnt trust paypal before, noe
I realize it's helpful in those cases. Thank you