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| | | Author: | Stuart9  | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 15:52 | | Subject: | Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 201 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
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Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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| | | | | Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:11 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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We used to sell to the world!, but now only the UK. Yes, the number of orders
go down obviously, but gives you more time to do other things that are just as
important in your life.
SB
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:16 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Thanks, I’m approaching retirement and currently not working.
Looking to how I can have some income in the near future and on through retirement,
I believe UK sales may be enough for me if I get it right.
In Selling, SimplyBricks writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
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Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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We used to sell to the world!, but now only the UK. Yes, the number of orders
go down obviously, but gives you more time to do other things that are just as
important in your life.
SB
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:18 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | If it's any use, I had my 70th a couple of months ago, still here! |
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:21 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Fantastic to hear that, hope to follow in your footsteps, 64 this year.
Just moved to Cornwall where my wife and I have wanted to be for decades, finally
made the jump, hence not employed at present.
In Selling, SimplyBricks writes:
| | If it's any use, I had my 70th a couple of months ago, still here!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SimplyBricks | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:23 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| | You could buy yourself a caravan, set it up in your garden, and rent it out! |
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:26 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Garden too small like many Cornish properties but nice idea, anyone fancy renting
a shed for the summer, planning an office style garden shed very soon ? 
In Selling, SimplyBricks writes:
| | You could buy yourself a caravan, set it up in your garden, and rent it out!
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:24 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 56 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
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Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
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You’re not.
| | No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
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It’s not with VAT officials you’ll have trouble with, but it might be with unhappy
buyers (though there’s nothing you can do about it).
| | Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
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Well, there’s been a few less messages about “double VATing”… but that maybe
because people stopped buying below €150.
I hope things will settle (or that it’ll be easier for buyers to challenge and
get back the doubled VAT).
| | My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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Yep, above €150 for EU, and anything for the other countries.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:28 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Cheers, appreciate that, need to rework my terms and setup before I reopen.
In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
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Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
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You’re not.
| | No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
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It’s not with VAT officials you’ll have trouble with, but it might be with unhappy
buyers (though there’s nothing you can do about it).
| | Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
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Well, there’s been a few less messages about “double VATing”… but that maybe
because people stopped buying below €150.
I hope things will settle (or that it’ll be easier for buyers to challenge and
get back the doubled VAT).
| | My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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Yep, above €150 for EU, and anything for the other countries.
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| | | | | Author: | Chickaroo | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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I closed my store at the start of the pandemic and reopened to UK only, mid last
year.
Initially I wanted to try and get my head around the rules (I’m still yet to
make head or tail of them) but at the moment I’m plodding along quite happily
on just UK sales.
It’s definitely less busy than I’m used to and I’m gutted to not be selling to
my regular customers outside the UK, but I did what I felt was best for my customer
service.
Life didn’t quite take the course I was expecting while I was closed so reopening
to UK only at the moment for me has worked well.
Roo
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 16:44 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 53 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Thank you, hope things eventually work out for you.
In Selling, Chickaroo writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
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Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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I closed my store at the start of the pandemic and reopened to UK only, mid last
year.
Initially I wanted to try and get my head around the rules (I’m still yet to
make head or tail of them) but at the moment I’m plodding along quite happily
on just UK sales.
It’s definitely less busy than I’m used to and I’m gutted to not be selling to
my regular customers outside the UK, but I did what I felt was best for my customer
service.
Life didn’t quite take the course I was expecting while I was closed so reopening
to UK only at the moment for me has worked well.
Roo
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| | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 17:00 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| I stopped doing international at the start of covid and didn't start again.
I never had that many overseas sales anyway, but have had probably 15 or so questions
in the past year asking if I'd ship, mainly to Germany and Holland. That
was mainly my personal vintage stuff (pirates, islanders, castle) and it sold
to UK buyers soon after any way so probably no loss. Decent items at decent prices
will sell, just slower if the audience is smaller. UK postage is a lot less hassle
too.
I allow GSP on ebay, and a lot of my personal vintage stuff I've had for
years goes to Germany that way but with the ease of UK postage.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 17:15 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Thanks, looks like it’s working for many, I’m not looking to earn a living at
this, that’s for the big boys.
In Selling, yorbrick writes:
| | I stopped doing international at the start of covid and didn't start again.
I never had that many overseas sales anyway, but have had probably 15 or so questions
in the past year asking if I'd ship, mainly to Germany and Holland. That
was mainly my personal vintage stuff (pirates, islanders, castle) and it sold
to UK buyers soon after any way so probably no loss. Decent items at decent prices
will sell, just slower if the audience is smaller. UK postage is a lot less hassle
too.
I allow GSP on ebay, and a lot of my personal vintage stuff I've had for
years goes to Germany that way but with the ease of UK postage.
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| | | | | Author: | WhiteHorseMatt | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 17:12 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 44 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Stopped posting overseas at the start of Covid.
The increased risk of delays and loss has not encouraged me to start back up
again.
It's a pity as about 25% of my sales were overseas and I enjoyed posting
out to new countries.
The other issue of course is Brexit. Given my average transaction is quite low,
I can't see many eurozone buyers wanting to pay higher postage costs plus
VAT plus admin fees for a few £ of bricks. Even given this, the extra paperwork
now needed puts me off.
I do consider reopening to international buyers from time to time, but at the
moment I don't think it is worth the worry and the time.
Matt
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 17:19 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| The paperwork is a complete no no for me, I don’t want to spend more and more
time on admin, takes the fun out of what I do here.
Once ran an angling club ( club secretary ) for over ten years, I ended up doing
more admin than fishing, ruined the whole experience.
In Selling, WhiteHorseMatt writes:
| | Stopped posting overseas at the start of Covid.
The increased risk of delays and loss has not encouraged me to start back up
again.
It's a pity as about 25% of my sales were overseas and I enjoyed posting
out to new countries.
The other issue of course is Brexit. Given my average transaction is quite low,
I can't see many eurozone buyers wanting to pay higher postage costs plus
VAT plus admin fees for a few £ of bricks. Even given this, the extra paperwork
now needed puts me off.
I do consider reopening to international buyers from time to time, but at the
moment I don't think it is worth the worry and the time.
Matt
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 17:22 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
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Once ran an angling club ( club secretary ) for over ten years, I ended up doing
more admin than fishing, ruined the whole experience.
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Ah, that kind of “angling,” not this one: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1320374
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 3, 2022 17:46 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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Did read that string for awhile, then I gave up.
I won’t make any comparisons with waiting for a bite whilst fishing.
In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
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Once ran an angling club ( club secretary ) for over ten years, I ended up doing
more admin than fishing, ruined the whole experience.
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Ah, that kind of “angling,” not this one: https://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=1320374
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| | | | | Author: | BrickCompulsion | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 05:47 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 57 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Hi
Hope Cornwall is working out for you I would move down there tomorrow but
the wife has other ideas ha ha!
I stopped selling overseas when covid and brexit occurred with the intention
of letting everything calm down and to let me get my head round the new rules
etc. I still read about many issues and have taken the view that I shall remain
as just UK only as I still read about people with issues. The extra expense and
hassle if I make a mistake sending an order with a missing or wrong part or something
just seems to make it feel as if it wont be worth it.
Its a shame as I dont buy from overseas either now
Admittedly some of it is because my day job is keeping me very busy indeed so
I havent had my shop open much lately anyway but hopefully this will change in
the coming weeks
Regarding the garden office - have a look at Oakwood Garden Rooms on youtube.
Really great set of videos from a very helpful tradesman if you fancy having
a go at doing it yourself. I am halfway through building one myself !
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 08:23 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Thanks for your comments on selling in the UK.
I’ll check out the video’s and your suggestions on the garden office, not sure
I’m geared up for it but you never know.
In Selling, BrickCompulsion writes:
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Hope Cornwall is working out for you I would move down there tomorrow but
the wife has other ideas ha ha!
I stopped selling overseas when covid and brexit occurred with the intention
of letting everything calm down and to let me get my head round the new rules
etc. I still read about many issues and have taken the view that I shall remain
as just UK only as I still read about people with issues. The extra expense and
hassle if I make a mistake sending an order with a missing or wrong part or something
just seems to make it feel as if it wont be worth it.
Its a shame as I dont buy from overseas either now
Admittedly some of it is because my day job is keeping me very busy indeed so
I havent had my shop open much lately anyway but hopefully this will change in
the coming weeks
Regarding the garden office - have a look at Oakwood Garden Rooms on youtube.
Really great set of videos from a very helpful tradesman if you fancy having
a go at doing it yourself. I am halfway through building one myself !
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| | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 07:20 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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If it's any consolation I do this for a living and yet even I have not found
the inclination to jump back on the wagon of attempting to sell to Europe again.
The extra complications with regards to VAT paper work and the uncertainty of
potentially ending up with disgruntled buyers is of enough concern to me to hold
off selling to Europe for the time being however I do still sell to a few other
countries such as USA, Canada, Australia etc... and would recomend for others
to do the same as nothing has changed in that regards and if anything business
from those countries has actually improved as they are facing the same challenges
when it comes to importing from Europe as us
I also use very small mail bags and so when it comes to sticking the CN22 labels
I only have the very top third of the label showing on the front of the package
and anything below the address part gets folded to the back of the jiffy bag
and for simplicity I actually just use small stamps for the most part as its
just so much quicker and simpler but of course also riskier when it comes to
potential losses
Oh and any free time not doing this is also spent trying to fit in some fishing!
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| | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 08:08 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 37 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, infinibrix writes:
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such as USA, Canada, Australia etc... and would recomend for others
to do the same as nothing has changed in that regards and if anything business
from those countries has actually improved as they are facing the same challenges
when it comes to importing from Europe as us
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No, they aren’t.
Nothing changed in Europe’s (or EU in case you’re confusing the two) export rules
and nothing changed in US, Canadian, etc., import rules.
What changed for UK buyers is that they now pay UK VAT. And US, Canadian, etc.,
buyers certainly don’t pay UK VAT when they import from Europe or EU. So I don’t
get what new challenges US, Canadian, etc., buyers face when they buy from EU
or Europe.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 09:35 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, infinibrix writes:
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such as USA, Canada, Australia etc... and would recomend for others
to do the same as nothing has changed in that regards and if anything business
from those countries has actually improved as they are facing the same challenges
when it comes to importing from Europe as us
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No, they aren’t.
Nothing changed in Europe’s (or EU in case you’re confusing the two) export rules
and nothing changed in US, Canadian, etc., import rules.
What changed for UK buyers is that they now pay UK VAT. And US, Canadian, etc.,
buyers certainly don’t pay UK VAT when they import from Europe or EU. So I don’t
get what new challenges US, Canadian, etc., buyers face when they buy from EU
or Europe.
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With the OP being a UK seller the crucial point I was making was to recommend
continuing to ship to non EU countries rather than ruling out all overseas transactions
altogether. I may not have worded it well but business from places like USA has
increased for me and those in the USA I beleive still have to pay their own form
of duties be that whether buying from UK or Europe? either which way it makes
little difference to me and does not affect my reasoning behind why I continue
to sell to non EU countries
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 09:44 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, infinibrix writes:
| | I may not have worded it well but business from places like USA has
increased for me and those in the USA I beleive still have to pay their own form
of duties be that whether buying from UK or Europe? either which way it makes
little difference to me and does not affect my reasoning behind why I continue
to sell to non EU countries
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The US doesn't charge duties on toys etc. so once BL has collected the sales
tax there are no additional fees.
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 10:40 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 32 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, infinibrix writes:
| | In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Selling, infinibrix writes:
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such as USA, Canada, Australia etc... and would recomend for others
to do the same as nothing has changed in that regards and if anything business
from those countries has actually improved as they are facing the same challenges
when it comes to importing from Europe as us
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No, they aren’t.
Nothing changed in Europe’s (or EU in case you’re confusing the two) export rules
and nothing changed in US, Canadian, etc., import rules.
What changed for UK buyers is that they now pay UK VAT. And US, Canadian, etc.,
buyers certainly don’t pay UK VAT when they import from Europe or EU. So I don’t
get what new challenges US, Canadian, etc., buyers face when they buy from EU
or Europe.
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With the OP being a UK seller the crucial point I was making was to recommend
continuing to ship to non EU countries rather than ruling out all overseas transactions
altogether. I may not have worded it well but business from places like USA has
increased for me and those in the USA I beleive still have to pay their own form
of duties be that whether buying from UK or Europe? either which way it makes
little difference to me and does not affect my reasoning behind why I continue
to sell to non EU countries
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That is in the part that I didn’t quote because it was understandable and relates
to exporting to EU, which I already acknowledged was a bit of a hazard now due
to double-VATing.
What I did not understand, and still do not understand, and can’t agree with,
is what I quoted, which is that you’re saying that “they are facing the same
challenges when it comes to importing from Europe as us” is the reason
why “business from those countries has actually improved.”
The new challenges that come when importing from EU (I’ll let the Europeans
not in EU explain the difference between EU and Europe) are only faced by UK
buyers.
As I said, the EU exporting rules didn’t change and the importing rules for the
countries you listed didn’t change either. So, yes, they may have to pay duties
and local taxes, but these are not new and also concern importing from UK (UK
being or not in EU and UK and EU import rules having changed don’t change those
countries’ importing rules).
Therefore I fail to see how that could be a reason for the increase in business
and that’s what I was challenging.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 12:52 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, SylvainLS writes:
| | The new challenges that come when importing from EU (I’ll let the Europeans
not in EU explain the difference between EU and Europe) are only faced by UK
buyers.
As I said, the EU exporting rules didn’t change and the importing rules for the
countries you listed didn’t change either. So, yes, they may have to pay duties
and local taxes, but these are not new and also concern importing from UK (UK
being or not in EU and UK and EU import rules having changed don’t change those
countries’ importing rules).
Therefore I fail to see how that could be a reason for the increase in business
and that’s what I was challenging.
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Okay but like I say the part you’re choosing to pick up on was only a minor remark
anyway which I’ve already accepted wasn’t word so well either which way it won’t
have any bearing on my advice/response to the OP and it may well be that my non
EU business has increased due to other UK sellers ruling out all international
trade completely which judging by many responses here seems quite likely
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 08:29 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 35 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Thanks, I appreciate your reply, everyone so far seems to have taken a similar
approach to the one I was considering.
And as we say “Tight Lines “,best of luck with the fishing, I’ll miss the middle
Severn, it was local and my favourite.
Nothing like it here in Cornwall, mostly small and mainly tidal.
In Selling, infinibrix writes:
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| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
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Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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If it's any consolation I do this for a living and yet even I have not found
the inclination to jump back on the wagon of attempting to sell to Europe again.
The extra complications with regards to VAT paper work and the uncertainty of
potentially ending up with disgruntled buyers is of enough concern to me to hold
off selling to Europe for the time being however I do still sell to a few other
countries such as USA, Canada, Australia etc... and would recomend for others
to do the same as nothing has changed in that regards and if anything business
from those countries has actually improved as they are facing the same challenges
when it comes to importing from Europe as us
I also use very small mail bags and so when it comes to sticking the CN22 labels
I only have the very top third of the label showing on the front of the package
and anything below the address part gets folded to the back of the jiffy bag
and for simplicity I actually just use small stamps for the most part as its
just so much quicker and simpler but of course also riskier when it comes to
potential losses
Oh and any free time not doing this is also spent trying to fit in some fishing!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 09:50 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Thanks, I appreciate your reply, everyone so far seems to have taken a similar
approach to the one I was considering.
And as we say “Tight Lines “,best of luck with the fishing, I’ll miss the middle
Severn, it was local and my favourite.
Nothing like it here in Cornwall, mostly small and mainly tidal.
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Can't beat a bit of river fishing. I'd imagine your old haunt was very
good for its Barbel? Sadly we don't really have many decent Barbel rivers
in my area of Essex but still have some nice rivers with all the usual species
like chub and bream!
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 10:09 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Spot on, the river was full of Barbel at one time but it’s declined badly, not
sure why.
We called it “Barbel bashing”, sounds dreadful but meant catching one after another,
had to rest some days as they wore you out, fight like hell.
I spent much of my teenage years fishing at Lincombe weir, parents had a riverside
bungalow which we used many weekends travelling out from Birmingham.
Sadly they sold it when we moved nearer to the Severn to a house in Kidderminster.
Huge bags of Barbel and occasionally on the right peg, bags of chub and roach,
some nice perch too.
Ran an angling club out of Bewdley for ten years and caught some nice fish, best
barbel of 9lbs 14 1/2 oz, never made the 10lb sadly.
Runners up on a major B.A.A. Club competition near Bridgnorth and winners of
many lesser events, had a few personal victories too.
Those were the days.
In Selling, infinibrix writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Thanks, I appreciate your reply, everyone so far seems to have taken a similar
approach to the one I was considering.
And as we say “Tight Lines “,best of luck with the fishing, I’ll miss the middle
Severn, it was local and my favourite.
Nothing like it here in Cornwall, mostly small and mainly tidal.
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Can't beat a bit of river fishing. I'd imagine your old haunt was very
good for its Barbel? Sadly we don't really have many decent Barbel rivers
in my area of Essex but still have some nice rivers with all the usual species
like chub and bream!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 13:17 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Spot on, the river was full of Barbel at one time but it’s declined badly, not
sure why.
We called it “Barbel bashing”, sounds dreadful but meant catching one after another,
had to rest some days as they wore you out, fight like hell.
I spent much of my teenage years fishing at Lincombe weir, parents had a riverside
bungalow which we used many weekends travelling out from Birmingham.
Sadly they sold it when we moved nearer to the Severn to a house in Kidderminster.
Huge bags of Barbel and occasionally on the right peg, bags of chub and roach,
some nice perch too.
Ran an angling club out of Bewdley for ten years and caught some nice fish, best
barbel of 9lbs 14 1/2 oz, never made the 10lb sadly.
Runners up on a major B.A.A. Club competition near Bridgnorth and winners of
many lesser events, had a few personal victories too.
Those were the days.
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Shame only 1 1/2oz short of the 10lb mark its always the way isn't it. Reminds
me of my annoying 2lb 15oz PB rudd
Still a nicer Barbel than I've ever had as I've only had a few up to
about 4lb so one day when I find the time I will need to travel further afield
as there is just not enough good Barbel opportunities round my way
The riverside Bungalow sounds like a dream!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 13:43 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Not had a Rudd anywhere near that, nice fish.
Certainly try the middle Severn if you get the chance, many barbel above 4lb,
try areas around Bridgnorth, Quat, Quatford, Knowle sands.
The riverside bungalow was the highlight of my teenage years, my father, myself
and brothers would fish solid for weeks from early morning into the night.
Best bait at the weir back in my teenage years was luncheon meat but things have
changed, I think I took that large barbel on hemp and casters, feeder fishing,
now it’s all fancy methods and wonder baits.
In Selling, infinibrix writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Spot on, the river was full of Barbel at one time but it’s declined badly, not
sure why.
We called it “Barbel bashing”, sounds dreadful but meant catching one after another,
had to rest some days as they wore you out, fight like hell.
I spent much of my teenage years fishing at Lincombe weir, parents had a riverside
bungalow which we used many weekends travelling out from Birmingham.
Sadly they sold it when we moved nearer to the Severn to a house in Kidderminster.
Huge bags of Barbel and occasionally on the right peg, bags of chub and roach,
some nice perch too.
Ran an angling club out of Bewdley for ten years and caught some nice fish, best
barbel of 9lbs 14 1/2 oz, never made the 10lb sadly.
Runners up on a major B.A.A. Club competition near Bridgnorth and winners of
many lesser events, had a few personal victories too.
Those were the days.
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Shame only 1 1/2oz short of the 10lb mark its always the way isn't it. Reminds
me of my annoying 2lb 15oz PB rudd
Still a nicer Barbel than I've ever had as I've only had a few up to
about 4lb so one day when I find the time I will need to travel further afield
as there is just not enough good Barbel opportunities round my way
The riverside Bungalow sounds like a dream!
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 19:15 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 48 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Not had a Rudd anywhere near that, nice fish.
Certainly try the middle Severn if you get the chance, many barbel above 4lb,
try areas around Bridgnorth, Quat, Quatford, Knowle sands.
The riverside bungalow was the highlight of my teenage years, my father, myself
and brothers would fish solid for weeks from early morning into the night.
Best bait at the weir back in my teenage years was luncheon meat but things have
changed, I think I took that large barbel on hemp and casters, feeder fishing,
now it’s all fancy methods and wonder baits.
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Thanks for the info but yes you still can't beat using those same good old
simple classic baits as hemp, casters, maggots, worms, bread, meat and corn pretty
much still always remain a good part of my arsenal today
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| | | | | Author: | calsbricks | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 08:00 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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HI Stuart - glad to hear you are settling in. When the pandemic started we decided
to stop selling outside the Uk (just too many issues and, of course we will not
sign up to onsite payments with the current Paypal/Stripe terms). That kept us
out of the US other than the few states where there is no sales tax. Europe we
still sell into Switzerland and ouside of there we still do a few sales to Canada
and Australia. It keeps the store ticking over whilst we consider the future.
Overall only 8% of our total sales came from outside the UK any way (too high
postage costs ).
So whatever decision you make we are sure it will work out for you,
Good luck with it
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 08:32 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| Cheers, I’ll make it work, need to adjust and adapt.
Looks like some overseas sales will work for me.
In Selling, calsbricks writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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HI Stuart - glad to hear you are settling in. When the pandemic started we decided
to stop selling outside the Uk (just too many issues and, of course we will not
sign up to onsite payments with the current Paypal/Stripe terms). That kept us
out of the US other than the few states where there is no sales tax. Europe we
still sell into Switzerland and ouside of there we still do a few sales to Canada
and Australia. It keeps the store ticking over whilst we consider the future.
Overall only 8% of our total sales came from outside the UK any way (too high
postage costs ).
So whatever decision you make we are sure it will work out for you,
Good luck with it
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| | | | | Author: | Rob_and_Shelagh | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 08:49 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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Hi Stuart,
We can't move to Cornwall but we spent 3 weeks down there last summer, will
be 5 weeks this year hopefully.... kind of slowly retiring!
We stopped shipping overseas nearly 2 years ago due to problems with logistics
first Brexit and then Covid. Not so much the paperwork, more trying to avoid
delays and customer service problems. Review of that decision is still pending
but we may have to implement revised shipping fees to cover increased costs if/when
we reintroduce overseas as we don't want to increase prices overall to cover
those overheads affecting our UK customers (which have always been the majority
of our business). We certainly would introduce a higher minimum order value for
overseas, maybe high enough to justify tracked shipping.
Anyway, good luck for 2022 whatever you decide.
Robert
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| | | | | | | Author: | Stuart9 | | Posted: | Jan 4, 2022 09:54 | | Subject: | Re: Switching to UK sales only for UK stores | | Viewed: | 36 times | | Topic: | Selling | |
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| That’s how we started, one week, two weeks and so on, before we knew it we were
driving here and back on weekends, about 460 mile round trip for a weekend plus
mileage around Cornwall.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated.
Enjoy your trips, we’re going to make the most of it as soon as time permits,
still settling in and adjusting at present.
In Selling, Rob_and_Shelagh writes:
| | In Selling, Stuart9 writes:
| | Anyone here switched to UK sales only in the recent past and are UK based ( obviously
)
Really don’t see me selling overseas anymore due to all the red tape and need
to produce paperwork that appears to fall foul of or being ignored by officials.
Could barely fit a CN22 to some small packages, now it seems you need to attach
much more for customs, I could be wrong.
No way do I want to get into arguing with vat officials or others because I missed
something or something has changed.
Anyone think I’m being shortsighted or over reacting, fire away, I’m happy to
reconsider.
My best sales have been overseas so I will miss out, I know that, might make
exceptions for large orders, who knows.
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Hi Stuart,
We can't move to Cornwall but we spent 3 weeks down there last summer, will
be 5 weeks this year hopefully.... kind of slowly retiring!
We stopped shipping overseas nearly 2 years ago due to problems with logistics
first Brexit and then Covid. Not so much the paperwork, more trying to avoid
delays and customer service problems. Review of that decision is still pending
but we may have to implement revised shipping fees to cover increased costs if/when
we reintroduce overseas as we don't want to increase prices overall to cover
those overheads affecting our UK customers (which have always been the majority
of our business). We certainly would introduce a higher minimum order value for
overseas, maybe high enough to justify tracked shipping.
Anyway, good luck for 2022 whatever you decide.
Robert
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