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| | | Author: | mgibarian  | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 08:52 | | Subject: | Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 180 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | | Status: | Open | | Vote: | [Yes|No] | |
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| As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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| | | | | Author: | Leftoverbricks | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 09:07 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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Nice idea, but I'm afraid this will cause sellers to re-evaluate their rare
parts (perhaps even those that they may not be aware of) and raise their prises
accordingly.
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| | | | | | | Author: | mgibarian | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 10:07 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 45 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Leftoverbricks writes:
| | In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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Nice idea, but I'm afraid this will cause sellers to re-evaluate their rare
parts (perhaps even those that they may not be aware of) and raise their prises
accordingly.
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True that, I'd be scared of that as well... I guess I'll have to keep
checking manually 
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| | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 09:45 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 55 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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Haven't heard this one before, I like it. And it should be technically possible,
too (sort by number of listings). I can see how it's useful when you happen
to be shopping somewhere and want to make sure there's anything special you
shouldn't miss out on because otherwise there's a fat chance you would
have to come back to that same shop, and pay shipping again.
As with other suggestions, I don't think it will ever happen, but it would
have been a neat feature.
It could increase prices though, as sellers will be more easily cherry picked
and want to counteract this. Basically demand increases, and so price does too.
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| | | | | | | Author: | mgibarian | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 10:10 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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Haven't heard this one before, I like it. And it should be technically possible,
too (sort by number of listings). I can see how it's useful when you happen
to be shopping somewhere and want to make sure there's anything special you
shouldn't miss out on because otherwise there's a fat chance you would
have to come back to that same shop, and pay shipping again.
As with other suggestions, I don't think it will ever happen, but it would
have been a neat feature.
It could increase prices though, as sellers will be more easily cherry picked
and want to counteract this. Basically demand increases, and so price does too.
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So true! One the one hand, more transparent rarity indication would be fair to
both sides, but on the other hand I appreciate being able to find the hidden
gems of a shop...
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| | | | | Author: | hpoort | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 11:57 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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Although this would be useful information (but not as useful as the store's
price in relation to the average price on Bricklink!), your buying strategy would
not work due to a flaw in the logic: once you start buying according to this
scheme, the chance you already have this part is no longer distributed the same
as the availability of this part on Bricklink.
Also: how to handle the difference in rare by lots and rare by quantity? There
are parts that there are thousands available at only a few sellers, and there
are parts available at hundreds of sellers, but each has only one or two. And
because of buying these kind of parts before - my own collection does not reflect
the rarity of Bricklink.
Examples:
5 sellers, 1221 parts available
116 sellers, 282 parts available
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| | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 12:15 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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Although this would be useful information (but not as useful as the store's
price in relation to the average price on Bricklink!), your buying strategy would
not work due to a flaw in the logic: once you start buying according to this
scheme, the chance you already have this part is no longer distributed the same
as the availability of this part on Bricklink.
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I was just thinking the same thing. It is even worse because as soon as you buy
something then it immediately becomes even rarer on BL, so its rarity score would
go up, and you are even more likely to want to buy it again than before you bought
it if you are not keeping records of what you own and relying only on the distribution
of those available on BL to inform you whether you should buy it.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 13:15 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 54 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, hpoort writes:
| | In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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Although this would be useful information (but not as useful as the store's
price in relation to the average price on Bricklink!),
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that would kill bricklink, which is not useful to anyone 
| | your buying strategy would
not work due to a flaw in the logic: once you start buying according to this
scheme, the chance you already have this part is no longer distributed the same
as the availability of this part on Bricklink.
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Why would that matter? It's simply a feature that brings up parts that do
not have many sellers. So that if you're interested in that part, then that
particular shop is probably worth buying it at because there are not many opportunities.
The further down the list, the more opportunity to buy it sometime in the future
from some other seller.
| | Also: how to handle the difference in rare by lots and rare by quantity?
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IMO it should just look at the number of listings, regardless of quantity. If
a part has only one seller, it means that's my only opportunity to get it,
no matter how many they have.
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 14:01 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 47 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
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IMO it should just look at the number of listings, regardless of quantity. If
a part has only one seller, it means that's my only opportunity to get it,
no matter how many they have.
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There’s the case of new parts / new colours too: at first, not many sellers have
them. Especially before the sets they are in have been released.
Sometimes, they are even limited to one or two sellers and those may have a good
quantity of them (hundreds or thousands).
Just wait a couple of months and the availability is multiplied and the price
“divided.”
And it may be “your only opportunity to get it now.”
So, who’ll propose to also take the production date into account?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 14:34 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, SylvainLS writes:
| | In Suggestions, Teup writes:
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IMO it should just look at the number of listings, regardless of quantity. If
a part has only one seller, it means that's my only opportunity to get it,
no matter how many they have.
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There’s the case of new parts / new colours too: at first, not many sellers have
them. Especially before the sets they are in have been released.
Sometimes, they are even limited to one or two sellers and those may have a good
quantity of them (hundreds or thousands).
Just wait a couple of months and the availability is multiplied and the price
“divided.”
And it may be “your only opportunity to get it now.”
So, who’ll propose to also take the production date into account?
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Well yes, it shouldn't be some kind of official "rarity" rating, based on
magic (ie. a parameter hotchpotch), because of the problems you outline. But
a simple ranking based on how many sellers currently have it (not number of listings
- as yorbricks points out, one seller can list it multiple times). That way it
would be a transparent sorting order not based on shaky concepts like "rarity".
It could be called "sort items by number of sellers".
Like with all tools, it's about knowing when and where to use it. Although
I rarely buy anymore, I can definitely see myself using that when I'm almost
done shopping and want to check if there's something I don't want to
miss in that store.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Llewyn | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 16:22 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 40 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, Teup writes:
| | Well yes, it shouldn't be some kind of official "rarity" rating, based on
magic (ie. a parameter hotchpotch), because of the problems you outline. But
a simple ranking based on how many sellers currently have it (not number of listings
- as yorbricks points out, one seller can list it multiple times). That way it
would be a transparent sorting order not based on shaky concepts like "rarity".
It could be called "sort items by number of sellers".
Like with all tools, it's about knowing when and where to use it. Although
I rarely buy anymore, I can definitely see myself using that when I'm almost
done shopping and want to check if there's something I don't want to
miss in that store.
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I could certainly find this useful, in the simple format you suggest. I tend
to have wanted lists for 3-6 builds on the go at once - there will be one or
two I'm actively collecting parts for, but while putting an order together
I'll scan the wanted lists for the others. If I notice that a future build
needs parts I've already put in my basket I may add them if either the current
or future lot is small.
I also try to check for unusual parts on those lists, eg a part or print I don't
remember seeing in my own sets, and add them while they're easily available
- these are the kind of parts I anticipate might need a dedicated order in future
if I miss them. However it's easy to miss genuinely hard-to-find parts while
looking for the ones I think might be. Many times I've moved on to a new
build and realised certain parts are only available from sellers I've already
bought from recently.
It's probably a pretty niche benefit for most people though!
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | yorbrick | | Posted: | Nov 29, 2021 14:09 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 43 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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IMO it should just look at the number of listings, regardless of quantity. If
a part has only one seller, it means that's my only opportunity to get it,
no matter how many they have.
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The number of listings is not necessarily equal to the number of sellers though.
There might be 20 listings but still only one seller.
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| | | | | Author: | i_r_on | | Posted: | Nov 30, 2021 16:49 | | Subject: | Re: Parts sorted by rarity | | Viewed: | 30 times | | Topic: | Suggestions | |
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| In Suggestions, mgibarian writes:
| | As a customer, I would appreciate a new sorting option in every store's part
view called "by rarity". Based on the number of each item's availability
worldwide (e.g. by adding up all the items available worldwide of the respective
element in comparison to the average availability of all items), there could
be an indicator of how rare each item is that you are looking at.
Since my collection of parts has grown over the years, this option would help
me rummaging the shops for rare items or items that I likely do not yet own.
On the other hand, items with low rarity indication would tell me that I likely
own them already.
This could also help sellers to identify the rarity of each item they add to
their shop. There may already be ways to figure that out - not sure as I am not
a seller.
What do you think?
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1. Create a rare part list outside of Bricklink
2. Import that list into a wanted list in Bricklink
3. Direct the wanted list to a shop or shops
People are doing like this I guess creating that wanted list themselves though...
With enough data scraped from Bricklink one can algorithmically determine the
list though.
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