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| | | Author: | Teup  | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 13:50 | | Subject: | Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 178 times | | Topic: | General | |
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As a kid staring at the 1997 catalog, I always wondered...
What even is this?!
Not sure if this BURPfest is supposed to be a castle (it's completely open
on one side) or some kind of mountain ambush, but anyway... what is that black
thing sticking out behind it (on the catalog image)?
And I always wondered: Is the witch with the bat knights or against
them? In my catalog they seem to have a rivalry but it seems the knights are..
guarding this thing?
And what's that dark forest guy doing in the midst of this? (not that we
can even know it's a dark forest guy unless you live in the US, since that's
the only place where the dark forest sets were released - why even?). Is he guarding
this thing, or is he getting crushed under a rock? That's kind of a difference
you know!
And why is there a dragon flying around aimlessly? Or rather: Why does the witch
have a... helicopter? I mean, if there's literally a dragon right there to
fly around on...
And just the scene in general on the box art.. all figures are just running random
directions, someone shoots an arrow at a rock, everyone is too busy to even pay
attention to the scary skeleton. As a kid I had no idea what I was looking at!
I wonder if LEGO even knew what they were doing here? Maybe the worst castle
set ever made? Seems to me that 1997 is the year that things started to become
weird...
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| | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 14:11 | | Subject: | Re: Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 72 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Teup writes:
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As a kid staring at the 1997 catalog, I always wondered...
What even is this?!
Not sure if this BURPfest
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More barf than fest?
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on one side) or some kind of mountain ambush, but anyway... what is that black
thing sticking out behind it (on the catalog image)?
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An error from the graphist?
As far as I can see in the instructions, it’s not in the built set….
| | And I always wondered: Is the witch with the bat knights or against
them? In my catalog they seem to have a rivalry but it seems the knights are..
guarding this thing?
And what's that dark forest guy doing in the midst of this? (not that we
can even know it's a dark forest guy unless you live in the US, since that's
the only place where the dark forest sets were released - why even?). Is he guarding
this thing, or is he getting crushed under a rock? That's kind of a difference
you know!
And why is there a dragon flying around aimlessly? Or rather: Why does the witch
have a... helicopter? I mean, if there's literally a dragon right there to
fly around on...
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It’s a well known fact: dragons can’t abide witches, so there’s no way the dragon
will let the witch ride it.
| | And just the scene in general on the box art.. all figures are just running random
directions, someone shoots an arrow at a rock, everyone is too busy to even pay
attention to the scary skeleton. As a kid I had no idea what I was looking at!
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Looks like either it’s a Battle Royale: each for their own, or everybody is fleeing
the united attack from the witch and her dragon (yeah, that’s a contradiction
to what I said abode  ).
The dragon seems to be trying to burn the chain that maintains the hanging rock.
The witch is swooping down to throw spells and curses.
And the skeletton is unhappy of having been awaken by all this mess.
So, maybe the “normal” humans (the black forest guy being a local guide) tried
to loot the witch’s lair while she was away but she was not far enough or not
for long enough?
| | I wonder if LEGO even knew what they were doing here? Maybe the worst castle
set ever made? Seems to me that 1997 is the year that things started to become
weird...
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Nah, to me, LEGO jumped the BURP sharks around 1990… justifying my entering in
my dark ages 
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 15:35 | | Subject: | Re: Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 67 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Teup writes:
| | what is that black
thing sticking out behind it (on the catalog image)?
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An error from the graphist?
As far as I can see in the instructions, it’s not in the built set….
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Yeah seems so, I'm still curious what it could be!
| | | | And just the scene in general on the box art.. all figures are just running random
directions, someone shoots an arrow at a rock, everyone is too busy to even pay
attention to the scary skeleton. As a kid I had no idea what I was looking at!
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Looks like either it’s a Battle Royale: each for their own, or everybody is fleeing
the united attack from the witch and her dragon (yeah, that’s a contradiction
to what I said abode ).
The dragon seems to be trying to burn the chain that maintains the hanging rock.
The witch is swooping down to throw spells and curses.
And the skeletton is unhappy of having been awaken by all this mess.
So, maybe the “normal” humans (the black forest guy being a local guide) tried
to loot the witch’s lair while she was away but she was not far enough or not
for long enough?
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 Okay, I just read some info about this faction and seems the witch belongs
with the rest of the gang - ok, so the dark forest guy is the intruder here,
and the rest defends the "castle" - it makes slightly more sense now In the
Dutch catalog, the knights are portrayed as the enemies of the witch, and I always
assumed the dark forest guy was her bodyguard or slave or something. Bit of a
weird battle: a witch in a helicopter and a sidekick without armor who appears
out of a rock, surrounded by an army...
| | | | I wonder if LEGO even knew what they were doing here? Maybe the worst castle
set ever made? Seems to me that 1997 is the year that things started to become
weird...
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Nah, to me, LEGO jumped the BURP sharks around 1990… justifying my entering in
my dark ages
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Hey, BURPs came in 1992, and even that year it was fine.. And in 1993... well...
a dragon's den has to be a dragon's den...
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| | | | | | | | | Author: | SylvainLS | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 17:10 | | Subject: | Re: Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 39 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Teup writes:
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Okay, I just read some info about this faction and seems the witch belongs
with the rest of the gang - ok, so the dark forest guy is the intruder here,
and the rest defends the "castle" - it makes slightly more sense now In the
Dutch catalog, the knights are portrayed as the enemies of the witch, and I always
assumed the dark forest guy was her bodyguard or slave or something. Bit of a
weird battle: a witch in a helicopter and a sidekick without armor who appears
out of a rock, surrounded by an army...
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I’ve never seen backstories in the French catalogues I had.
I had only access to this type of catalogues:
I just dug that one out (the last I got) and there’s no story in it. The only
thing there’s in there is the mention of “white space” and “black space” (litterally!)
for the new Space Police sets.
Was there more in yours?
Anyway, even if there had been, I think I’d just have taken them as commercial
blah: my LEGO, my stories
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| | Nah, to me, LEGO jumped the BURP sharks around 1990… justifying my entering in
my dark ages
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Hey, BURPs came in 1992, and even that year it was fine.. And in 1993... well...
a dragon's den has to be a dragon's den...
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I meant more BigPieces than actual BURPs: raised baseplates, space panels (okay,
those were somewhat cool… or would have been if sets weren’t only made of
two big panels and three antennas), and already castle panels a few years before,
or also the stupid and ugly gimmicks like Light & Sound (a tiny blinking light,
a tweeter and a battery box big as a house, really?).
, what’s that? A flatiron? Its underside is not smooth enough!
Also, I don’t know if it was all France or just me in my small town but LEGO
were (expensive, but that’s a given,) hard to find and always late, at least
a year late. The time I knew about Futuron, it was already over.
Anyway, lots of good reasons to dump LEGO back then 
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| | | | | | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 17:40 | | Subject: | Re: Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 41 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, SylvainLS writes:
| | In General, Teup writes:
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Okay, I just read some info about this faction and seems the witch belongs
with the rest of the gang - ok, so the dark forest guy is the intruder here,
and the rest defends the "castle" - it makes slightly more sense now In the
Dutch catalog, the knights are portrayed as the enemies of the witch, and I always
assumed the dark forest guy was her bodyguard or slave or something. Bit of a
weird battle: a witch in a helicopter and a sidekick without armor who appears
out of a rock, surrounded by an army...
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I’ve never seen backstories in the French catalogues I had.
I had only access to this type of catalogues:
I just dug that one out (the last I got) and there’s no story in it. The only
thing there’s in there is the mention of “white space” and “black space” (litterally!)
for the new Space Police sets.
Was there more in yours?
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Ah, '89 is when the stories kicked in I guess In '88 Blacktron was
still just "space sets but now in black". But in '89 it was decided they
had to be bad guys (Blacktron lives didn't matter anymore). Yes, we always
had some descriptions in them, like about the motives of the pirate captain and
the governor, space police, that M:tron is a rescue and repair faction (in spite
of what American AFOLs think!! ), things like that.. hmm, it doesn't say
much in the 1997 one, but it has a maze with a description saying the Bat Lord
is trying to steal the witch's treasure in the cave. And they appear kind
of pitted against each other in the pictures (except for the main castle where
she has a room with magical things, but it could be the Bat Lord's room that
she's just raiding )
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Anyway, even if there had been, I think I’d just have taken them as commercial
blah: my LEGO, my stories
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I didn't care about official sets at all, but I did insist my MOCs be lore-correct
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| | Nah, to me, LEGO jumped the BURP sharks around 1990… justifying my entering in
my dark ages
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Hey, BURPs came in 1992, and even that year it was fine.. And in 1993... well...
a dragon's den has to be a dragon's den...
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I meant more BigPieces than actual BURPs: raised baseplates, space panels (okay,
those were somewhat cool… or would have been if sets weren’t only made of
two big panels and three antennas), and already castle panels a few years before,
or also the stupid and ugly gimmicks like Light & Sound (a tiny blinking light,
a tweeter and a battery box big as a house, really?).
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Ohhh I LOVE raised baseplates They really spark imagination and a different
kind of building approach - flat is just flat, empty canvas, you quickly end
up with boring regular floor layers like an apartment building... when you build
on a raised baseplate you always get something unpredictable Especially if
you connect them to flat baseplates or other raised baseplates!
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, what’s that? A flatiron? Its underside is not smooth enough!
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I got that one for christmas, so I don't care what you say about it! And
I don't care it comes with 5 windscreens
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Also, I don’t know if it was all France or just me in my small town but LEGO
were (expensive, but that’s a given,) hard to find and always late, at least
a year late. The time I knew about Futuron, it was already over.
Anyway, lots of good reasons to dump LEGO back then
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Whoa, here it was right on time and what I liked a lot was that it remained in
stores for several years. I think I bought the big M:tron wagon like 4 or 5 years
after it was released (after drooling over it since 1990). Same with the Futuron
monorail. I loved how space and castle where just continuing universes, rather
than just new line after new line, or reboot after reboot, with all the good
guys and bad guys baked into the sets. Back then there was something to love
and hold on to, now you just get bombarded with endless numbers of new product
lines every 6 months... which is great for my shop though in terms of stock variation
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| | | | | Author: | runner.caller | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 17:21 | | Subject: | Re: Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 51 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, Teup writes:
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As a kid staring at the 1997 catalog, I always wondered...
What even is this?!
Not sure if this BURPfest is supposed to be a castle (it's completely open
on one side) or some kind of mountain ambush, but anyway... what is that black
thing sticking out behind it (on the catalog image)?
And I always wondered: Is the witch with the bat knights or against
them? In my catalog they seem to have a rivalry but it seems the knights are..
guarding this thing?
And what's that dark forest guy doing in the midst of this? (not that we
can even know it's a dark forest guy unless you live in the US, since that's
the only place where the dark forest sets were released - why even?). Is he guarding
this thing, or is he getting crushed under a rock? That's kind of a difference
you know!
And why is there a dragon flying around aimlessly? Or rather: Why does the witch
have a... helicopter? I mean, if there's literally a dragon right there to
fly around on...
And just the scene in general on the box art.. all figures are just running random
directions, someone shoots an arrow at a rock, everyone is too busy to even pay
attention to the scary skeleton. As a kid I had no idea what I was looking at!
I wonder if LEGO even knew what they were doing here? Maybe the worst castle
set ever made? Seems to me that 1997 is the year that things started to become
weird...
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O.M.G. This is a gold review! Hilarious.
Haha, I actually had this as a child and it was my biggest set until I bought
Amazon Ancient Ruins on clearance.
I liked this set, but you're right it doesn't make any sense.
I also, don't even remember that black thing sticking out behind it.
The forest guy would get trapped in the hollow space between the two LURPS.
I seem to remember some literature billing it as a "secret dungeon" Not sure
how they'd ever lift it off of him though. Maybe tie the chain to the dragon?
Also, the other "jail" felt so lazy with the fence piece thing covering like
half of the opening.
Also, the black posts that the lurps slide in don't make any sense either.
What castle faction took the time to forge those, then chisel a space out up
in the mountains to set those in so that they could slide a rock up and down?
The secret rock dungeon is also a door? Also, are they chilling on grass up there?
Childhood me proceeded to lose the BURPS very early on so I could never rebuild
it until I was about 24, I found them in a duplo bin in storage.
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| | | | | | | Author: | Teup | | Posted: | Nov 5, 2021 17:54 | | Subject: | Re: Can we talk about set 6087 | | Viewed: | 34 times | | Topic: | General | |
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| In General, runner.caller writes:
| | In General, Teup writes:
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As a kid staring at the 1997 catalog, I always wondered...
What even is this?!
Not sure if this BURPfest is supposed to be a castle (it's completely open
on one side) or some kind of mountain ambush, but anyway... what is that black
thing sticking out behind it (on the catalog image)?
And I always wondered: Is the witch with the bat knights or against
them? In my catalog they seem to have a rivalry but it seems the knights are..
guarding this thing?
And what's that dark forest guy doing in the midst of this? (not that we
can even know it's a dark forest guy unless you live in the US, since that's
the only place where the dark forest sets were released - why even?). Is he guarding
this thing, or is he getting crushed under a rock? That's kind of a difference
you know!
And why is there a dragon flying around aimlessly? Or rather: Why does the witch
have a... helicopter? I mean, if there's literally a dragon right there to
fly around on...
And just the scene in general on the box art.. all figures are just running random
directions, someone shoots an arrow at a rock, everyone is too busy to even pay
attention to the scary skeleton. As a kid I had no idea what I was looking at!
I wonder if LEGO even knew what they were doing here? Maybe the worst castle
set ever made? Seems to me that 1997 is the year that things started to become
weird...
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O.M.G. This is a gold review! Hilarious.
Haha, I actually had this as a child and it was my biggest set until I bought
Amazon Ancient Ruins on clearance.
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My first impulse is.. pity.. but I am glad you liked it
| | The forest guy would get trapped in the hollow space between the two LURPS.
I seem to remember some literature billing it as a "secret dungeon" Not sure
how they'd ever lift it off of him though. Maybe tie the chain to the dragon?
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That sounds odd..
"Ha ha, we trapped you in a rock!" "You wish... I'm in a secret dungeon now!
Wow, it's full of gold!"
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Also, the other "jail" felt so lazy with the fence piece thing covering like
half of the opening.
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Yes, and when you close it, you no longer have a fence on that side. I guess
the logic is that when you catch the intruder, you no longer need a fence? Gee,
the deeper I think about this set, the more it becomes a piece of art
| | Also, the black posts that the lurps slide in don't make any sense either.
What castle faction took the time to forge those, then chisel a space out up
in the mountains to set those in so that they could slide a rock up and down?
The secret rock dungeon is also a door? Also, are they chilling on grass up there?
Childhood me proceeded to lose the BURPS very early on so I could never rebuild
it until I was about 24, I found them in a duplo bin in storage.
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Hm yes, without those you don't have much left
I just checked this review, it's hilarious, his confusion/disappointment
is just exactly how I felt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOMh7PnnVrE
(There's also a speechless review on Youtube - I thought it meant the guy
was speechless about it, but it's just literally a review without speech
)
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