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| | | Author: | infinibrix  | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 08:50 | | Subject: | Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 207 times | | Topic: | Catalog | | Status: | Open | |
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| I know people are gonna say it comes down to people contributing but at this
stage should'nt Lego themselves be having a more active role in providing
the required catalog entries and less reliant on a handful of contributors. Even
popular Star Wars sets from way back in June are still awaiting minifig entries?:-
Meanwhile Brickowl added entries for these minifigures months ago and so if you
can't buy or sell the parts here you have to do so elsewhere thereby falling
into the hands of the main competitor site!
Surely Bricklink (the now official Lego marketplace) should'nt be trailing
behind Brickowl is this regards?
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| | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 09:51 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 61 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | I know people are gonna say it comes down to people contributing but at this
stage should'nt Lego themselves be having a more active role in providing
the required catalog entries and less reliant on a handful of contributors. Even
popular Star Wars sets from way back in June are still awaiting minifig entries?:-
Meanwhile Brickowl added entries for these minifigures months ago and so if you
can't buy or sell the parts here you have to do so elsewhere thereby falling
into the hands of the main competitor site!
Surely Bricklink (the now official Lego marketplace) should'nt be trailing
behind Brickowl is this regards?
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Those are some gorgeous minifigs! If I had these sets, I would surely work on
them, but Star Wars has fallen out of popularity around my house. 
I just had a peek over on Brickowl and while all those parts are listed, their
only descriptors are character name and set number. While you can part out a
set and sell it that way, it would be very difficult to try and look up a loose
part! I think the process of documenting and describing parts here on BrickLink
creates a far superior catalog. (Which is kinda what we are known for in my opinion.)
It is sad that our resident Star Wars guru is not active. He did the lion's
share of all Star Wars stuff for a long time and left a huge void. Star Wars
figs are some of the most complicated to work on requiring a knowledge of both
the genre and the existing catalog here on BrickLink. There's no easy way
to fill in that kind of expertise.
Adding all those parts as just a generic number (like LEGO) or even a specific
character name (like Brickowl) would create an infinite amount of problems in
our catalog.
I am happy to help anyone who has these parts in hand and wants to give it a
go, by the way.
Jen
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| | | | | Author: | popsicle | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 11:32 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 191 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| Seems reasonable to me. I've shared the same thoughts (minus any concern
of competition, that is) that TLG should invest more towards this effort. Investment
in some manner, either personnel that will facilitate correct set-inventory uploads
in a timely manner, or at least hand over the needed proprietary info to folks
here (paid or volunteers) ahead of the set's global-availability. To be uploaded
and made ready for sales sooner rather than later, on what is a LEGO owned site.
Not to mention, any benefits the simple knowledge of it being "the official"
inventory, would bring to the site more broadly.
-popsicle
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | I know people are gonna say it comes down to people contributing but at this
stage should'nt Lego themselves be having a more active role in providing
the required catalog entries and less reliant on a handful of contributors. Even
popular Star Wars sets from way back in June are still awaiting minifig entries?:-
Meanwhile Brickowl added entries for these minifigures months ago and so if you
can't buy or sell the parts here you have to do so elsewhere thereby falling
into the hands of the main competitor site!
Surely Bricklink (the now official Lego marketplace) should'nt be trailing
behind Brickowl is this regards?
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| | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 11:54 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 58 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, popsicle writes:
| | Seems reasonable to me. I've shared the same thoughts (minus any concern
of competition, that is) that TLG should invest more towards this effort. Investment
in some manner, either personnel that will facilitate correct set-inventory uploads
in a timely manner, or at least hand over the needed proprietary info to folks
here (paid or volunteers) ahead of the set's global-availability. To be uploaded
and made ready for sales sooner rather than later, on what is a LEGO owned site.
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We usually have most of the info needed for an inventory on the day of release.
(Instructions, inventory list, part renders) So, info is not what's lacking
here. It's confirming and cataloging that info that takes time and effort.
Considering how blame for inventory mishaps gets spread around here, I would
hate to see the results of using just the LEGO data without comparing it to an
actual set. LEGO doesn't catalog their stuff, they just produce it. Creating
actual photos of printed parts is really important too.
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Not to mention, any benefits the simple knowledge of it being "the official"
inventory, would bring to the site more broadly.
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At this point, our catalog is better than the 'official' info LEGO provides,
so I am not too sure what we could do better. Despite being LEGO-owned, this
site is still run by BrickLink, which clearly doesn't have the staff or budget
or imperative or whatever to do more than they already do.
To have everything cataloged and sale-ready on the day of release, I would estimate
they would need 2-3 full-time people. That's a lot of $$$
Sellers pay really low fees to work on this platform, I don't think it's
unreasonable for them to also participate in the catalog process for their own
direct benefit. Everyone can add parts and inventories to the catalog if they
want to. No, it's not too easy to learn how, but it's not that hard either.
My two cents,
Jen
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-popsicle
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | I know people are gonna say it comes down to people contributing but at this
stage should'nt Lego themselves be having a more active role in providing
the required catalog entries and less reliant on a handful of contributors. Even
popular Star Wars sets from way back in June are still awaiting minifig entries?:-
Meanwhile Brickowl added entries for these minifigures months ago and so if you
can't buy or sell the parts here you have to do so elsewhere thereby falling
into the hands of the main competitor site!
Surely Bricklink (the now official Lego marketplace) should'nt be trailing
behind Brickowl is this regards?
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 12:13 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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We usually have most of the info needed for an inventory on the day of release.
(Instructions, inventory list, part renders) So, info is not what's lacking
here. It's confirming and cataloging that info that takes time and effort.
Considering how blame for inventory mishaps gets spread around here, I would
hate to see the results of using just the LEGO data without comparing it to an
actual set. LEGO doesn't catalog their stuff, they just produce it.
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To see how such a catalogue would look, go to Brickset… and check the inventory
doesn’t come from BrickLink or Rebrickable
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To have everything cataloged and sale-ready on the day of release, I would estimate
they would need 2-3 full-time people. That's a lot of $$$ […]
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And BL would need to have the sets before the release, because what’s inventoried
on BL is the content of the boxes. That could work if LEGO provides them… but
reviewers, to whom LEGO sends sets before release to prepare their reviews, sometimes
tell us their copies are different….
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 12:22 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 42 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, SylvainLS writes:
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And BL would need to have the sets before the release, because what’s inventoried
on BL is the content of the boxes. That could work if LEGO provides them… but
reviewers, to whom LEGO sends sets before release to prepare their reviews, sometimes
tell us their copies are different….
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Fascinating! That would certainly be a big problem for accuracy.
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | peregrinator | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 12:33 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | We usually have most of the info needed for an inventory on the day of release.
(Instructions, inventory list, part renders) So, info is not what's lacking
here. It's confirming and cataloging that info that takes time and effort.
Considering how blame for inventory mishaps gets spread around here, I would
hate to see the results of using just the LEGO data without comparing it to an
actual set. LEGO doesn't catalog their stuff, they just produce it. Creating
actual photos of printed parts is really important too.
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I wonder whether the PCCs of the parts are still available to the person doing
the minifig inventory once the set inventory is approved? It might behoove the
person inventorying the set to save that information and start minifig inventories
from it
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | jennnifer | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 16:33 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 52 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, peregrinator writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
| | We usually have most of the info needed for an inventory on the day of release.
(Instructions, inventory list, part renders) So, info is not what's lacking
here. It's confirming and cataloging that info that takes time and effort.
Considering how blame for inventory mishaps gets spread around here, I would
hate to see the results of using just the LEGO data without comparing it to an
actual set. LEGO doesn't catalog their stuff, they just produce it. Creating
actual photos of printed parts is really important too.
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I wonder whether the PCCs of the parts are still available to the person doing
the minifig inventory once the set inventory is approved? It might behoove the
person inventorying the set to save that information and start minifig inventories
from it
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The PCC's are also in the printed instructions for most sets so I don't
see that this is necessary. Also, if the PCC's popped up when the inventory
was first uploaded, then the same data is likely still sitting on Brickset.
Jen
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 18:32 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 59 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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To have everything cataloged and sale-ready on the day of release, I would estimate
they would need 2-3 full-time people. That's a lot of $$$
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You make it sound like its too much to ask and yet its peanut money to an organisation
like Lego? I would have thought that this should be a basic requirement of the
site at this stage?
| | Sellers pay really low fees to work on this platform, I don't think it's
unreasonable for them to also participate in the catalog process for their own
direct benefit.
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But it isn't for the sellers own direct benefit? Sellers primarily serve
Bricklink and its community which means for every seller that benefits countless
buyers also benefit. If buyers can't purchase what they need they either
go without or purchase elsewhere?
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | axaday | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 19:14 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 50 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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To have everything cataloged and sale-ready on the day of release, I would estimate
they would need 2-3 full-time people. That's a lot of $$$
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You make it sound like its too much to ask and yet its peanut money to an organisation
like Lego?
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Nobody is stopping them.
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Author: | macebobo | | Posted: | Nov 20, 2021 20:36 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 46 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, axaday writes:
| | In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | In Catalog, jennnifer writes:
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To have everything cataloged and sale-ready on the day of release, I would estimate
they would need 2-3 full-time people. That's a lot of $$$
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You make it sound like its too much to ask and yet its peanut money to an organisation
like Lego?
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Nobody is stopping them.
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Well, there is that one accountant in Billund who keeps saying it doesn't
pencil out.
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| | | | | Author: | grimsbricksuk | | Posted: | Nov 27, 2021 08:47 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 38 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| The minifig entries for the sets you’re referring to have always been available
since the sets launched back in June, it’s just that they’re not yet inventoried
& linked to the relevant sets.
You can still list the minifigs manually.
In Catalog, infinibrix writes:
| | I know people are gonna say it comes down to people contributing but at this
stage should'nt Lego themselves be having a more active role in providing
the required catalog entries and less reliant on a handful of contributors. Even
popular Star Wars sets from way back in June are still awaiting minifig entries?:-
Meanwhile Brickowl added entries for these minifigures months ago and so if you
can't buy or sell the parts here you have to do so elsewhere thereby falling
into the hands of the main competitor site!
Surely Bricklink (the now official Lego marketplace) should'nt be trailing
behind Brickowl is this regards?
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| | | | | | | Author: | infinibrix | | Posted: | Nov 27, 2021 09:50 | | Subject: | Re: Minifig Entries - How long is too long? | | Viewed: | 49 times | | Topic: | Catalog | |
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| In Catalog, grimsbricksuk writes:
| | The minifig entries for the sets you’re referring to have always been available
since the sets launched back in June, it’s just that they’re not yet inventoried
& linked to the relevant sets.
You can still list the minifigs manually.
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Yes but buyers can't buy the individual minifigure parts that they may want
and I myself can not list them as for some of these minifigs I only have the
heads!
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